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[10:54:17] stuartm: IIRC we don't handle going from interlaced to progressive, the reason being that it's unheard of in the US, but there you might see the odd progressive frame in interlaced content and you don't want to be continually flipping the deinterlacing on/off
[10:54:33] stuartm: but maybe that has been subsequently fixed ...
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[13:39:41] danielk221: I don't know the current state of the interlacing handling. But I know Mark K put some consideration into the current mechanism and it seems to work fairly well in practice & we don't fully trust the flags..
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[14:12:50] Tobbe5178: im experimenting a bit with myth and have some qt questions
[14:13:39] Tobbe5178: to make QNetworkAccessManager and QNetworkReply to work, do you have to use slots and that qt event based mecanism?
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[16:07:25] wagnerrp: Tobbe5178: could you explain specifically what you're trying to accomplish?
[16:07:33] wagnerrp: it's easier to answer such questions with some context
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[18:35:35] stuartm: they want stuff they are intimately familiar with I guess
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[18:44:22] danielk221: I've had some bad experiences with SuperMicro myself.
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[19:02:36] Tobbe5178: managed to get iptv recorder to stream a transport stream from my dreambox over http
[19:02:48] Tobbe5178: still a bit of a hack
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[19:03:52] wagnerrp: why not have the dreambox devs implement vtuner support?
[19:04:55] Tobbe5178: i tried that
[19:04:59] Tobbe5178: and it failed misserably
[19:05:05] Tobbe5178: due to dvbloopback module
[19:05:11] Tobbe5178: on the mythtv box
[19:05:50] Tobbe5178: i have also tried to setup a few scripts with vlc in vlm mode
[19:06:04] Tobbe5178: and that almost worked, but vlc crashes like crazy
[19:06:10] wagnerrp: as in mythtv could not use vtuner devices?
[19:06:18] Tobbe5178: exactly
[19:06:31] wagnerrp: incomplete implementation of the DVB API or something?
[19:06:34] Tobbe5178: i never got it to work properly on my linux box
[19:06:38] wagnerrp: mythtv should be API compliant
[19:06:42] Tobbe5178: mostly lockups
[19:07:22] Tobbe5178: it appears to be working, but i had problems getting the kernel modules to complie properly
[19:07:25] wagnerrp: i know the nessiedvb guy is using the vtuner protocol with mythtv
[19:07:34] Tobbe5178: yes, i read that page
[19:07:55] Tobbe5178: i also had to upgrade my dreambox
[19:08:12] Tobbe5178: with openpli, but still no luck
[19:08:37] Tobbe5178: the code i'm working on now have 2 problems
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[19:09:24] Tobbe5178: 1, i never got the qt http stuff to work so i used commoncpp2 lib instead as a workaround and 2. currently the iptv recorder uses a fixed programid of 1
[19:10:42] Tobbe5178: IPTVChannel::SetChannelByString have a call to SetDTVInfo, currently i just tested to change it to something that exists and i was able to get it to tune to a channel streamed from the dreambox
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[19:11:41] Tobbe5178: also another advantage of this compared to vtuner is that i can still use the dreambox normaly without killing enigma
[19:12:19] Tobbe5178: while mythtv is streaming the dreambox behaves as if it is recording something and i'm "stuck" to channels on the same mux
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[19:13:37] wagnerrp: well that's the general idea
[19:13:53] wagnerrp: if you changed channels, mythtv would lose access to the mux it was using
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[19:14:31] Tobbe5178: well, with my changes i can tell mythtv to stream a channel, then turn on the box and change between all channels on the same mux without any problems
[19:14:37] Tobbe5178: both mythtv and the box works
[19:15:34] wagnerrp: oh, you're saying you're sending the whole MPS over HTTP
[19:15:50] wagnerrp: and doing the filtering on mythtv's side
[19:15:54] Tobbe5178: yes
[19:16:02] Tobbe5178: kindof :)
[19:16:12] Tobbe5178: i use the built in http streaming in the dreambox
[19:16:27] Tobbe5178: it sends a ts based on a channel ref you specify as part of the url
[19:16:47] Tobbe5178: this is basicly the same as tuning in to a specific channel and what you get is a ts stream over http for that channel
[19:17:02] Tobbe5178: and the box behaves exactly the same as it does when you record something to disk
[19:18:16] Tobbe5178: i just need to find a way to make iptvchannel set the right info in the call to SetDTVInfo, maybe i can extend the m3u file with an integer extra per channel and if it is missing i use the default of 1 as it is today
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[19:22:27] Tobbe5178: once i get the recorder working i need to write a script that can retrieve a xml file from the web interface of the backend and convert it to a working m3u file
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[20:19:42] Tobbe5178: i can change channels now with the right serviceid, time for some testing of how stable this is
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[20:28:47] dekarl: Tobbe5178: I'm experimenting with enabling the EITScanner for the IPTVRecorder and have been adding the serviceid to the channels, too. So any work you do is highly appreciated :) Do you have any plans wrt EIT collection?
[20:29:13] Tobbe5178: havent thought about eit
[20:29:29] Tobbe5178: i dont realy need it since the eit data is not good enough
[20:29:49] Tobbe5178: but i did find a document describing some extensions to eit, i think they called it eitplus or something
[20:30:23] Tobbe5178: supposed to contain more info, like season and episode
[20:31:04] Tobbe5178: i can cleanup my code a bit and then post a patch of what i've done so far if you or someone else whants to take a look or test it
[20:32:15] dekarl: I don't have a dreambox so can't really test it. Got any pointer wrt EITplus? The only thing I'm aware of is EIT linking into TVAnytime data.
[20:32:40] Tobbe5178: http://www.teracom.se/Documents/Produkter/Ird . . . c%20v2.3.pdf
[20:33:04] Tobbe5178: not sure if it is specific to swedish data or if it is a more generic standard
[20:33:07] dekarl: looks like tvzon.se data migth come in handy
[20:36:32] dekarl: ahh, so there is the "new" Nordig EIT + TV Anytime and the "old" Boxer custom stuff like boxer seriesid
[20:38:59] Tobbe5178: while testing my changes to the iptv recorder i managed to get my dreambox to reboot by itself :)
[20:43:39] wagnerrp: was that an intentional reboot?
[20:44:04] Tobbe5178: no
[20:44:14] wagnerrp: heh, didn't think so
[20:44:52] Tobbe5178: didnt notice at first but after a few seconds in heard that "plink" sound the harddrive makes during a reboot
[20:49:37] Tobbe5178: now that i think about it, having the eitscanner running in my case would probably not be so good, because then the dreambox would allways be locked to one mux at a time
[20:49:59] Tobbe5178: so using the box for normal viewing wont be very fun
[20:55:00] dekarl: the box is dual tuner? can't one be dedicated to mythtv?
[20:55:56] Tobbe5178: single tuner unfortunately in the dreambox
[20:59:56] dekarl: Someone wanted to add working hours to the scanner, might just let it scan in the middle of the night to fill the guide and start recordings early to catch last minute changes. At the moment my patch need entries for the multiplex and still doesn't populate the guide (but does instantiate the scanner). I'll post it for review once it does at least something :)
[21:00:46] wagnerrp: the scanner is only supposed to run when the tuner has been offline for five minutes
[21:00:58] wagnerrp: it should automatically terminate once someone starts up a live tv session
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[21:05:49] dekarl: wagnerrp: I think Tobbe5178 is reffering to using the tuner outside of mythtv aka directly as a plain old set top box
[21:06:58] Tobbe5178: exactly
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[22:04:16] stuartm: what is it with people giving films zero star reviews and "I want a refund" type comments because they rented a foreign film and were shocked and appalled to discover it was subtitled? On the one hand it's funny and on the other it's pretty depressing
[22:04:42] jya: I found that video quite interesting in explaining in layman term what dgital/analog conversion really means: http://www.xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml
[22:06:24] Tobbe5178: personaly i prefer movies to be in english and if it has subtitles i usualy ignore it, orginal is always best
[22:06:50] Tobbe5178: most of the time you lose things in translation, like jokes
[22:07:23] Tobbe5178: or with scifi movies/series they have a tendency to translate things wrong
[22:09:29] stuartm: Tobbe5178: true, but we can't learn every language on the planet fluently, I know something of 5 languages (excluding English) but none of them well enough to catch every single word in a film, accents or muttering make it especially hard
[22:09:59] Tobbe5178: most interesting things have english audio, atleast in my case
[22:10:17] stuartm: and there are many, many more languages I don't know, but very good films are produced in those countries/languages
[22:10:19] Tobbe5178: but yes, sometimes it is usefull
[22:12:36] stuartm: but it's just moronic IMHO to complain that you rented a film but didn't like it because it was French and that meant you'd have to read the subtitles :) Which was the case I was getting at
[22:12:43] stuartm: subtitles are better than dubbing
[22:13:10] Tobbe5178: yes definitely
[22:13:25] Tobbe5178: dubbing is evil :)
[22:13:38] Tobbe5178: but it is fun sometimes
[22:34:48] Tobbe5178: jya: intresting video
[22:36:49] clever: jya: neat
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[22:41:29] Tobbe5178: the field chammel.iptvid appears to not be used at all, i found no reference to it in the source other than dbcheck
[22:41:36] Tobbe5178: channel.iptvid
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