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Saturday, October 19th, 2013, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:54] stuartm: heh, nevermind, didn't scrutinise the ORDER BY clause of the sql closely enough
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[10:58:27] stuartm: anyone here using the GetProgramGuide() api and finding that the results are a little strange? If I grab the guide for a period today it's complete, but grabbing two days in the future some programs are missing and even some channels aren't there
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[11:19:22] stuartm: dekarl: since you've obviously looked at this before now, FromProgramQuery() which you edited in https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/c0c47344
[11:19:52] stuartm: why even use DISTINCT there, surely the GROUP BY clause ends up doing the same thing?
[11:20:55] stuartm: the only parts that need to be distinct are the chanid and starttime?
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[12:16:53] dekarl: stuartm, its complicated :) if you group by chanid you lose the grouping of channels by callsign and channum. also its not yet looking at visibility...
[12:27:48] stuartm: unfortunately the grouping by callsign and channum is flawed, what you can end up with programs with different chanids – which is currently breaking the guide service API (adding a workaround atm)
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[13:52:27] stuartm: http://mythtv.co.uk/imagebin/internal_guidegrid.jpg
[13:53:06] stuartm: styling is subject to change, just wanted to play with it, make a bit different to the current mythweb styling
[13:53:52] stuartm: going slower than I had hoped because I'm have to spend a lot of time fixing bugs in the services code
[13:58:05] stuartm: and just to show how well it scales – http://mythtv.co.uk/imagebin/internal_guidegrid_android.png
[13:58:28] stuartm: it's all css+divs, no tables
[14:03:51] stichnot: Nice!
[14:05:54] stuartm: got all sorts of ideas which I want to play with, stuff like the ability to create simple recording rules from the guidegrid in a couple of clicks (similar to mythfrontend)
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[14:27:30] stichnot: stuartm: not to distract you from this, but... :) I'm thinking there might be a memory leak related to the preview images in the PBB. The virtual size of mythfrontend seems to grow without bound as I navigate through the items.
[14:28:01] stichnot: My production frontends have 2GB RAM and no swap, so mythfrontend freezes/crashes after a while.
[14:29:13] stichnot: Most likely, whatever problem this is has been there for a while, just exacerbated recently maybe by a combination of the changes for fetching full-size images and fixing the timestamp issues.
[14:39:20] stuartm: stichnot: I will have a look, but maybe early next week as I'm on a roll atm and I don't want to lose that momentum
[14:49:07] stichnot: stuartm: np. I have in-laws arriving soon and staying for several weeks, so I need to work on other things that will improve their TV-watching experience in the guest room. :)
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[16:10:33] dekarl: stuartm hmm, thats not so nice (wrt folding multiple copies of the same channel into one) but I like your guide grid in the backend webserver :)
[16:13:50] skd5aner: stichnot: lol – having overnight guests who will be leveraging mythtv for several days certainly does make you realize there are certain things that need some "attention" :)
[16:15:43] stuartm: dekarl: yeah, it'll need revisiting because my solution was a bit of a hack, but at least it seems to do what we expect for now – there was no way it was going to be optimal to try and sort out that stuff on the client side (especially not in ecma script)
[16:17:19] skd5aner: stuartm: nice work on the grid guide!
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[16:21:31] stuartm: skd5aner: thanks
[16:21:57] stuartm: you can waste a lot of time on superficial styling stuff, especially with css since even now it manages to surprise me with it's often bizarre behaviour
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[16:27:05] stichnot: stuartm: I think I posted this before, but here it is again for your enjoyment. http://s.mlkshk.com/r/PPML
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[16:28:49] stuartm: stichnot: that sums it up nicely :)
[16:29:43] stuartm: monkeys and typewriters come to mind when I imagine the development process for CSS
[16:30:27] stuartm: literally design by committee
[16:31:16] stuartm: with Microsoft engineers on-board, what could possibly go wrong
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[20:17:02] stuartm: showing the 'record' popup – http://www.mythtv.co.uk/imagebin/internal_guidegrid2.jpg
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[20:20:25] stuartm: oh and a programme scheduled to record, not a whole lot different from mythweb or the frontend that ...
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[20:35:06] stuartm: gigem: would be a good idea to create one or more simple methods to the services API for simple recording schedule creation? The most simple API could take just chanid, starttime and a recording type argument (single, find one, record all etc)
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[20:38:19] stuartm: that's a lot less than the current API where you need to provide a minimum of 18 arguments
[20:39:09] stuartm: more than half of which could be pulled from the program table
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