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| [10:04:34] | stuartm: | http://xkcd.com/1296/ |
| [10:35:58] | stuarta: | :) |
| [10:48:16] | clever: | :D |
| [10:53:47] | stuarta: | i personally like 1964 |
| [10:53:51] | stuarta: | 1294 |
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| [14:18:55] | danielk221: | http://xkcd.com/1283/ |
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| [20:36:33] | stuartm: | dblain: can I return a QMap/QVector/Other array type from services? For the transcoder profiles I only need an ID and name, it seems like overkill to create a new class with all the trappings just for that |
| [20:39:54] | dblain: | stuartm: Yes, a QMap will work. Any Qt type that can be stored in a QVariant should work. |
| [20:42:17] | stuartm: | great, I figured it should, but all the existing examples were either QStringLists or much more complex data types |
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| [21:16:47] | buu: | Where am I supposed to store genres in videometadata? |
| [21:17:31] | buu: | Oh, videogenre ? |
| [21:17:35] | dekarl: | stuartm, I looked into the two additional role. but that requires a change to the database schema so I'll leave that alone for now |
| [21:18:48] | stuartm: | dekarl: ok, thanks for looking at it anyway :) |
| [21:18:51] | dekarl: | buu from a plugin or a python script? |
| [21:19:08] | buu: | dekarl: Um, script I guess? |
| [21:27:19] | dekarl: | buu try http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . heap.py#n814 and http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/0.24_Python_bindin . . . ndlers#Video |
| [21:30:06] | ** buu shrugs ** | |
| [21:37:19] | dekarl: | buu, let me reword that. Please try to not fiddle directly with the database as some refactorings around that area are planned for the not to distant future. There is that plan, that we have APIs that we are trying to keep working regardless of the underlying changes. So try to use them please. |
| [21:37:38] | buu: | dekarl: But I'm not using python.. |
| [21:38:05] | buu: | dekarl: speaking of refactorings, any chance we can get a 'virtual' filename field in videometadata? |
| [21:38:06] | dekarl: | Hmm, that's not so good then |
| [21:38:14] | dekarl: | no. |
| [21:38:17] | buu: | =[ |
| [21:38:39] | buu: | How about changing how mythvideo displays tree view? |
| [21:38:51] | dekarl: | IIRC video and recordings are going to get closer |
| [21:39:06] | buu: | Yeah, someone mentioned that |
| [21:39:09] | dekarl: | so no point in promises regarding stuff that may be gone soon |
| [21:40:12] | buu: | dekarl: Here's one of my current issues, I have folders like movies/my movie/my movie.avi |
| [21:40:14] | dekarl: | IIRC your usecase can be mapped to tags and or metadata? So find a movies by director or by movie set? |
| [21:40:24] | buu: | What's videogenre for? |
| [21:40:47] | buu: | If I go to movies I see "my movie" but then I have to select the "folder" my movie; then select "my movie.avi" again, which irritates me |
| [21:41:09] | dekarl: | so don't browse by location? |
| [21:41:21] | buu: | The other browse modes seem completely unusable |
| [21:41:42] | dekarl: | remove one layer of folders? |
| [21:42:04] | buu: | dekarl: I'd prefer not to modify my physical structure just to change how mythvideo displays |
| [21:42:12] | buu: | I plan on solving the issue with symlinks. Lots of symlinks. |
| [21:42:52] | buu: | But it'd be nice to separate that view info out inside mythvideo itself |
| [21:43:02] | dekarl: | videogenre contains all genres for video to be mapped to videos via videometadategenre? |
| [21:43:33] | jheizer: | Is your irritation because you have a single movie in the folder? |
| [21:43:49] | jheizer: | seems like it is doing what most people would expect it to do |
| [21:43:58] | jheizer: | displaying the in the folder you defined |
| [21:45:44] | dekarl: | jheizer: found it http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2013-11-24:18:36 |
| [21:46:34] | buu: | jheizer: That is one minor irritation |
| [21:46:38] | dekarl: | buu, one idea is that you can later have tags on your content like "Christmas" or "Action" or both and the browse by tag |
| [21:46:39] | buu: | That would be nice to fix |
| [21:46:55] | buu: | dekarl: Yes.. I'd like to do that |
| [21:46:59] | jheizer: | yeah tags seem to be more what you want |
| [21:47:10] | buu: | What's the distinction between 'tag' and 'genre'? |
| [21:48:37] | dekarl: | After all the planned changes I hope that a genre is just a one kind of tag. |
| [21:50:02] | dekarl: | so you can have tags like "recordedfrom=thatchannel" or "genre=[action,christmas]" or "video=stereo" etc pp |
| [21:50:24] | buu: | ah |
| [21:50:35] | buu: | That's not so much 'tag' as 'metadata' |
| [21:51:01] | dekarl: | well, isn't a tag some kind of metadata? |
| [21:51:03] | buu: | And has the potential to be really unmaintainable |
| [21:51:12] | buu: | Sure, but tag has the connotation of being more specific |
| [21:51:26] | dekarl: | indeed, but so is a forrest of symlinks :D |
| [21:51:35] | jheizer: | sounds easier than tons of symlinks |
| [21:51:40] | buu: | That's why I wanted virtual filenames! |
| [21:51:43] | ** jheizer was too slow ** | |
| [21:51:44] | buu: | or something |
| [21:51:55] | buu: | I'm open to suggestions here! |
| [21:52:06] | jheizer: | maintain tags vs maintain virtual folders |
| [21:52:13] | buu: | Oh sure |
| [21:52:17] | buu: | But the UI doesn't support any of that |
| [21:52:24] | buu: | And tags aren't really hierarchical |
| [21:53:07] | buu: | One of my other problems is the lack of distinction between 'movies' and 'tv' |
| [21:53:19] | buu: | If I go 'browse by action genre' I don't want 450 tv episodes to show up |
| [21:53:26] | dekarl: | you mean something like "action->eastern" and "action->western" appearing under action, too? |
| [21:53:32] | buu: | I mean I realize a lot of this isn't really what mythtv is built for |
| [21:54:36] | dekarl: | buu, it'll only get worse once we have better support for remote content (video on demand) and audio only content (podcasts, radio, music). Maybe in one list :D |
| [21:55:01] | dekarl: | but that is just pipe dreams atm |
| [21:55:40] | buu: | When I said hierarchical I meant more in terms of browse modes |
| [21:55:56] | buu: | Most of the non-folder views seem to just display a list of 800 things |
| [22:00:38] | buu: | I suppose pipe dreaming what I want is essentially a UI that displays a series of searches based on 'tags' in ever smaller amounts |
| [22:00:52] | buu: | Search -> Movies -> Action -> Before 1992 |
| [22:01:02] | buu: | But I have no idea how to navigate that with a remote |
| [22:01:12] | buu: | Essentially my idea at the moment is to 'freeze' those types of searches as symlink trees |
| [22:01:24] | buu: | Obviously that's suboptimal but.. |
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| [22:28:29] | buu: | What happens if my filename lacks an extension? |
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| [23:21:31] | Rhomber: | hey all |
| [23:22:18] | Rhomber: | so just looking for an internal TV tuner card to work with MythTV.. it seems PCIe cards have more problems than PCI cards (need patching e.t.c.).. should I just stick to a PCI card to be safe for now? |
| [23:31:42] | dekarl: | !url tuners |
| [23:31:42] | MythLogBot: | No match for keyword tuners |
| [23:32:46] | dekarl: | hmm, Rhomber, see http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information and you want #mythtv-users :) |
| [23:33:27] | Rhomber: | dekarl: thanks, I have been looking over those pages.. just wanted some general advice.. and will join there.. thanks |
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