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Saturday, April 6th, 2013, 00:35 UTC
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[08:57:40] dekarl1: stuartm, i put you on cc when i saw the testfile
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[09:03:13] xris: hmm, mythweb recording settings for max-recordings are messed up.
[09:03:25] xris: and it just deleted a ton of my kid's fav shows. not good.
[09:04:22] stuartm: I wasn't quite awake, I saw the problem in the testfile, in fact I expected to find exactly what I did find but somehow still 'closed' the issue with the wrong summary (initially anyway)
[09:08:27] peper03: gary_buhrmaster: It was to the libdvdnav mailing list. There is a workaround for 'broken' DVDs to set the still timer. In my opinion, those DVDs aren't broken. Removing the workaround would mean that applications using libdvdnav would need to be changed to handle that case themselves, which makes it a bit more complicated than just "there's a bug, here's a patch that fixes it".
[09:09:53] xris: annoying that the max-recordings thing doesn't honor the deleted recgroup
[09:10:58] peper03: gary_buhrmaster: I've been trying to keep an eye on the libdvdnav fork. As you say, there was an initial flurry of activity and now it's gone quiet. Since the initial activity included refactoring and the like, it's not always easy to work out what's a bugfix and what's just a bit of tidy-up.
[09:33:32] dekarl: I asume when I add a users smtp address to CC in a trac ticket it will be hidden, too
[09:34:15] dekarl: is that correct?
[09:59:56] gary_buhrmaster: peper03: re: workaround. Well, breaking existing apps is clearly a non-starter, so the workaround probably needs to stay in place.
[10:02:29] gary_buhrmaster: peper03: You might try sending an email to the new fork group to ask if a patch that added a new option setting (allowing you to enable/disable the workaround) would be accepted.
[10:04:39] dekarl: FYI, smtp addresses in CC are hidden equaly well
[10:05:55] stuartm: dekarl: hidden to everyone except devs/triagers
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[10:08:59] dekarl: stuartm, "protected from spam harvesters" would likely be a better description.
[10:09:57] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: "hidden" is relative. With the consolidation of most (including my public email self) to a few of the larger email providers, one has a fair chance of guessing the @<name>.
[10:12:18] stuartm: I've given up trying to hide my email(s), I just use spam filters
[10:16:03] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: Agreed. While misquoted in the media (and I may be misquoting it too), Scott McNealy had it right: "You have zero privacy anyway. Get over it."
[10:18:06] stuartm: heh, well I still go to great lengths to protect my privacy, but my email address isn't something I consider private in quite the same way as where I live, who my friends are and what websites I like to visit
[10:19:24] stuartm: I mean there is a reason why I don't use gmail (or any other free webmail), the content of my emails is private
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[10:36:09] gary_buhrmaster: stuartm: I have other domains and emails (and personal email servers) for other hats. But if I am posting on a public list, hiding my email address (or content of the email) is not something I worry about (or could control anyway).
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[12:55:20] bergqvistjl1: Is there anyone here who can walk me through an LIRC setup on Arch Linux (Media centre remote, with devinput – I think)? I'm tearing my hair out
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[13:27:15] wagnerrp: bergqvistjl1: this is the development channel. you want #mythtv-users
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[13:41:57] stichnot: jya_: I finally got a chance to look at the latest ffmpeg in master, and I don't see any problems. Particularly with Live TV on the PVR-xxx card, which is something that broke in the past.
[13:45:24] stichnot: Seeker: I looked at your mkv sample in the latest Master. Skipping forward (by 30 seconds) and backward (by 8 seconds) were both reasonably fast. Seeking to a specific location (e.g. 2 5 INFO) was instantaneous. Skipping by chapter was slow. Seeking for mkv files is basically entirely in the ffmpeg code.
[13:46:12] Seeker: yeah, on master forward / back small skips were instant apart from once I think . I'm just not sure why chapter skipping is slow when it works perfectly well in VLC and XBMC
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[17:39:29] stuartm: paul-h: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/05/bskyb . . . subscribers/
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[17:41:16] paul-h: yeah, I saw it lot of very unhappy sky users
[17:43:22] paul-h: I had 140,000 stored on the server so I'm still downloading old emails 3 days later :(
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[17:47:29] stuartm: nasty, next thing they'll tell you that you've exceeded their fair use policy by downloading X GB of material in Y days :)
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[18:10:10] paul-h: stuartm: can you remember anything about a script that would visit every Myth screen and take a screen shot?
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[20:39:05] stuartm: only that it existed, and only because you've reminded me :/
[20:39:33] stuartm: paul-h: I think jams might have written it?
[20:42:26] stuartm: paul-h: iirc it only navigated the main menu, so it wouldn't find screens accessed via context menus or on-screen buttons
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[22:05:50] paul-h: stuartm: thanks, jams is the script still available?
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[22:09:58] paul-h: knightr: on the System Status -> Schedule Status screen there is a string like '1 template rule(s) (is) defined' does that mean the translations need updating for that screen?
[22:10:47] paul-h: knightr: tried both British English and American English they both show the same thing
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[22:18:38] bergqvistjl1: I have a question regarding this patch: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/b28041a . . . 9c4ac/mythtv
[22:18:54] bergqvistjl1: Am i to read from that, that --utc and --localtime are now arguments of the patched mythshutdown program?
[22:22:20] bergqvistjl1: Oh yeah, (to Wagnerrp) i've added async to my /etc/exports options in my NAS drive, and i've got no problems so far re. the network getting blocked up :)
[22:25:18] paul-h: bergqvistjl1: yes but you need to use only one of them
[22:27:10] bergqvistjl1: yeah
[22:27:45] bergqvistjl1: I use arch, and I was hoping that the package updates to mythtv, in their repositories would include some of the patches from the fixes branch, sadly not :(
[22:28:04] bergqvistjl1: ever since the daylight savings change, i've been affected by the bug that that patch fixes
[22:28:19] bergqvistjl1: i.e. it's setting my wakeup times 1 hour after the actual time it's supposed to be
[22:28:33] bergqvistjl1: (and if i turn off utc in the wakeup script), it sets them 2 hours after the correct time.
[22:40:31] paul-h: bergqvistjl1: I haven't I used the wakeup/shutdown stuff in a while, I had it working flawlessly for many years but don't have a need for it any more
[22:42:03] paul-h: different devs have different ideas has to how the whole mythwelcome/mythshutdown should work and the result is it doesn't work properly for anybody now :(
[22:42:13] bergqvistjl1: ah ok :/
[22:42:16] bergqvistjl1: that's a shame
[22:42:41] bergqvistjl1: what version did the above patches apply to?
[22:43:16] paul-h: they should be in both 0.26-fixes and master
[22:43:41] bergqvistjl1: ah ok, so if i have (according to mythshutdown --version) 0.26.0 then i should have the fixes?
[22:44:26] wagnerrp: i imagine any time zone issues are the result of the change to UTC
[22:45:09] paul-h: that patch was commited to fixes on 11/21/12 15:27:31 (5 months ago)
[22:45:28] bergqvistjl1: ok
[22:45:39] paul-h: yeah the utc changes are what is causing most problems
[22:46:16] bergqvistjl1: when did UTC change?
[22:46:28] bergqvistjl1: (im just trying to remember the last time i used wakeup and it worked correctly)
[22:46:51] bergqvistjl1: (i'm also trying to remember whether the updates to mythtv on Arch includes the fixes stuff)
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[23:15:10] bergqvistjl1: is there an option when building from source just to build a specific program (Say, just mythshutdown)?
[23:16:17] wagnerrp: no
[23:16:28] wagnerrp: you can build the libraries, and then build that specific application manually
[23:16:32] wagnerrp: but there's really no purpose to it
[23:16:47] wagnerrp: the applications might account for 15–20% of the code
[23:16:53] wagnerrp: most of the code is in the libraries
[23:40:26] bergqvistjl1: ah ok
[23:40:28] bergqvistjl1: damn
[23:40:49] bergqvistjl1: wish someone would do pre-build versions of mythtv-fixes for Arch, like they do for Mythbuntu (correct me if i'm wrong about mythbuntu there)
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