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[01:38:19] Milardo: Hi i was just at the mythtv-users channel but nobody would answer my question so i thought i could get a general answer here
[01:40:43] Milardo: So im just wondering if i could ask if my hdmi capture card is supported or not
[01:44:27] Milardo: Ok here is my question, i have a roxio game capture hd pro is this supported?
[01:46:35] Milardo: anybody have an idea?
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[03:04:07] knightr: dekarl, IIRC you were the one who added this, what is the subpicture menu on a DVD? My search suggested it could be subtitle or angle related (but there's already an angle menu)
[03:05:58] knightr: stuartm, I should have done the same (try to learn Italian), at least I could have practiced as one of my colleagues is Italian... It's not easy learning a language when you can't actually practice it...
[03:07:50] knightr: stuartm or jpabq, in a theme, what should be translated and what is a variable in "%Storage Group: |storagegroup%"? I am assume "Storage Group:" should be translated but what does the "%" before it means?
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[03:08:02] knightr: (and where is it documented if it is?)
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[03:27:34] jpabq: knightr: that is a complex syntax, that honestly requires some trial-and-error for me to get working in my theme. Normally the mythui code will do variable substitution on the 'variable' defined between the '%'. But, then it was found useful to allow an "only if" syntax, and that is where the '|' comes in.
[03:29:24] jpabq: In your example, the variable substitution will be performed on 'storagegroup' as designated by the '|'. The rest of the string "Storage Group: " will be left untouched by mythui. Further, if 'storagegroup' is NULL, then nothing will be printed — "Storage Group: " will be discarded.
[03:30:28] jpabq: I actually don't know where it is documented. It definitely should be, though.
[03:30:39] knightr: jpabq, thank you! I was pretty sure where the variable part was in there but did not understand what it meant...
[03:31:14] knightr: BTW, I meant "I assume" and not "I am assume" earlier..
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[07:27:39] dekarl: knightr_: uhh, I don't do DVDs. Don't think it was me...
[07:27:39] dekarl: Ahh the subpicture... a picture that is laid over the actual video. can be used to render subtitles or the active menu selection
[07:28:10] dekarl: http://www.mediachance.com/dvdmenu/Help/basics.htm
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[09:21:24] dekarl: man I hate TLAs IMI is documented as InstantMetadataIndentifier but its really the InstanceMetadataIdentifier... google that!
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[10:23:39] dekarl: crappy data... no way to recognize "this is the unique CRID for the generic episode..."
[10:28:07] dekarl: at least the DefaultAuthority is only invalid when the data is really bad anyway... should just filter that out. (eventis with missing .nl => not a valid domain name) No idea why they are sending CRIDs when its just saying "here be a local station depending on your location, have fun"
[10:38:48] jya: dekarl: what would be the mysql command to drop the index title_subtitle_start ?
[10:39:06] jya: I tried a few following the doc, none seems to do anything
[10:39:14] jya: DROP INDEX title_subtitle_start ON program;
[10:39:45] dekarl: ALTER TABLE program ADD INDEX title_subtitle_start (title, subtitle, starttime);
[10:39:50] dekarl: doh
[10:40:04] dekarl: ALTER TABLE program DROP INDEX title_subtitle_start;
[10:41:03] dekarl: your sample should be translated internally to this -^ (according to the docs)
[10:41:37] jya: ah found it: ALTER TABLE program DROP index start_title_subtitle;
[10:41:48] jya: thanks
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[11:21:06] dekarl: sphery: if Balanced Free Space has issues with auto-expiry, why do we suggest it as default? (looking at the german help text)
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[12:11:36] stuartm: knightr_: the bit between % and | OR | and % is what needs translating, I wonder though if we can't extract that string in a way that makes it clearer what needs translating and what doesn't
[12:12:23] stuartm: FWIW I prefer that variable names in templates are UPPERCASE to help avoid confusion but I can't force themers to abide by that
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[16:29:09] knightr_: dekarl, oops, sorry...
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[16:32:40] stuartm: knightr_: it was peper03 who added that
[16:35:08] knightr_: stuartm, yep, that's what I told the person who asked me... I was pretty sure which part was the variable (it's easy to spot when the variable name is composed of more than one word) but wanted to know more about what it actually meant...
[16:35:16] knightr_: thank you!
[16:36:03] knightr_: caps usually help finding the variable too as you already mentionned...
[16:36:05] stuartm: added the subpicture menu that is
[16:36:31] knightr_: yep, that's what I had understood...
[16:37:06] stuartm: good :)
[16:37:17] knightr_: BTW, do we still have blockers?
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[16:40:22] knightr_: I'll modify the program who extracts those (I already have a few things I want it to do it doesn't currently do), I'll see what I can do...
[16:41:06] stuartm: nothing to stop the beta at least, I'll get around to tagging/releasing tomorrow
[16:41:33] stuartm: there are outstanding issues, but I'm sure they'll be sorted before the RC/release
[16:42:51] knightr_: (I could put a comment that identified which parts need translation if I can find more info on the syntax used...)
[16:42:55] knightr_: OK, thank you!
[16:43:05] knightr_: s/identified/identifies
[16:45:43] knightr_: do you think it could be possible to add a field to the theme files that identifies which plugin they are related to? The field could be left blank or set to "MythFrontend" or something when outside a plugin...
[16:45:53] knightr_: s/do/Do
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[16:47:44] knightr_: (for each new theme which doesn't use the usual names the script which calls it has to be modified to identify what plugin the file is related to...)
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[16:49:32] knightr_: I want to put the logic of the script in the program and had a few more things...
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[18:58:36] knightr_: peper03, Hi! The subpicture DVD menu, is it the subtitle menu or something else?
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[20:42:28] jpabq: When master == 0.28-pre, I plan on making some time to re-write the HD-PVR 'recorder'
[20:44:54] wagnerrp: jpabq: you know, i told that guy repeatedly on mythtvtalk that he was setting the "preset tuner" option, and that's why it doesn't work
[20:45:55] jpabq: Yeah. I do have to agree though, that it could be a bit easier for a newbie to figure out.
[20:50:44] dekarl: any opinion wrt #11759? I'm not even sure what the problem is, but Paul seems to know his way around the transcoding pipeline. (and it builds)
[20:57:10] dekarl: wagnerrp: wrt #11758, isn't it easier to let mythburn.py convert the time to UTC before calling mythtranscode? Then add support for the offset after 0.28 is out. (asking you as its a python question)
[20:57:10] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11758 **
[21:00:54] wagnerrp: i've actually got timezone handling, including offsets such as that, built into the python bindings
[21:01:09] wagnerrp: although people should not be running mythburn.py manually, so it should not matter anyway
[21:02:35] wagnerrp: it sounds like mythburn just needs a couple lines fixed to force it to output UTC instead of local
[21:03:32] wagnerrp: http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mytht . . . y/dt.py#n466
[21:04:56] wagnerrp: just a find/replace for .isoformat -> .utcisoformat might be sufficient
[21:05:35] wagnerrp: actually, didn't we have a similar ticket to this a few weeks back?
[21:08:13] wagnerrp: yeah, i already fixed (but didn't push) this on july 7th
[21:08:17] dekarl: hmm, I don't see one in the mythtranscode or mytharchive component
[21:08:44] wagnerrp: http://pastebin.com/n33i7NW0
[21:08:45] dekarl: ahh, just add another Fixes # to the commit ;)
[21:09:31] dekarl: the QT time handling is so primitive :( after looking at the code I'd expect the command line parser to handle the offset properly
[21:09:54] ** dekarl mumbles use DateTime; **
[21:11:05] wagnerrp: the change time on that file is july 7th, but i can't find a ticket that seems to make sense
[21:14:16] wagnerrp: can't find anything in irc logs either
[21:14:26] wagnerrp: well anyway, that should be the fix
[21:14:38] wagnerrp: i've got company coming over so i have to go
[21:34:54] stuartm: I thought the 'preset channel' setting ONLY applied to non-tuners? You need to tell the STB to change to the channel we expect to start on?
[21:40:11] stuartm: ah nevermind, I was thinking of something else
[21:40:32] stuartm: still, we probably shouldn't be offering that field for cards where it's not applicable
[21:48:00] stuartm: oops, I should have finished reading all the new tickets first :)
[21:48:48] stuartm: jpabq: thinking of passing through cardtype to CardInput instead of the bool?
[21:48:57] stuartm: bools
[21:51:10] jpabq: stuartm: I had not actually look at it yet. If you want to grab it, go for it. Otherwise I will take a look tomorrow.
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[21:59:02] stuartm: just had a glance at it, I wasn't intending to do anything until tomorrow as it's already late here
[21:59:25] stuartm: we'll see who gets to it first tomorrow :)
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[23:04:32] bl1nd_m0nk: thanks devs for such a product :) hoorray linux. :)
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