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Monday, May 20th, 2013, 16:13 UTC
[16:13:31] sphery: dekarl: mind if I take #11512 (add default recording template support to mythweb)? It's not a complete patch--misses 2 other areas--and I was going to backport to 0.26-fixes since users have started poking the old setting value in their db's
[16:13:31] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11512 **
[16:13:58] sphery: I actually have some time to work on MythTV, finally
[16:18:50] sphery: oh, and fwiw, I already have the settings removal part, so just need to put the settings-setting part in for the 2 places the patch misses
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[16:38:33] dekarl: sphery: feel free to take it, i just claimed it as I was talking about it with paul lately
[16:39:38] dekarl: actually I wanted to commit to master's dbcheck an update to remove the old values once everything has been moved to templates
[16:39:49] sphery: thanks. I've been meaning to take it since I guilted paul into writing the patch for me, but have been traveling way too much for work
[16:41:37] sphery: I'd say if we're going to do setting value removal, someone should come up with a list and put the list in a comment at the bottom of dbcheck.cpp's doUpgradeTVDatabaseSchema(), and I'll remove all the values in the list in a single version change just before I do the initial DB schema rollup before release
[16:42:07] sphery: and note that there are tons (literally many tens) of old, no-longer-used settings values that we've never taken out
[16:42:34] sphery: I, personally, like leaving them in so that people who do direct DB editing of settings have to actually know what they're doing and/or look at the code
[16:43:00] sphery: but I would be happy to clean them up if that's the approach others want to take
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[16:57:33] dekarl: I'd like to clean them up sometime to get them out of the way when debugging stuff. (And so that stuff breaks early when the setting is still used somewhere)
[17:05:07] sphery: well, FWIW, we knew that this one wasn't removed from MythWeb, but expected someone to get around to putting in template support long ago so we figured we'd leave the old code there "for a short time", but people started recommending direct DB editing to poke the old value in (so, in hindsight, we'd have been better off just removing the code to encourage someone to do the right thing)
[17:05:47] sphery: generally, when a setting is removed, we do a good job of removing it completely through grep'ing the code
[17:07:16] sphery: anyway, either approach is fine with me... but I do recommend a single db update per cycle rather than one per setting
[17:44:54] bobweaver: Is there any way to get some xml from the themes ftp site ?
[17:48:33] bobweaver: what i mean is there any xml or json api for the themes that bring back a page like this one ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mythtv/themes/trunk/ but with more data (screens author info ect )
[17:52:17] bobweaver: NM I found it http://themes.mythtv.org/themes/repository/tr . . . hemeinfo.xml Just kinda wish that I could get a full spread
[17:56:16] bobweaver: Like so the path would be something like http://themes.mythtv.org/themes/repository/tr . . . hemeinfo.xml
[18:14:29] dekarl: do we have a preferred way of silencing unused parameter warnings? (looking at cppcheck and noticing the node=node warning). I see (void)parameter in the code, qt has Q_UNUSED but the safest way appears to be simply to remove the parameter name, leaving only the type.
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[18:29:12] dekarl: been looking at various pages and liked the reasoning over at http://www.semipol.de/archives/271
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[19:15:49] sphery: bobweaver: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . ser.cpp#L226 ?
[19:17:57] bobweaver: sphery, yeah that would work but not for what I am doing I mean I could expose that to qml with a plugin but the troubles are that the zips are not the zips for the themes and the versioning number is going to be different and what not.
[19:19:06] bobweaver: My idea at this point is to make myown xml file and read it into a list view then use the "id/name" that is either Mouse Hovered or focused and use the model to fill it all in
[19:19:37] bobweaver: But them it comes sown to how many themes am I going to support and how many will be installed by default
[19:19:49] bobweaver: size/themes
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[20:17:35] gigem: Anyone want to bet that Jason Bilbrey was the reason his recordmatch table mysteriously got deleted?
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[20:52:24] Captain_Murdoch: bobweaver, there's no consolidated xml with info about all themes. there is a .zip file which contains the preview images and themeinfo.xml files for all themes for a specific MythTV version.
[20:53:57] bobweaver: Captain_Murdoch, yeah I am seeing that I made my own but I am going to have to alter it and do a bunch of junk later on
[20:55:05] bobweaver: Right not it is all about getting default Component's together so that I can use them in other themes and just by using base.xml ect
[20:55:22] bobweaver: working on the buttons for the theme Choosers
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[23:57:44] danielk22: I'm restarting the buildbot again to pull in a change for the qt5 builder..
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[23:59:11] danielk22: MythBuild: force build logging-linux-64bit-qt5
[23:59:17] MythBuild: The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts
[23:59:18] MythBuild: build #6 forced
[23:59:18] MythBuild: I'll give a shout when the build finishes
Tuesday, May 21st, 2013
[01:04:55] MythBuild: Hey! build logging-linux-64bit-qt5 #6 is complete: Failure [4failed compile plugins]
[01:04:55] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6 **
[01:04:56] MythBuild: Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/logg . . . qt5/builds/6
[01:54:32] danielk22: I'm restarting the builder again so I can recruit a few more processors for the qt5 build
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[01:57:18] danielk22: MythBuild: force build logging-linux-64bit-qt5
[01:57:24] MythBuild: The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts
[01:59:19] MythBuild: build #7 forced
[01:59:19] MythBuild: I'll give a shout when the build finishes
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[02:11:50] MythBuild: build #7 of logging-linux-64bit-qt5 is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/logg . . . qt5/builds/7
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[08:15:41] stuarta: stuartm: yes i can setup a coverity box. what does it need
[08:16:35] stuarta: danielk22: i'd love to know why we need gdb during a *build*. Surely there is another way of getting the same info.
[08:16:39] ** stuarta adds that to todo list **
[08:20:41] ** stuarta ponders killing ppc builders as they haven't worked for months **
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[11:38:53] MythBuild: build #4 of master-linux-64bit-qt5 is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . qt5/builds/4
[11:49:37] danielk22: stuarta: Yeah that is an interesting question, the command I saw in the logs was opaque to me.
[11:52:41] danielk22: BTW I completely disabled building mythnetvision in the qt5 build last night. It relies on a whole bunch of deprecated APIs and it is one of those things I could never get to run locally so I'm guessing we should never have shipped it in the first place.
[11:53:27] stuarta: is that the only bit that uses gdb during the build?
[11:53:53] danielk22: dunno
[11:54:04] stuarta: easy enough to find out
[11:58:50] danielk22: My guess is that it is qmake putting that stuff in. Probably to do something like allow you to put the debugging in a separate file from the binary.
[11:59:42] danielk22: so it is probably driven by the spec file on the machine doing the compiling and that is configured by the distro.
[12:01:26] stuarta: i just looked at it, and it's extracting the index from the library, and the adding it back as a new object section into the library itself
[12:01:47] stuarta: gdb --nx --batch --quiet -ex 'set confirm off' -ex "save gdb-index ." -ex quit 'libmythgame.so' && test -f libmythgame.so.gdb-index && objcopy --add-section '.gdb_index=libmythgame.so.gdb-index' --set-section-flags '.gdb_index=readonly' 'libmythgame.so' 'libmythgame.so' && rm -f libmythgame.so.gdb-index
[12:01:56] stuarta: as an example
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[12:26:48] stuartm: stuarta: for the coverity build you first need their binaries, http://scan2.coverity.com/download, you then run cov-build --dir cov-int make -j2 – i.e. our basic build step just wrapped by cov-build
[12:27:52] stuartm: it writes the results to the cov-int folder, after the build completes we tar.gz that folder and it gets uploaded to the coverity server where it's actually analysed
[12:29:16] stuartm: the cov-int folder for mythtv is ~500MB, so if bandwidth is an issue, we don't need to run it for every build, but once a week or whatever
[12:30:03] stuartm: it doesn't compress that much, ~430MB
[12:36:01] stuarta: stuartm: i was more thinking which linux platform?
[12:36:12] stuartm: stuarta: theoretically you can wrap all the existing builds and have them all upload their results, this would provide coverage for all code paths/platforms, but I'm not actually sure how that's done and whether it's a good use of resources, probably better to just have the one (or at most one for each major OS)
[12:36:17] stuartm: stuarta: doesn't matter
[12:37:01] stuarta: i'll do some fag packet math and work out what is appropriate for my build slave to do
[12:38:05] stuarta: it may be that a daily or even weekly schedule is appropriate
[12:43:32] stuartm: thanks :)
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[13:28:11] stuartm: http://scan2.coverity.com/faq#why-coverity-giving-results-away
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[15:07:49] jpabq: jya, I didn't see that discussion. Was it recent? What version is this user running?
[15:10:43] sphery: jpabq: I think the thread is http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/542374#542374 , but the last post hints there may be something else going on.
[15:11:15] sphery: (I didn't check the commit hashes, though, so he may have been talking about a different thread.)
[15:12:02] jpabq: sphery: ah. I don't tend to read emails with versions older than 0.26 listed in the subject.
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[15:13:22] sphery: Hehe, yeah... It would be nice if people actually upgraded to current stable rather than expecting us to maintain and backport to multiple older versions. And users' actively recommending people don't upgrade to 0.26 makes it even worse.
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[15:48:46] stuarta: sphery: do they have a good reason for recommending not upgrading
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[16:00:26] stuartm: think it's done to a couple of bugs which were fixed shortly after release
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[16:00:36] stuartm: s/done/down/
[16:00:46] stuartm: we should get 0.26.1 out there
[16:00:48] stuarta: my babelfish coped with that one
[16:00:51] stuarta: :)
[16:01:23] stuartm: fingers don't always do what the brain tells them ;)
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[16:03:16] sphery: stuarta: yeah, it's mainly because people think that Live TV works worse in 0.26 than 0.25 or 0.24
[16:03:52] stuartm: I'll sort out 0.26.1 and this time try to write down a step-by-step guide for releasing, hopefully I'll not forget a step this time
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[16:05:41] stuartm: sphery: still can't fathom as everyone was so positive about livetv in 0.26 before the release ... guess improving it for some users it changed timings enough to break it for others
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[16:07:02] jheizer: I'll vote it has been better than ever.
[16:07:05] stuartm: then again, not everyone remembers the 'positive' feedback that I seem to recall early in the 0.26 cycle, maybe I'm not remembering it exactly the way it happened
[16:07:09] jheizer: Though I rarely use it.
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[16:12:25] sphery: stuartm: Yeah, and I just don't get the "I won't upgrade because something might not work as well" approach--especially when it's really just that they're already comfortable with the shortcomings of the old system (meaning they're too lazy to figure out the shortcomings of the new version and find workarounds for it like they did with the older version). After all, it's open source, so if it's really a problem, they can spend some time and ...
[16:12:31] sphery: ... fix it--and if no one ever does that, it can't ever get better.
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