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Sunday, March 24th, 2013, 00:14 UTC
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[00:53:12] skd5aner: stuartm: actually, there was a lot more criticism than that, but I don't need to re-open the subject – it's all been well documented :-/
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[02:19:09] stichnot: paul-h: good point on 10584. I'll have a look at that.
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[03:43:38] wagnerrp: xris: you around?
[03:43:45] xris: mostly :)
[03:44:00] wagnerrp: any chance i could temporarily hit alcor as a mail relay?
[03:44:29] wagnerrp: having some issues with my ISP's outbounds
[03:45:59] wagnerrp: to be specific, after switching the home phone number over to a cell phone, it seems our phone/internet/email service was automagically dropped
[03:46:34] wagnerrp: i still have internet access... for not... but my email account, and along with it my login to their SMTP, no longer exists
[03:48:39] wagnerrp: i've got a rollernet account for backup inbound, and they offer outbound relays, but amusingly they require manual activation of that service through email... :)
[03:52:14] xris: I don't think alcor is set up for relaying of any kind
[03:52:27] xris: well, not outbound relaying, anyway
[03:52:49] wagnerrp: ok
[03:52:55] wagnerrp: i knew it sent mail
[03:52:58] xris: beirdo set all of that up, though. I'm *way* out of date on skills for maintaining mail servers
[03:53:02] wagnerrp: just didn't know how it was set up to send mail
[03:53:12] xris: I think it only sends via mailman
[03:53:22] xris: afk
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[15:40:30] stuartm: current high load on the server is Bingbot spidering the cgit pages, all of them for every branch
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[15:47:39] stuartm: decided to block it for now, they were hammering it from half a dozen different IPs simultaneously and cgit isn't that fast
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[15:53:37] paul-h: stuartm: does the fix on #11383 look OK to you?
[15:53:37] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11383 **
[15:59:32] stuartm: paul-h: I thought there was a reason why we weren't using deleteLater() but I can't think what it might have been, I'm fine with switching it and we'll see if there is any fallout
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[16:03:09] paul-h: OK I'll commit it and see what happens
[16:12:03] skd5aner: browsing some tickets, looks like the OP has requested that #11225 can be close, if someone wants to go do it
[16:12:03] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11225 **
[16:18:06] paul-h: skd5aner: done thanks
[16:18:10] danielk22: stuartm: paul-h: I believe the only reason is that since MythUI is single threaded it it should be 100% safe to use delete rather than deleteLater(), assuming it is being called in the right place.
[16:34:05] paul-h: We could just remove the Qt painter and the problem would magically disappear :)
[16:37:10] danielk22: Heh, I think deleteLater() is a better option. At least until we have the http based setup of the backend and can get rid of mythtv-setup... trying to use mythtv-setup with the GL painter over a X11 on an ssh tunnel is no fun :P
[16:41:20] dekarl: I'm all for removing the QT Painter, at least from the frontend :)
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[16:45:13] wagnerrp: then what will all those poor ATI users do?
[16:46:59] SteveGoodey: wagnerrp: Beat me to the spammers!
[16:48:57] wagnerrp: just fortunate timing
[16:49:01] wagnerrp: been in the basement rewiring
[16:51:57] SteveGoodey: Was the reason for mythtv.org going down found?
[16:52:06] wagnerrp: when was this?
[16:52:31] wagnerrp: or are you just talking about the occasional outages in general?
[16:52:52] dekarl: wagnerrp: use the opengl painter?
[16:53:36] SteveGoodey: A while back, it went totally no comm several times, needed a reboot.
[16:53:57] wagnerrp: no, no resolution for that as yet
[16:55:07] skd5aner: ahhh, the recurring "let's rip out X presentation layer" debate :)
[16:55:17] danielk22: SteveGoodey: Last weekend it didn't need a reboot like several weeks ago. We took it down a few times ourselves as we upgraded software and set up firewalls to deal with a few spammers hitting the system hard.
[16:55:36] danielk22: SteveGoodey: We never did find the reason for the req. reboot though.
[16:55:50] wagnerrp: someone logged some 18k new tickets against trac
[16:56:04] skd5aner: lol
[16:56:29] skd5aner: 18k, better start triaging those now eh?
[16:56:31] skd5aner: ;)
[16:56:49] wagnerrp: the spam filters blocked them all
[16:57:04] SteveGoodey: danielk22: That's a bit of a worry. That handles quite a bit of stuff I imagine.
[16:57:17] wagnerrp: and if any of them weren't blocked, none of them were created against a valid email address, and were blocked by the secondary filter
[16:57:18] skd5aner: maybe someone just found 18k valid bugs, I guess we'll never know ;)
[16:57:49] SteveGoodey: wagnerrp: Good old spam filters, Get them on the wiki pronto.
[16:57:55] wagnerrp: yeah, the mythtv trac application wasn't properly display ads for assorted medications
[16:58:16] skd5aner: SteveGoodey: I've been recommending ZB Block for the wiki, since it only works on php it won't work on trac or cgit
[16:59:36] danielk22: SteveGoodey: Yep. It is an old machine too. We upgraded the RAM a couple years ago, but I'm not sure we want to put any more money into it unless we're 100% sure what is wrong with it.. maybe just hunt for a replacement and make the current primary the backup...
[16:59:59] wagnerrp: (and 5x the CPU)
[17:00:42] wagnerrp: we were maxed out on CPU last weekend during the attack. i'd hate to see what would have happened on the old system
[17:01:03] SteveGoodey: wagnerrp: Hope your rewiring goes better than mine. Totally killed my Mythbuntu box.
[17:01:18] wagnerrp: just phone lines
[17:01:20] skd5aner: wagnerrp: have you tested to see if ZB Block would work for the wiki? I saw some threads that other folks have used it succesfully on mediawiki to block invalid registrations, spam, and other known attacks (and bad IPs)
[17:01:37] wagnerrp: skd5aner: haven't taken a look at it yet, been busy with other stuff
[17:02:28] skd5aner: cool – yea, I know how that goes lately.
[17:03:10] SteveGoodey: skd5aner: Hang on, stop the spam and I'll have nothing to do on the wiki. I'm just getting good at it, or not!
[17:03:41] skd5aner: SteveGoodey: heh... continued employment... for 0 pay?
[17:04:03] SteveGoodey: skd5aner: It's all I'm worth.
[17:04:41] skd5aner: SteveGoodey: I use it on a forum, I couldn't believe how well it works – but I've never tried it with mediawiki and only a few reports out there of those who have tried – but they were positive
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[17:16:27] gigem: paul-h: Thanks.
[17:17:07] gigem: paul-h: You can commit to 0.26 if you like.
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[23:10:35] dekarl: I'm about to clean up the xmltv time offset stuff (inspired by #8217) and noticed that we have a per channel time offset that gets applied when loading schedules direct data. Please tell me that no one is using that. (its documented as a fixup to move the guide earlier/later some hours when only one channel is wrong, but was offered as solution for channels that always run a few minutes early/late)
[23:10:35] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8217 **
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[23:13:55] dekarl: there is also http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/713
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[23:16:05] dekarl: if I understand correctly the east/west channel copy errors are now being fixes upstream and should not be needed in mythtv anymore http://forums.schedulesdirect.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1237
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