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| [09:39:24] | stuartm: | danielk22: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/raw-attachment/ti . . . 19/patch.txt doesn't seem right to me partly because IsRecording() which calls StateIsRecording() returns true if the state is kState_WatchingLiveTV |
| [09:41:01] | stuartm: | also StateIsRecording() seems a little suspicious since it doesn't check for kState_WatchingRecording |
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| [15:00:42] | danielk22: | stuartm: IIRC kState_WatchingRecording is not a state TVRec ever enters so that isn't really an issue. wrt to the patch, yeah I can't imagine IsRecording() ever returning false while pseudoLiveTVRecording is true |
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| [20:46:14] | stuartm: | sphery: sounds like you've got a good argument for dropping the video aspect override setting |
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| [21:01:49] | sphery: | stuartm: hehe, yeah, it's been on my hit list for a while, but I'm still recovering from burns from the last time I removed a setting :) |
| [21:02:12] | sphery: | though it's never needed on a properly configured system, some people use it to cover up the fact that their X is misconfigured\ |
| [21:02:15] | stuartm: | be bold! |
| [21:02:38] | stuartm: | don the fire-proof suit :) |
| [21:02:58] | sphery: | hehe, I'll try to get to it before long... maybe early next year (busy month, here) |
| [21:03:36] | stuartm: | every setting should be seen as an opportunity for the end user to chose the wrong value |
| [21:03:53] | stuartm: | </cynicism> |
| [21:04:08] | sphery: | but, yeah, for one-off broken videos, you wouldn't set the aspect override setting--you'd just use the in-playback aspect override that affects only the current playback (and if you're keeping it long term, you should fix the broken flag that's calling the video the wrong aspect) |
| [21:04:21] | sphery: | definitely--and it's amazing how many do |
| [21:04:26] | stuartm: | or use a playback profile |
| [21:05:38] | stuartm: | I'm still amazed that TVs, even my monitors, offer the option to override the aspect ratio – and it gets mostly mis-used there too |
| [21:08:38] | stuartm: | my mate was showing off his new TV recently, I quickly pointed out that some of the picture seemed to be missing (logos were cropped), turned out he'd inadvertently toggled a fill setting on the TV and hadn't realised he was losing a lot of the picture |
| [21:10:18] | stuartm: | and of course that 1:1 pixel mapping was also being lost, so affecting picture quality, admittedly not that I could really detect that – either my eyes aren't that good, or the scaling was pretty decent |
| [21:19:55] | skd5aner: | I feel obligated to turn off the dumb motion correction on my friend's TV when they walk out of the room |
| [21:20:24] | sphery: | Yeah, I got cable TV installed about a month ago, and the tech came in and set everything up, and had all the DTAs and the DVR set to stretch everything as if it were 4:3 that you wanted to stretch to fill a 4:3 display so it was cutting off top, bottom, and sides of the video and making everyone short and fat |
| [21:20:44] | skd5aner: | The stupid "soap opera effect" is rediculously the worst "feature" in TV's today |
| [21:21:28] | skd5aner: | sphery: I always tell the cable guy to just set the equipment on the table, I'll do the rest |
| [21:22:06] | skd5aner: | although, the last guy was very intrigued with MythTV last time and the HDHR-Prime |
| [21:25:12] | jya: | skd5aner: that made me laugh... That's exactly what I do :) I can't stand the compensation thing either.. that's all I can think about whenever I watch something on it... |
| [21:26:50] | skd5aner: | I did it last week at a family member's house. She had a 60+" LCD that she was bragging about... when she went to go grab some drinks in the kitchen, I immediately picked up the remote and turned the dumb thing off – she didn't say anything the rest of the night and I'm sure she'll never know |
| [21:27:40] | skd5aner: | (to clarify, I turned off the motion enhancement feature on their TV, not the TV itself, if that wasn't obvious) |
| [21:34:09] | jheizer: | A family member's I am going to this weekend always has the stretch/fill settings on their tv all messed up. Drives me bonkers. |
| [21:34:55] | jya: | seems the menu style doesn't survive a reboot. Whenever I set the menu style for the new fancy xbmc theme; after a reboot it always reset to default |
| [21:40:42] | stuartm: | jya: don't have that particular problem here, is the setting getting written to the settings table? |
| [21:43:34] | skd5aner: | jheizer: they have to go the bathroom at some point – fix that thing, sharing is caring |
| [21:44:57] | jheizer: | Haha I do some times. Last time we were there they no longer has HD Sat sevice, just SD 4:3 . So hen they saw black bars on the side they were confused and thought it was broke. |
| [21:45:09] | jheizer: | So I changed it back. Older people. |
| [21:45:29] | skd5aner: | yea |
| [21:45:33] | jheizer: | poor 55" TV. |
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| [22:04:39] | jya: | stuartm: could it be a race condition? the menu style is the one specifically added by a particular theme. Other type of menu theme are properly restored. Just the menu type of a particular theme isnt |
| [22:05:18] | jya: | I thought maybe by the time the menu is loaded; the theme itself hasn't yet. So it thinks that this value doesn't exist yet, and as such go back to default |
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| [22:07:41] | stuartm: | the menu theme is loaded entirely separately to the ui theme, one doesn't depend on the other and besides that, the UI theme is always loaded before the menu theme |
| [22:08:14] | jya: | that was just a thought, on trying to understand what was going on |
| [22:08:25] | jya: | it only occurs on my backend+frontend machine |
| [22:08:44] | jya: | i have another frontend, and it's all good (or so I think) |
| [22:09:11] | jya: | just that with this theme, it's obvious if it's not the right menu: the menu names do not fit in |
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| [22:38:24] | z0pluto: | What happened to libmythtv between 0.25 and 0.27? |
| [22:38:28] | z0pluto: | I am trying to port this to 0.27 https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/pull/10 |
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| [23:38:17] | stuartm: | I doubt anyone here can remember all the changes, of which there were probably hundreds |
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