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| [00:00:27] | burble: | to of course discuss mythtv issues |
| [00:00:51] | wagnerrp: | mythtv development issues, you're in the right place |
| [00:01:00] | wagnerrp: | mythtv use issues, you probably want #mythtv-users |
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| [00:02:08] | burble: | I dev... somewhat... |
| [00:02:25] | burble: | I'm more of a hardware guy but i code in C |
| [00:02:54] | burble: | wouldn't mind helping if you have some questions.... |
| [00:03:35] | burble: | nobody invites someonecos they are a nood script kiddie... |
| [00:03:54] | burble: | not to a dev chan |
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| [00:04:45] | burble: | so??? let me know..... stay or leave... |
| [00:05:16] | wagnerrp: | it's an open channel, you're free to stay as long as you stay on topic, which is development of mythtv |
| [00:05:38] | burble: | ok thank you wagnerrp |
| [00:05:53] | burble: | I want to help with stuff... |
| [00:06:04] | burble: | I like being part of prjects.... |
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| [01:54:36] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit now |
| [01:54:36] | MythBuild: | build #4447 forced |
| [01:54:37] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [01:54:53] | MythBuild: | build #4447 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed git] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4447 |
| [01:56:07] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit now |
| [01:56:07] | MythBuild: | build #4448 forced |
| [01:56:08] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [01:58:59] | wagnerrp: | huh... it just decided to abandon the git repo and download a fresh one |
| [02:06:25] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: Well, first it had permissions problems with the homedir, and now it thinks the homedir was empty. A mount issue for home directories? |
| [02:06:39] | wagnerrp: | gave it a new scratch partition |
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| [02:16:09] | MythBuild: | Hey! build master-freebsd-64bit #4448 is complete: Failure [4failed git] |
| [02:16:09] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4448 ** | |
| [02:16:10] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4448 |
| [02:16:19] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit now |
| [02:16:21] | MythBuild: | build #4449 forced |
| [02:16:22] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
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| [02:36:23] | MythBuild: | Hey! build master-freebsd-64bit #4449 is complete: Failure [4failed git] |
| [02:36:23] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4449 ** | |
| [02:36:23] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4449 |
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| [02:42:59] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit now |
| [02:43:00] | MythBuild: | build #4450 forced |
| [02:43:00] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
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| [03:03:03] | MythBuild: | Hey! build master-freebsd-64bit #4450 is complete: Failure [4failed git] |
| [03:03:03] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4450 ** | |
| [03:03:03] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4450 |
| [03:04:12] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit now |
| [03:04:14] | MythBuild: | build #4451 forced |
| [03:04:14] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [03:04:38] | wagnerrp: | i wonder if there's a 20-minute timeout on the git pull |
| [03:08:41] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: My recollection is that almost all the buildbot steps have a timeout (20 minutes sounds about right) to avoid hangs/outages. And nothing should take more than 20 minutes, right? |
| [03:09:17] | wagnerrp: | a fresh repository download sure seems to |
| [03:09:34] | wagnerrp: | although it's only going a small fraction of my connection speed |
| [03:09:36] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: (wow, it has been a long time since I last set up a buildbot; I am surprised I remember anything about it.) |
| [03:09:56] | wagnerrp: | and i'm sure osuosl has far more bandwidth than i do |
| [03:10:02] | wagnerrp: | i don't know why it's taking so long |
| [03:11:23] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: osuosl bandwidth may not be the issue. Is the server CPU constrained? A default git server does a lot of "compressing"/"organizational" work of the repo on the origin host. If it is overloaded, you get to wait. |
| [03:12:22] | wagnerrp: | seems git is eating a full core |
| [03:13:54] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: You are going to need a bigger core :-) |
| [03:18:07] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: I have this recollection that you can do a git-repack to improve things. I do not recall any of the specifics (that is what man pages (and google) is for). |
| [03:24:16] | MythBuild: | Hey! build master-freebsd-64bit #4451 is complete: Failure [4failed git] |
| [03:24:16] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4451 ** | |
| [03:24:16] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4451 |
| [03:41:32] | wagnerrp: | i think the stdout/err monitoring of buildbot is making git misbehave |
| [03:41:42] | wagnerrp: | manually running the fetch, it's running easily twice as fast |
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| [03:46:04] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit now |
| [03:46:06] | MythBuild: | build #4452 forced |
| [03:46:06] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [03:52:53] | wagnerrp: | it's like there's some internal mechanism in buildbot that tracks the state of the source, and flushes it if it thinks anything is inconsistent |
| [04:00:21] | jya_: | stichnot: the rewind 10s that takes me back to the previous recording in the livetv sequence always seem to happen the first time you rewind after you started another program |
| [04:00:30] | jya_: | after that it's fine for the entire livetv session |
| [04:01:01] | jya_: | so program1 starts, then end, transisition to program2. now I rewind 10s and I find mysellf at the beginning of program 1 |
| [04:01:10] | jya_: | once it has happened, i can't reproduce it |
| [04:09:45] | MythBuild: | build #4452 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4452 |
| [04:09:54] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit now |
| [04:09:58] | MythBuild: | build forced [ETA 23m39s] |
| [04:09:58] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [04:22:54] | MythBuild: | Hey! build master-freebsd-64bit #4453 is complete: Success [3build successful] |
| [04:22:54] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4453 ** | |
| [04:22:55] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/4453 |
| [04:29:04] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: btw, does your git master run a periodic 'git gc [--aggressive]' on a regular basis (usually via cron). It can make the repo more performant. |
| [04:29:34] | wagnerrp: | no clue |
| [04:33:58] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: as I recall (again, I would never suggest someone else trust my recollection) github runs it periodically against all repos, but since the MythTV master is elsewhere, you may need it too. I also have this recollection that newer gits did it semi-automatically in some cases. |
| [04:36:34] | wagnerrp: | gary_buhrmaster: last i heard was that ipv6 support at osuosl was "coming soon" |
| [04:36:39] | wagnerrp: | but that was like two years ago |
| [05:00:01] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: That sounds like a bit of a conservative schedule. From personal experience I know I can configure either a C or J router and peer in a few days (hours if the peer is willing and your change window is open), although you do need recent HW/SW (and support instrumentation). |
| [05:00:45] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: on the other hand, if they have firewalls, some vendors IPv6 support is, shall we say, interesting (i.e. non-existent to non-working). |
| [05:01:53] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: but it really does not matter. Until osuosl says "ready", my request is moot. |
| [05:02:09] | gary_buhrmaster: | wagnerrp: Thanks for the answer as to the why. |
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| [08:35:47] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: I've recompressed the repo, (dropped from ~350MB to ~250MB), actual clones may be larger |
| [08:43:13] | stuartm: | wierd thing is that the completely clean clone I just did was 514MB vs 510MB for the clone I've been working from for a couple of years |
| [08:44:14] | stuartm: | anyway, clones are larger than the one on the server because the gitolite original remains completely compressed |
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| [13:09:50] | stuartm: | gary_buhrmaster: http://code.mythtv.org/coverity/index.html |
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| [13:47:17] | gary_buhrmaster: | stuartm: Thank you. |
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| [15:14:55] | danielk22: | Hey, I promised to update you guys on the log forwarding we tried at work with syslog-ng.. It didn't work very well. Log lines were lost despite using TCP as a transport. |
| [15:18:10] | danielk22: | I'm not sure what we'll try next, but some logstash and rsyslog recipes for forwarding look promising. We'll probably also try to get syslog-ng working, but it's definitely not a 'works out of the box' thing. |
| [15:25:43] | gary_buhrmaster: | danielk22: Have you looked at using splunk forwarders to a central splunk instance? Not only did we not (appear to) lose any logs, but you get a nice search capability (and a whole lot more). Setup requires a bit of effort though. But worth it for larger enterprises. |
| [15:26:38] | gary_buhrmaster: | danielk22: splunk is also an "attractive nuisance" in that once you have it, you tend to find new ways to use it (and absorb your time). |
| [15:48:27] | danielk22: | gary_buhrmaster: Yep, we're using Splunk for our other products, but it's just too expensive. |
| [15:50:51] | danielk22: | Kibana appears to have most of the functionality of Splunk and it we won't have to beg Ops for permission to add automated searches. |
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| [16:05:02] | gary_buhrmaster: | danielk22: As I recall, depending on in-house politics, it might be possible to create a new (dedicated) splunk search head that you control (and accesses the indexers data), allowing you to write your own searches. |
| [16:06:39] | gary_buhrmaster: | danielk22: There is the argument that says that the biggest return on the investment in splunk is to let the enterprise use it. The *entire* enterprise. And to scale it up as needed to support what the enterprise needs. |
| [16:07:58] | gary_buhrmaster: | danielk22: Since the cost of splunk is the size of the indexed data, adding additional search heads is "free" (sort of, you still need the hardware, and the support of the hw/sw, etc.) |
| [16:08:50] | gary_buhrmaster: | danielk22: But I have seen enterprises where the "I paid for it, it is mine" mentality exists. Not good for the enterprise, but politics matters. |
| [16:12:10] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build 0.27-freebsd-64bit now |
| [16:12:10] | MythBuild: | build #87 forced |
| [16:12:10] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
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| [16:25:21] | danielk22: | gary_buhrmaster: When ITOps can't bill for usage they understandably keep other from using their toys. We're in the process of devolution. Placing ops within each service team. |
| [16:25:24] | danielk22: | A side effect of this is that 'enterprise software' that tries to be centralized ends up being the high friction tool rather than the low friction one. |
| [16:26:17] | danielk22: | In any case Splunk wouldn't be accessible to many MythTV users... but logstash or rsyslog is accessible to anyone wanting to centralize their MythTV logs. |
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| [16:28:13] | gary_buhrmaster: | danielk22: Well, there is the "free" splunk version (for small deployments), but I agree that it is not for the faint of heart, and a normal MythTV user would be overwhelmed. Better to use something simpler such as rsyslog/logstash/syslog-ng (something supported by their distro). |
| [16:37:30] | MythBuild: | Hey! build 0.27-freebsd-64bit #87 is complete: Success [3build successful] |
| [16:37:30] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/87 ** | |
| [16:37:30] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.27 . . . it/builds/87 |
| [16:37:45] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build 0.27-freebsd-64bit now |
| [16:37:46] | MythBuild: | build forced [ETA 25m19s] |
| [16:37:46] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [16:42:25] | MythBuild: | Hey! build 0.27-freebsd-64bit #88 is complete: Success [3build successful] |
| [16:42:25] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/88 ** | |
| [16:42:25] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/0.27 . . . it/builds/88 |
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| [17:02:49] | flamingokid: | Anybody around? |
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| [17:13:16] | jpabq: | danielk22: Is there a reason you didn't put named_output_file_common() as a virtual function in StreamHandler() ? The version of that function in asistreamhandler looks pretty generic to me. I was just wondering if I was missing something. |
| [17:15:22] | danielk22: | jpabq: I just didn't see it as being reusable outside asistreamhandler |
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| [17:32:40] | jpabq: | danielk22: someone has a DVB channel that is not recording correclty. It looks like it is because dtvrecorder can't find a keyframe, so doesn't write out the file. I was thinking about extending dvbstreamhandler to allow for a 'raw' file so I could look at it and see why dtvrecorder doesn't like it's contents. |
| [17:34:00] | danielk22: | dblain: #11871 <-- Allows MythTV proper to compile on Linux with Qt5 without deprecated functions. |
| [17:34:00] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11871 ** | |
| [17:35:40] | danielk22: | jpabq: Unless this has been changed, we should record even if we don't find a keyframe. After a set number of frames without a keyframe we start declaring random frames as keyframes. |
| [17:35:52] | danielk22: | jpabq: Maybe we're not finding any video frames? |
| [17:37:24] | danielk22: | Anyway, allowing the recorder to record everything even if it doesn't understand is something I can see being useful for debugging. |
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| [18:02:41] | stuartm: | jpabq: there's a setting, 'Wait for keyframe' under the card options in mythtv-setup, might check that they don't have that enabled |
| [18:03:17] | stuartm: | assuming it's even used, it's very old and little spoken of |
| [18:11:50] | danielk22: | stuartm: That's enabled by default.. but even when enabled it is ignored if we don't actually see any keyframes. |
| [18:12:08] | danielk22: | We should probably drop it as an option and just always leave it enabled. |
| [18:16:34] | stuartm: | stichnot: a lot of the time uninitialised member variables warnings don't mean there is a bug in the class as it's currently used, but they are hinting that it's safer to always initialise in the constructor as that class may be used differently or be expanded at a later date in a way where that uninitialised variable does start causing problems |
| [18:18:00] | stuartm: | that's particularly the case where the class is exposed to users of the library |
| [18:18:20] | stichnot: | yeah, I agree. In this one case, it looked like potential for a real bug. I was hoping to reproduce a crash, but couldn't in a short time (and didn't spend any more time trying :) ) |
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| [18:19:03] | stichnot: | I actually want to redesign that section of code a bit, as I think it's a bit fragile as it stands |
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| [20:49:45] | jpabq: | danielk22: If this is H.264, then there is no fail-safe for no keyframes. I probably should add one. |
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| [21:06:22] | danielk22: | Ah... Yeah fail safes are good. Neither the decoder nor encoders are perfect and complete for all time.. |
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| [21:36:56] | wagnerrp: | what? i didn't even change any compiled code |
| [21:36:59] | wagnerrp: | how is it failing? |
| [21:37:14] | wagnerrp: | oh, it's probably failing to build the python bindings |
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