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Saturday, October 26th, 2013, 00:01 UTC
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[00:04:07] JennieL: Hi. I'm in MythTV frontend, v0_26. Commercial detection is simply not working on a couple of recordings. I want to completely disable it. In the UI, afaict, I can only select from various comm detect/slip methods — but how do I completely DISABLE it?
[00:04:58] JennieL: Oops, sorry.
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[05:04:32] stichnot: For those following the ZBox ID41 saga... I still didn't get it to stay up and playing with the fan disconnected. However, I played with the fan settings in the BIOS setup, basically turned them down as far as possible, and the fan becomes extremely quiet yet the CPU doesn't overheat even with the cover on.
[05:05:44] stichnot: I sat in the room for a couple minutes but wasn't able to pick out the fan from the house background noise
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[09:54:48] stuartm: in my notes I have a line "DDS image caching" ... anyone know what I meant by DDS?
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[10:33:43] stuartm: I really need to start writing more descriptive notes :/
[10:35:52] stuartm: ahh, it was in reference to someones suggestion that the image cache store DirectDraw Surface textures instead of png
[11:06:56] dekarl: stuartm: aye, art cached in target hardware format instead of source format :) e.g. with precalculated mipmaps scaled with expensive algorithms that can the just be peeled from the file.
[11:07:20] ** dekarl is likely the / one of the someones **
[11:08:20] dekarl: on my remote frontend without image cache you get pauses just for cycling the information panel in recordings because it has to load the channel icon / art :(
[11:08:59] dekarl: and with jya starting to look into the Raspberry it might be useful to cache in hardware format in the backend
[11:22:56] stuartm: it doesn't look too difficult to do, but I wasn't planning on working on it today, just noticed it on the list and couldn't help wondering what I'd meant
[11:25:03] dekarl: imho its just something to keep in mind. same for for the themes
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[11:47:38] stuartm: if there's anything still missing from the web guide feature-wise, that was there in mythweb please let me know
[11:48:35] stuartm: the only thing I still want to do there before moving on is smooth out the loading/paging, maybe use some animation
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[12:32:13] Tobbe5178: stuartm: your recent changes to season/episode i assume that means that finaly the season and episode from xmltv will carry over all the way to a recording properly?
[12:34:53] stuartm: Tobbe5178: yes, although we're not loading it from the database for recordings yet
[12:35:47] Tobbe5178: ok
[12:36:42] stuartm: it's carried over to recordedprogram though, so I just need to edit ProgramInfo to load it
[12:37:00] Tobbe5178: ok, but it still is a good change
[12:37:13] Tobbe5178: i sugested some improvements like this on the ml a long time ago
[12:37:33] Tobbe5178: but i think someone didnt like it
[12:38:01] stuartm: yeah, it was on the cards for a very long time, one former dev vocally opposed it though so it never happened
[12:38:48] Tobbe5178: also like the changes to syndicated episode number
[12:39:03] Tobbe5178: always felt it was backwards
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[13:50:11] stichnot: stuartm: I wanted to try out the new internal server Program Guide, but I just get a blank page when I click on "Program Guide", on both my production and dev backends, chrome or firefox
[13:54:17] stuartm: stichnot: any errors in the backend log?
[13:55:42] stichnot: ah, here it is: HttpServer97 serverSideScripting.cpp:227 (EvaluatePage) – Error calling QSP File: /usr/mythtrunk/share/mythtv/html/tv/guide.qsp – ReferenceError: Can't find variable: isValidObject
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[14:03:34] stuartm: oops, forgot to add a file to a commit
[14:05:21] stuartm: stichnot: fixed
[14:12:18] stichnot: cool, thanks.
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[14:14:30] stichnot: do you want feedback? :)
[14:16:10] skd5aner: stuartm: hey, good afternoon (your time :) ) – just wanted to let you know that right on schedule, mythbackend tanked this morning on the master backend... I've got logs, but they're extremely verbose (-v schedule,socket,network) for both the master and the slave (slave just -v socket,network)
[14:16:22] skd5aner: stuartm: however, no core file that I can see in the home directory :(
[14:17:26] skd5aner: stuartm: I'm getting ready to take my family out for a few hours... I'll check back in later, but let me know how you'd like me to get you the log files for review.
[14:20:38] skd5aner: lol – one log is 517MB
[14:21:23] stichnot: stuartm: for some reason, my channel icons in the internal guide are broken image links, but that doesn't bother me much
[14:24:35] stichnot: stuartm: when I mouse over a listing, the mouseover text gives the non-truncated title. When I mouse over the subtitle+description area, it would be better for the mouseover text to be the non-truncated subtitle+description instead of title.
[14:33:56] stichnot: hmm, somehow mythweb TOS pages are now broken: program guide, upcoming recordings, recorded programs, and any item from the Recording Schedules page
[14:43:33] stuartm: stichnot: well descriptions here in the UK can be essay-length which would be very irritating, but I could look at adding it to the detail popup* if it's not too long *(hover on an item for a couple of seconds)
[14:44:16] stuartm: stichnot: where are your channel icons stored, are the paths in the DB relative or absolute?
[14:45:07] stichnot: stuartm: I'm thinking especially about programs in a 15-minute slot, or where the timeslot is truncated at the edge of the page
[14:46:41] stuartm: stichnot: feedback would be good, although it's still a work in progress e.g. you can create schedules but not delete them yet, and I'm working on improving the way that schedule changes are handled so that it's reflected for every programme, not just the one you clicked on
[14:47:03] stichnot: I have no idea how my channel icons are stored, I'll look up the recent discussion and try to fix them
[14:47:50] stuartm: I think some code to fix broken paths might be in order
[14:48:36] stichnot: stuartm: you were asking about other functionality that people use in mythweb. Quite regularly, I use Recording Schedules (to find a one that might not be in the guide currently), Upcoming Recordings, and Recorded Programs.
[14:48:56] stuartm: update the path in the db if we determine that it's incorrect, or at the very least fix the path as we load in ChannelInfo
[14:49:32] stuartm: stichnot: yeah intend on adding all of those, consider that much to be core functionality
[14:49:57] stuartm: bbl, got an errand to run
[14:52:24] skd5aner: stichnot: I had to run some SQL and remove the path from the icon field in the table and just keep the filename... then it worked
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[18:04:38] stichnot: stuartm: this fixes mythweb, read it and weep: . . . 975f1fa020b8
[18:05:23] stichnot: freaking ridiculous! (not your fault, I just have to vent...)
[18:06:24] stuartm: stichnot: yeah, that's one of the bigger reasons for dropping mythweb, it was a f'ing nightmare to keep in sync with schema and protocol changes
[18:09:17] stuartm: it's also partly an issue of bad design in mythweb, passing around values as an indexed array instead of assigning them to local variables, or even just a name-based array
[18:09:48] stuartm: stichnot: sorry that you had to be the one to do it
[18:10:12] stichnot: np, I know how it goes...
[18:10:31] stichnot: but next time, consider appending new fields instead of inserting near the beginning :)
[18:11:29] stichnot: I'm not 100% sure I caught all the necessary changes
[18:12:57] stuartm: I did consider it, but right or wrong decided that the episode total should be adjacent to the episode
[18:14:45] stuartm: it might be a good idea to convert mythweb to use services if it's going to be kept around, that would avoid this issue from even re-occurring
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[20:06:53] stichnot: stuartm: I don't really know php, much less the mythweb structure, but it seems that mythweb could at least use the php bindings where the constants are managed in one place, instead of duplicating them
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[23:36:09] stichnot: jpabq: Can you look at / comment on the latest patch and discussion in #11882 ?
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