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[00:25:20] jhall_: danielk22 are you around?
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[00:27:39] jhall_: I have guide questions
[00:27:44] jhall_: who is the best person to talk to?
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[01:33:07] jya_: anyone knows the arguments to provide to mythcommflag to start it by hand and perform a logo detection? or just start it by hand ?
[01:34:38] jya_: wagnerrp: you seem to be the one who has worked last on the arguments taken by mythcommflag ; so if you have some ideas...
[01:36:07] gigem: jhall_: sphery is probably your best bet for SchedulesDirect related guide details and dekarl1 for xmltv related. FYI, dekarl1 is gone for two weeks.
[01:39:43] jhall_: ah
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[02:18:06] wagnerrp: jya_: i guess '--file NAME' and '--method logo'
[02:18:14] wagnerrp: probably need a '--skipdb' in there too
[02:25:19] jya_: ok… i'll try that
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[08:42:23] stuartm: jya: I did ...
[08:56:57] stuartm: I've refreshed the list which has picked up on the status change
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[10:05:36] peper03: stichnot: #11455 is under your ownership. Any objections to me applying that patch? It fixes a booboo in the patch for #11451 so it'd be best to get it in asap after the first one.
[10:05:36] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11455 **
[10:05:36] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11451 **
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[13:19:40] stichnot: peper03: Feel free to grab ownership of that ticket. :) The only ticket of yours that I have a particular comment on is http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11292#comment:1 . I have a bigger patch lying around that I will try to resurrect.
[13:25:36] stichnot: stuarta stuartm danielk221: I don't see a way to (re)assign a ticket to peper03.
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[13:32:26] stuartm: assuming stuarta set him up with a trac account, the server probably just needs restarting to reflect that change
[13:32:30] stuartm: doing that now
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[13:34:47] stuartm: stichnot: fixed, he'd been given a trac account but wasn't in the developer group
[13:34:58] stichnot: there we go, thanks!
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[19:09:05] danielk221: jya_: https://gist.github.com/daniel-kristjansson/5842178
[19:09:44] danielk221: It looks like with g++ 4.6 array member variables are not initialized.
[19:16:14] danielk221: Same with "Ubuntu clang version 3.0–6ubuntu3"
[19:18:43] danielk221: Same with intel: "icpc (ICC) 13.0.1 20121010"
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[19:26:32] danielk221: jya_: And the plot thickens: https://gist.github.com/daniel-kristjansson/5842257
[19:27:23] danielk221: See class C, there the array is initialized in both g++ and clang++
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[19:28:34] danielk221: The difference is a gave the array an empty constructor..
[19:29:18] danielk221: i.e. a() odd, no?
[19:38:00] danielk221: FYI I get the same behavior with g++ with -std=c++0x
[19:38:18] danielk221: This seems to shed some light: http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_31_0/libs/utility/value_init.htm
[19:40:21] danielk221: It looks like the "value initialization" was introduced as part of the C++ TR1 in 2001. i.e. in the set of bug-fixes to C++98 that compiler writers implemented parts of haphazardly over the following decade.
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[19:43:58] danielk221: The syntax of this extension requires that you explicitly add the () to differentiate it from the default-initialization you get with or without the () in C++98.
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[19:47:09] danielk221: And of course this been cleaned up a bit in C++11: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1852519
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[20:01:58] peper03: Ok, fingers crossed that nothing breaks :)
[20:08:02] xris: you guys see this? http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/22/4454694/dvr . . . ding-feature
[20:10:42] peper03: stichnot: Regarding #11292 – I had some thoughts a few weeks ago as I was preparing the 'context' class. It basically revolves around what conditions are to define 'isInMenu'. At the moment, it's defined as not being in the VTS domain. That works most of the time, but it's possible to have a menu in the VTS domain, and it's possible to have just video in the VMG or VTS menu domains.
[20:10:42] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11292 **
[20:10:46] MythBuild: build #706 of master-linux-64bit-clang is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . g/builds/706 blamelist: Richard <peper03@yahoo.com >
[20:10:55] peper03: Oops.
[20:21:05] peper03: stichnot: Anyway, another possibility is to define being in a menu as any time that buttons are defined. That's easy enough to do but buttons are defined per NAV pack, so they can theoretically change every 0.5–1 second and there's no way to determine when they will appear in advance (short of reading ahead).
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[20:22:51] peper03: So you could have, as a theoretical example, a 20 second menu intro followed by buttons shown for the next 20 second, followed by a short outro. If you allow skipping any time there are no buttons, it would be possible to skip over the 'menu' entirely.
[20:24:06] stuartm: peper03: FYI I was thinking of adding mouse support for dvd menus, just thought I mention it since the subject of menus was being discussed
[20:24:17] peper03: On the other hand, using the 'are there buttons?' condition is insufficient if we don't allow to skip. Otherwise they could never skip anywhere.
[20:25:01] gary_buhrmaster: danielk22: So, my conclusion from your tests is that while some compilers might "do a reasonable thing", it is not consistent (depending on compiler and exact invokation) and explicit initialization is the only safe route for a multi-platform/compiler/option project. Is that a reasonable interpretation?
[20:27:17] peper03: stuartm: Ok. That would require a change similar to the one in dvdnav_get_highlight_area_from_group in highlight.c from[1eaecea6dd] (https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/1eaecea6dd) (if memory serves correctly).
[20:28:54] peper03: Do-able, just should be borne in mind.
[20:29:24] stuartm: yeah, figured it might need some changes there
[20:29:26] stuartm: thanks
[20:29:47] stuartm: hmm, commit hook is no longer setting the milestone on closed tickets?
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[20:35:30] peper03: stuartm: If I remember correctly, the dvdnav_get_highlight_area_from_group function I added *could* theoretically be moved out of libdvdnav (i.e. I don't think it accesses any structures that are not visible outside libdvdnav). Whether that's desireable/necessary given the other MythTV specific changes is another matter.
[20:40:36] gary_buhrmaster: danielk221: Re coverity 700915, your commit 4ca584ae1bce9a3a6ddd4e2df27b9a4930c85010 ( ref ticket #5285 ) states that _tspacket is explicitly not inited. So this should probably be closed in coverity as an accepted issue.
[20:40:36] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5285 **
[20:42:24] peper03: stuartm: Don't want to flex too many muscles too early, but there are several open DVD tickets I'd be inclined to close. There are at least two I'm pretty sure are no longer valid and two or three others that were reported against 0.24, and which have probably been fixed indirectly.
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[20:46:38] stuartm: I'm seeing an issue with buffering on HD channels with livetv, the debug osd show that periodically frames decoded hits 0, frames free is 11 or 12, and at that point the video stutters, this tends to repeat unless I pause and then skip at which point it smooths out
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[20:50:29] stuartm: could be too close to live and is simply running out of data to process, then pausing the decoding for too long so that we starve the output buffer?
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[21:06:19] danielk221: gary_buhrmaster: It looks like the compilers all do the same thing. They don't initialize member variable arrays of plain-old-type unless you add a their name + () to the initializer list in the constructor.
[21:11:28] danielk221: gary_buhrmaster: Yes, I've gone ahead and marked it as intentional.
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[23:44:55] jya_: #11616: nice locks in there, every single thread is in wait condition

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