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Tuesday, November 19th, 2013, 00:03 UTC
[00:03:49] skd5aner: stuartm: I know you've been keeping plenty busy with fun stuff, just a friendly reminder about the socket issues we were looking at last month
[00:03:54] skd5aner: :)
[00:04:40] skd5aner: no super rush – fixing my upstart script has significately increased the WAF since at least the MBE is online 98% of the time without manual intervention
[00:07:28] stichnot: skd5aner: I'll try this later, but I'm thinking that adding channelgroup and channelgroupnames to the Additional Tables, and a few AND clauses to the Search Phrase, will do the trick
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[00:43:31] skd5aner: yea, that's definitely more elegant! :)
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[02:14:51] gigem: stichnot, stuartm: The current recording filters are fairly limited and can only really use the main tables — record, program and channel. This was by design keep to things simple and leave the hard stuff for custom rules. That being said, it was always my intention to eventually allow users to create their own custom filters. Perhaps that could suffice. Alternatively, sphery (I think) had a suggestion a
[02:14:53] gigem: long time ago to make custom rules more user-friendly.
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[03:16:52] stichnot: So I guess some new version of taglib is required to compile core MythTV? My build fails under Ubuntu 10.04. :( http://pastebin.com/BcA6yNA5
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[03:38:55] stichnot: stuartm: the lazy loading of the recordings page isn't working so well for me. Using Chrome and Firefox, it only fetches data for a few extra recordings past the current scroll location. If you scroll down, it fetches a few more, and so on. I would expect it to continue fetching in the background. Otherwise, I won't be able to search for text in a particular recording details unless I...
[03:38:57] stichnot: ...manually scroll lots and lots of times.
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[03:45:48] skd5aner: stichnot: I think paul bumped the min required version of taglib to 1.8 yesterday... http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2013-11-17
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[03:54:37] Captain_Murdoch2: stuartm, I believe that was added because we didn't want to get back different data types (or a full/half data set) from the same endpoint call. I could go either way on it. goal was a fast way to get just titles, not all the rest of the recording info since some clients want to display a title list before displaying the full list of recordings.
[04:00:56] stichnot: skd5aner: I see that paul-h said "think I'll just disable writing or removing images from flac tags if taglib is < 1.8 for now. 1.8 is only a year old so maybe too new for a few distro's". A subsequent commit did a partial #ifdef against 1.8, but it definitely doesn't build against 1.6.
[04:05:45] stichnot: basically, I think the entirety of both commits needs to be #ifdef'd against 1.8.
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[08:08:26] blafoo: About ticket #11935: The problem are the four RemoteFile::Exists calls in videometadata.cpp (line 635 onwards). Unfortunately I don't really know enough about the mythtv API to fix it, but these 4 calls prevent saving the coverart/screenshot/banner/fanart filename into the database. Comment them out and everything is fine. Can anyone give a hint on what would be a proper fix?
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[08:32:58] dekarl1: blafoo: looking at http://code.mythtv.org/doxygen/remotefile_8cp . . . .html#l00409 I wonder if you see "RemoteFile::Exists(): looking for local file: %1" when you enable VB_FILE and LOG_INFO. Sounds like the code is not noticing that the file is local and connects to itself via network instead.
[08:33:41] dekarl1: http://code.mythtv.org/doxygen/remotefile_8cp . . . .html#l00078 shows that everything via the myth protocol is considered not local
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[09:14:08] blafoo: dekarl: I have to check later, but I *think* I saw a local path like ("/coverart_47571.jpg") for the filename, not a myth url
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[11:28:02] stuartm: Captain_Murdoch2: GetTitleList() I have no problem with, it's just GetTitleInfoList() which seems to start down the route of duplicate GetRecordedList() – there's very little additional overhead for the client to use GetRecordedList() instead and only read the information they need – we're already offering reduced data sets from endpoints, GetProgramGuide() has from day one of the services API only returned partial data unless an optional '
[11:28:03] stuartm: Details' arg is provided
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[14:02:05] stuartm: stichnot: the on-demand loading was a deliberate choice, since it saves bandwidth for those on mobile data connections (generally most people are interested in what's near the top of the lists instead of the bottom)
[14:03:21] stuartm: the fact that it restricts in-page searching of descriptions is a known flaw, so as a compromise I'll offer both on-demand, and staged loading with a setting to switch between both modes
[14:03:51] stichnot: True. Can there be a button to load all? or load more on-demand at a time?
[14:03:56] stichnot: ah , ok
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[14:09:17] stuartm: I was already planning a settings screen to enabled/disable animations, auto-hiding of the menu etc
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[15:11:24] Captain_Murdoch2: stuartm, ok, I should have looked at the code first. :| I don't see GetTitleInfoList expanding, it was put in to allow the client to get a unique list of titles with their inetref so that artwork could be displayed with the titles. GetTitleList returns a stringlist, so I couldn't change that, and making the client fetch all recordings just to get a list of titles and their inetref didn't make sense, so I added GetTitleInf
[15:11:24] Captain_Murdoch2: oList. If you're changing the API and making people rewrite things, I guess you could get rid of GetTitleList in favor of GetTitleInfoList and possibly rename GetTitleInfoList -> GetTtileList. I hate breaking existing clients though.
[15:12:42] Captain_Murdoch2: I guess I could see some other minor mods to GetTitleInfoList, like it might make sense to include a count of the # of recordings in that title so that could be displayed. it is distinct data though, so it's not the same as searching on a title in recordings.
[15:13:42] Captain_Murdoch2: all that being said, you're the guy with the time to spend on it, so do what you think is best. :)
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[15:52:25] stuartm: Captain_Murdoch2: I'm just trying to establish what's the best approach for an API, returning two different objects via different endpoints containing the same data filtered/organised slightly differently seems to entail more work for users of the API as they need two different parsers to handle the differing return types
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[15:56:24] stuartm: I don't really have time to work on it, not if I want to get the webfrontend stuff finished, I felt compelled to ask out of curiosity more than anything
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[16:04:54] stuartm: someone with time/interest on their hands might want to investigate why the media monitor is apparently not working on ubuntu (-users mailing list, "Multiple ODD drives")
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[16:05:57] stuartm: I've noticed something related with my production box, but haven't had the time to investigate
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[16:12:45] stuartm: oh nevermind, just realised that he's talking about bluray ... he's lacking a mount point for the drive
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[16:37:55] Captain_Murdoch2: stuartm, GetTitleInfoList is closer to GetTitleList than it is to GetRecordedList. GetTitleInfoList is unique data, not filtered data. I could see GetTitleList being replaced by the new endpoint/response object type, but at the time I didn't want to break clients.
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[16:41:26] jheizer_: Some clients may be like me and still using the recorded list to generate the titles list to keep backwards compatibility. I have yet to update that section to do it smartly based on backend version.
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[17:17:32] bill6502: stuartm: I noticed you mentioned listing the changes to the Services API yesterday. My plan for the 0.28 Release Notes was to go through the commits and create lines like the following Wiki entry per change:
[17:17:35] bill6502: *{{gitcommit|1f81373}},{{gitcommit|f1dffbe}} Add support for music album artwork to upnp. <BE>:6544/Content/GetAlbumArt?TrackId&Widt&Height
[17:18:22] bill6502: but I don't want to step on your plan or duplicate the information. Is this what you were planning?
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[17:24:42] stuartm: bill6502: I was thinking more about some way to indicate in the API itself which parts are deprecated, hadn't given much thought to documenting changes/additions so I'd be grateful if you want to do that
[17:28:12] bill6502: Ok, missed that. I'll keep writing the Wiki entries. tnx
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[19:08:46] stuartm: has someone upgraded the wiki? It looks different ...
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[19:14:56] stuartm: slightly different theme at least
[19:17:09] stuartm: heh, appears in the old styling when I login
[19:18:15] stuartm: so default theme changed, but existing users got the old theme selected in their preferences
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[19:27:04] buu: stuartm: Hey!
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