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Thursday, February 14th, 2013, 00:03 UTC
[00:03:06] taylorr: skd5aner: you should take a look at the recent update to this ticket https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/ticket/2062
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[00:08:55] phanohanover: i am trying to change local backend IP IPv4 but unable to do so? I recently changed my class C from .5.1 to .150.1 Why can't I change my IP in backend? using 0.27
[00:10:49] taylorr: skd5aner: looks like michael may have finally fixed 2062 with this commit http://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=commi . . . fffb6c2acc75
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[01:32:49] danielk222: jya: ^^^
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[03:22:17] jhall_: jpabq: I think I *will* take you up on one offer
[03:23:19] jhall_: and that is to look at the contents of libs/libmythtv/recorders/rtp/packetbuffer.{h|cpp}
[03:23:43] jhall_: specifically surrounding the empty packets
[03:23:53] jhall_: the last function in packetbuffer.cpp is wrong
[03:24:01] jhall_: it never seems to free any packets
[03:24:25] jhall_: and I'm trying to understand what this random key business is
[03:24:43] jhall_: it appears to be some kind of pair for easy quick access
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[06:00:37] jya_: fix for #11159 for 0.26: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket . . . 59.026.patch
[06:00:37] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11159 **
[06:02:54] jya_: will work for master too..
[06:03:04] jya_: Can someone try it with BBC HD recordings?
[06:03:38] jya_: it works with the two samples I have just fine
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[06:19:26] jya_: oh well.. my test can't be that good cause the BBC HD sample I have play fine with the first 1159 fix
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[07:00:46] jya_: well that fix #11356 too...
[07:00:46] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11356 **
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[09:06:34] jya: danielk22: yes, that's fixed it.. I backported that to the version used in 0.26 and it works. same patch work for master. I checked with the BBC HD sample and it works too
[09:06:55] jya: I'm going to wait to see if ffmpeg team backports it to their 1.0 and 1.1 branch
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[09:17:01] Dakon: hi guys
[09:17:17] Dakon: was just googling around, found one place in your code that could be improved
[09:17:19] Dakon: http://paste.kde.org/671120/
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[09:48:05] stuartm: Dakon: thanks
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[12:04:50] danielk222: jya: Awesome! Maybe we should apply just the fix to master for a while, so we can tell the ffmpeg guys, "it is working for us" — providing evidence for a backport to ffmpeg 1.1.
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[13:03:44] stuartm: jya: the BBC HD sample will play, but misses shows a hard to perceive judder every eigth frame, the bigger problem was that the frame counts were all wrong – it lost a second for every 8 seconds played (or one frame out of every eight was empty and not displayed)
[13:04:09] stuartm: just to be clear, that's with the original fix, haven't tried the new fix
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[13:13:00] stuartm: s/misses shows/shows/
[13:15:23] stuartm: Dakon: if you're interested, there are a lot more places where that fix can be applied, just grep the code for ".."
[13:15:45] Dakon: I leave that as an exercise to the reader ;)
[13:16:03] Dakon: in fact I don't really care about your code, I just found it by accident and thought I let you know
[13:19:02] stuartm: sure, np
[13:19:14] stuartm: it's a hangover from QT3 which didn't include that filter
[13:20:24] danielk222: stuartm: jya: This ffmpeg code is one of those places where test-driven development would shine. Then the algo could be safely refactored, especially if you also had an inefficient but obviously correct algo you could fuzz in parallel with the new algorithm.
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[13:29:25] stuartm: danielk222: aye, I'd thought early on that the point of the libav/ffmpeg fork mess was that one group wanted a stricter, more controlled style of development with the aim of introducing fewer regressions :(
[13:30:50] stuartm: that doesn't stop us having our own tests so that we can be sure those regressions don't make it into our releases, not quite so ideal as having it done upstream though
[13:32:27] stuartm: danielk222: did you get anywhere with the QT testing framework? I keep meaning to read the docs and maybe start with something small
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[13:50:08] stichnot: stuartm: jya: I just rechecked stuartm's BBC HD sample in Master against the old 11159 patch and the newest one. Perfect playback with the new patch, terrible stuttering and incorrect position/duration with the old one.
[13:50:10] Dakon: QTest is quite useful for me
[14:04:41] Dakon: so, have fun, get rid of "." and "..", write QTests, whatever
[14:04:43] Dakon: byebye
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[14:07:44] stuarta: he went from friendly to not particularly friendly :(
[14:16:10] stuartm: maybe he was expecting more than a simple 'thanks'
[14:17:54] stuartm: hard to give a more enthusiastic response to a two line patch that doesn't improve or in any way alter functionality
[14:18:05] stuartm: doesn't mean it's not appreciated though
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[14:39:50] danielk22: stuartm: Yeah, there is a unit test in libmythbase/test for the mythtimer. It's really quite simple to write the tests. I'll be writing some scripts to compile and run tests once we have a couple of them. :)
[14:42:19] stuartm: of course, I saw those being committed then I guess I forgot :)
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[15:04:35] ** stuarta tries building with -j10 and a clean ccache **
[15:06:03] stuarta: nice.... 3m23.258s
[15:12:45] stuartm: make clean?
[15:15:27] stuarta: yes, make distclean, no cached items either
[15:15:48] stuarta: that's my new host, which is also hosting 4 buildslaves
[15:16:48] stuartm: lucky git :)
[15:17:20] stuarta: you too can have one -> http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex4
[15:21:04] stuarta: i was paying the same for my old server (an amd64 w/ 2g ram and not properly virt capable)
[15:23:31] stuartm: nice as it is, I don't really need it :)
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[15:24:54] stuarta: i'm saving money by upgrading :)
[15:24:56] stuartm: I get to read books while I'm waiting for a compile to finish, I'd probably miss that ;)
[15:30:35] stuarta: heh
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[17:17:54] peper03: Anyone got any idea what could cause 'AOUtil: audio decode error: Operation not permitted (0)'? I get that on the next audio packet if I run avlib's buffers dry beforehand.
[17:18:29] peper03: As far as I can see, I'm not skipping any audio packets.
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[17:38:06] peper03: Ah, never mind. -v libav gives the reason (should have thought of that before) – "incomplete frame" before and "frame sync error" after.
[17:40:09] peper03: Grrr. So much time spent trying to work around the fact that the !"$^%* NAV packets are filtered out.
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[17:57:47] peper03: danielk22: xine doesn't use av_read_frame, it seems to implement that functionality itself so it can handle the NAV packets any way it wants.
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[20:37:10] jya: danielk222: ffmpeg have backported it to previous ffmpeg, I will apply those patches today and commit
[20:42:28] jya: stuartm: i can see the small judder, but about 30s in the video, it starts to play up, with plenty of video is xxx frames behind audio and audio cut-out
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[20:57:53] stuartm: jya: seems to vary from machine to machine, none of my BBC HD recording ever became unplayable including that sample, but stichnot had bigger problems with it
[20:58:38] jya: i see this playback issue toward the end no matter of the fix I use, or the version of myth used.. 0.25 plays it the same toward the end
[20:59:05] stuartm: for me the bigger problem was the incorrect position, since that meant that bookmarks could be several minutes out and the recordings would even exit playback early in some instances because it thought it was at the end
[20:59:08] jya: though I'm using wireless connection, could be the bandwidth is too low
[20:59:45] stuartm: since stichnot is reporting the position/judder fixed with your latest patch it's all academic
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[21:02:06] jya: well, we can thank Paul Gardiner for that one. He's the one who actually analysed the problem and submitted a fix. FFmpeg folks fixing it from a different angle. But without him pointing out the problem, wouldn't have been found
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[21:10:52] gigem: jya: How much trouble would it be to add s/pdif* for mixer control? I don't want to use software mixing, but having Myth be able to do the muting would be nice.
[21:11:27] jya: well, a mixer control as far as myth is concerned is something that can change the volume
[21:11:39] jya: muting is really, setting volume to 0
[21:12:09] jya: why not use software control? if you have the volume set to 100 it will have no impact on the quality of the audio
[21:12:53] gigem: Hmm. I used alsamixer to see if muting would work and it did. I didn't consider changing volumen though.
[21:13:43] gigem: I might try that. How much CPU does the audio decoding take?
[21:13:57] jya: very little
[21:14:21] gigem: Okay. Thanks.
[21:14:29] jya: the slowest part is the floatting point conversion, and that's all hardware accelerated
[21:14:47] jya: do you ever use timestretch or upmixing ?
[21:15:30] gigem: Yeah, I use timestretch a lot, so I guess I'm already doing the decoding in many cases. :)
[21:15:34] jya: remember, that it's only if you change the volume to something different to 100% that it will decode the audio, apply processing, re-encode… otherwise it stays as-is
[21:15:38] jya: well there you go.
[21:15:50] jya: software volume is then just a tiny loop over that
[21:16:21] jya: you're already doing the decoding
[21:17:07] gigem: Yeah, I hadn't thought of it that way. Again, thanks. I think that will work just as well.
[21:17:51] gigem: jya: Now, would like to tackle an LIRC problem? :) That one is really kicking my butt.
[21:18:18] jya: but yeah… being able to mute and nothing else could be useful regardless. But it's hard to be motivated when 1)I won't use it, and 2) there's an alternative solution
[21:18:44] gigem: Understood.
[21:19:27] jya: not sure I'll be able to help… I've been wanting to do plenty of things on myth, but the lack of time over the past few months have been difficult to deal with. Good luck, I'm moving back in my house in a week
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[21:26:44] gigem: I was just kidding about you helping on the lirc problem. It is kicking my butt, though.
[21:30:42] stuartm: jya: actually in master muting really is muting and not just setting the volume to zero
[21:31:09] stuartm: the alsa api provided a proper way to 'mute' we just weren't using it
[21:31:44] stuartm: but I've no idea if that applies to s/pdif and other digital channels
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[22:00:29] gigem: stuartm: I believe it works. At least muting with alsamixer worked when I tried it a couple of days ago.
[22:05:31] stuartm: gigem: ok, guess I could take a look at the api/alsamixer source then and implement it, assuming it doesn't already work (not sure I've ever tried it)
[22:12:52] gigem: stuartm: I gave it a very quick and dirty try last weekend to have Myth do the muting, but it didn't work. It was probably my code, though. If alsamixer can do it, there's no reason Myth couldn't do it too.
[22:16:55] jya: stuartm: the problem isn't just alsa, we have over 6 audio architecture to support
[22:19:33] taylorr: does anyone know of a reason why doing local or storage video scanning would not work on a laptop running both frontend and backend as root?
[22:20:48] stuartm: jya: I'd just stub out the others (if even necessary), so few people use jack etc that it's not really worth the effort – I can't test dx or Core audio but if was important to anyone using those platforms they can add it later
[22:21:20] jya: or they can just use software muxer...
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[22:57:26] stichnot: jpabq: Even with the latest HDPVR recorder fixes, I still see the "drift" in keyframe number identification between the recorder and mythcommflag --rebuild. This happens on every test recording I've looked at. I have very little idea how to track down the discrepancy. Are you interested in looking at a 40MB 1-minute sample? It sounded like you aren't seeing this problem.
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[22:58:29] stichnot: jpabq: btw, I repeated the test on a 720p ATSC channel. The keyframe numbers were always consistent, though the file offsets were sometimes slightly different.
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[23:45:01] taylorr: stichnot: have you checked the file offsets with the output of ffprobe/ffmpeg?
[23:46:06] taylorr: I can take a look if you send the video sample with the keymaps for both the recorder and mythcommflag --rebuild
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