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Friday, May 31st, 2013, 00:03 UTC
[00:03:34] gary_buhrmaster: danielk22: Thanks for looking at it. As I said, I did not do any research, so sorry if this is extra work.
[00:20:54] wagnerrp: and 'find' has no '-n' parameter
[00:22:54] wagnerrp: huh... gnu find doesn't seem to have an '-n' parameter either
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[02:50:58] wagnerrp: does anyone know if there are any issues with using a non-integer value for a schema update?
[02:51:17] wagnerrp: not for use in production, but for a development branch
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[03:48:47] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: There is at least one toInt conversion in the code(s).
[03:49:30] wagnerrp: yeah, to determine "X number of updates behind"
[03:49:32] wagnerrp: which is my concern
[03:49:36] wagnerrp: would that be fatal
[03:49:55] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: There is also the one to determine if it is a valid schema version at all.
[03:50:09] wagnerrp: didn't know about that one
[03:51:14] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Perhaps in some future "revamp the database schema" future you want feature flags, and not versions (this was the problem with ZFS version numbers).
[03:51:38] wagnerrp: when the oracle and open versions broke off?
[03:53:07] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Right. No longer were versions monotonic, with all features from a previous release available (Oracle released something that was proprietary, and unsupportable by the open version vendors).
[03:55:04] wagnerrp: oh this is going to be a fugly update no matter which way i do it...
[03:55:37] wagnerrp: i've got to break out the hostnames from fields that previously contained "tag[-host]"
[03:55:44] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: So now, version 1000 is considered a "flag day", where the version will be fixed at 1000, and there will be feature flags for all new features, with the ability for different pools to enable different capabilities. I think even the Oracle people who just happened to attend the meeting thought it
[03:56:00] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: was a good idea (although they could not speak for Larry).
[03:57:09] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Is this for the new housekeeping scheduler?
[03:57:21] wagnerrp: aye
[03:58:09] wagnerrp: insert into `housekeeping` (`tag`, `hostname`, `lastrun`) select substring_index(`tag`, '-', 1) AS `tag`, if(locate('-', `tag`) > 0, substring_index(`tag`, '-', -1), NULL) AS `hostname`, lastrun from `oldhousekeeping`;
[04:01:15] wagnerrp: that should finish off that. now to get smolt migrated over and shove the whole thing into the frontend
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[04:05:09] gigem: neufeld: One of the checks uses the maximum of previous run times to to decide which path to take. Once your scheduler runs a little too long, it will always take the same path because you'll, obviously, never have a shorter maximum run time. The patch at http://pastebin.com/P7Axm4Zq will probably help. It's a bit heavy handed, but I can't think of a better way right now without refactoring all of the
[04:05:10] gigem: sleep related code. FWIW, I actually started to do that refactor a couple of months ago, but gave up. I've put it on my TODO list to take another look at when I have time.
[04:19:13] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: I guess my sql would be more like: alter table housekeeping add hostname varchar(255) null default NULL; drop index 'PRIMARY' on housekeeping; update housekeeping set hostname=substring_index(tag,'-',-1), tag=substring_index(tag,'-',1) where tag like "%-%"; add index .....; add index .....  — but as long as the sql works, who cares?
[04:19:52] wagnerrp: i could have done it in one-shot... slightly less confusing to not
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[04:21:59] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Making it easy for the next person to understand has great value (especially for the next person).
[04:29:43] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: btw, my example is wrong (and I think yours is too), since hostnames can contain a dash in them. And while I currently have no hosts so named, you just know someone does.
[04:31:42] wagnerrp: not sure there's much that can be done about that
[04:32:10] wagnerrp: worse case, there's some garbage left in the database, and that task will be run immediately rather than waiting for it's typical delay
[04:32:14] wagnerrp: so not much harm
[04:34:53] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Well, one could use LOCATE (for the '-') and use the result for setting the hostname via SUBSTR;
[04:37:22] wagnerrp: yeah, i was thinking backwards that the hostname was always there, and there was no way to determine whether the '-' was part of the hostname or the divider
[04:39:51] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: Simplicity says delete the entire table contents, and let everything run immediately again at db schema update time (when things tend to be a little slow anyways).
[04:40:29] wagnerrp: true
[04:40:56] wagnerrp: but then i'll lose this record of a jobqueue cleanup on localhost from 2006
[04:40:59] wagnerrp: :)
[04:41:37] gary_buhrmaster: wagnerrp: It will still be in your daily database backups, which you can archive for as long as you want :-)
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[05:44:16] dekarl: wagnerrp: just add a new, important sounding, entry with min(last_run_time) so we keep the red herring. how about "prepare_fast_{start,tune}" :)
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[06:17:46] gary_buhrmaster: dekarl: Clearly it should be called 'ggEertsaE' a reverse StudlyCaps EasterEgg :-)
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[06:18:49] gary_buhrmaster: dekarl: (I mean 'ggRretsaE'; I am dyslectic in reverse StudlyCaps).
[06:37:07] dekarl: Oh noes, that obviously means "Great See", but I want my htpc to be great :( ^^
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[06:55:32] ** _Dweller found that the plastic insert from a noctua rf1800 fan packaging is exactly the right size to turn into a fan shroud for the lid of the hd-pvr =) **
[07:10:05] _Dweller: pix here =) http://www.flickr.com/photos/bardweller/8898719495/ (electrical tape because I haven't put the screws back in yet)
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[08:38:56] _Dweller: 2hrs encoding with no hiccups yet =) fan is looking like it might be helping =)
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[11:06:27] neufeld: gigem: OK, thanks for satisfying my curiosity with that update.
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[15:34:10] danielk22: wagnerrp: The runtime link path should be fixed for the tests now.
[15:46:15] gary_buhrmaster: danielk22: Thanks for the fix (as I said when I mentioned it on irc, I had not really looked at it more than the error message; now my test builds build fine).
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[16:23:46] _Dweller: interesting.. the 9v battery powering the hdpvr fan died.. and it's still running with no glitches.. suspecting the hdmi cable swap is the real fix here =) (had a spare decent quality one, so swapped to using it instead of the cheap one I was feeding it with)
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[18:07:06] _Dweller: 10hrs of streaming with no glitches =) this is a record for my hd pvr =)
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[20:27:07] peper03: stuartm, natanojl: The patches I just attached to #9429 and #11376 are based on my local branch, so they might not apply without the patches from #11451 and #11455
[20:27:07] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9429 **
[20:27:07] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11376 **
[20:27:07] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11451 **
[20:27:07] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11455 **
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[20:45:51] danielk222: codepad.org
[20:46:16] danielk222: umm, ignore that, wrong window.
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[21:05:32] skd5aner: has anyone proposed a targetted release date/window yet?
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[21:25:36] _Dweller: well.. that's pretty much an entire day streaming from the hd pvr with no glitches =) even swapped back to optical and it's rock solid =)
[21:27:16] _Dweller: next to add just enough stuff to let it change channels, use xmltv data, and check imdb ratings & an already recorded list =)
[21:28:06] _Dweller: eventually this widget will just be able to sit there all night / all day when I'm not using the set top box, recording movies =)
[21:28:54] _Dweller: thanks danielk222 / jpabq for your help =) has been very handy having a different linux project using the hd pvr to act as a reference
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[21:42:38] natanojl: peper03: Thanks! I'll see if I can try it out during the weekend
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[22:22:47] gigem: skd5aner: Yes, sometime in July has been proposed. There was general support for it when it first came up, but that was 6 weeks ago. Sentiments might have changed now that the would-be feature freeze is nearer.
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