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| [12:33:13] | Seeker`: | stuartm: Can't remember which log option you wanted me to run with for the interactive TV crashing bug, but here is a backtrace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1441711/ |
| [12:34:41] | stuartm: | Seeker`: -v mheg |
| [12:37:05] | stuartm: | won't need the log though |
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| [12:49:47] | Seeker`: | stuartm: anything else I can provide to help? |
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| [13:11:25] | stuartm: | Seeker`: can you try a patch? |
| [13:11:38] | Seeker`: | erm, should be able to |
| [13:11:40] | Seeker`: | might take a while |
| [13:11:42] | Seeker`: | but yet |
| [13:11:44] | Seeker`: | *yes |
| [13:12:08] | stuartm: | ok, give me a couple of minutes to write it then |
| [13:16:27] | Seeker`: | stuartm: easiest way is to use build-debs, put the patch in the debian/patches directory and add the patch name to the series file? |
| [13:18:11] | stuartm: | no idea, never built a package in my life, and I don't use debian/ubuntu either |
| [13:18:20] | stuartm: | tgm4883 might be able to help with that |
| [13:18:48] | Seeker`: | heh, fair enough |
| [13:19:01] | Seeker`: | I'll try doing it like that anyway |
| [13:19:11] | stuartm: | I don't fully understand what's happening in that crash, might even be specific to a particular version of a compiler so I've re-written it a little |
| [13:19:33] | stuartm: | just testing it for regressions now |
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| [13:30:27] | stuartm: | peper03: I've got a DVD iso here that exhibits the "libdvdnav: trying to resume without any resume info set" issue even with the cleanup patch, iff I jump to the main menu (Navigate > Title Menu) from the first still frame |
| [13:30:48] | stuartm: | so it looks like we need to prevent people skipping that way |
| [13:31:28] | stuartm: | maybe you have a better idea though? |
| [13:35:13] | stuartm: | Seeker`: http://pastebin.com/Sd9JKaV2 |
| [13:40:09] | Seeker`: | stuartm: trying to build now |
| [13:41:07] | peper03: | stuartm: Any time you allow someone to perform an operation that the DVD has marked 'prohibited', you've got the chance of skipping over some initialisation. Most of the time, it probably won't cause problems but it's always a possibility. |
| [13:41:39] | peper03: | stuartm: The only way to be sure that you'll never get that problem is by enforcing the user prohibited operations. |
| [13:43:16] | peper03: | stuartm: Maybe we could display some sort of message or icon showing the user that we've let them do something they would normally have been prohibited from doing? Just as a 'if you see that and something doesn't work, it might not be our fault'! |
| [13:43:26] | stuartm: | yep, I think despite the inconvenience of that, it's preferable to actions failing or worse erroring out to the menu |
| [13:44:41] | stuartm: | maybe, but then if it fails they've got to restart playback all over again which is going to be even more annoying than sitting through an ident or still frame |
| [13:44:44] | peper03: | stuartm: I'm torn a bit here. On the one hand, being able to skip all the intros and other crud is great. On the other, there's always that possibility that something might not get initialised. |
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| [13:46:18] | peper03: | stuartm: For some reason, kids DVDs often seem to be terrible for making you sit through several minutes of trailers before you can finally get to the main menu and start whatever it is the kids *actually* want to see. Impatient little ones are not a pleasure :) |
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| [13:49:35] | peper03: | stuartm: Thinking about it, it's probably done for the same reason they put sweets at kids' height by checkouts. The kids see something they didn't know existed and suddenly it's "can I have? can I have? But I neeeeeeed it!" :-o |
| [13:53:50] | stuartm: | peper03: with DVDs I own I generally end up ripping them, obviously requires plenty of disc space if you've got a large collection but with kids I guess it also avoids the possibility of scratched, sticky DVDs :) |
| [13:56:31] | peper03: | stuartm: That doesn't get round the problem of skipping UOPs, unless you mean ripping them to MKVs or whatever rather than ISO images. |
| [13:58:01] | peper03: | stuartm: I'm not sure if there is a good, all-round solution. I think we just get a 'STOP' from libdvdnav, don't we? If we could detect the error more accurately, we probably couldn't fix it but maybe we could display an error to the user along the lines of 'Error occurred. X prohibited operations were allowed that may have lead to the problem'. If the user can see when they've done something that would have been blocked, they've |
| [13:58:03] | peper03: | maybe got an idea of what to avoid. |
| [14:11:57] | stuartm: | peper03: I was suggesting ripping to mkv |
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| [14:14:19] | stuartm: | peper03: maybe a setting hidden under advanced allowing skipping, I'm wary about allowing it and then having users try again if it causes problems, that's the sort of thing that can very quickly become annoying to the average non-technical user who just wants to stick the disc in, press play and everything just works |
| [14:15:53] | stuartm: | I'm sure most users would understand if we told them why allowing skipping is a bad idea, after all they don't get to skip on their commercial DVD players so it's not like we're preventing something they can do elsewhere |
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| [14:17:45] | peper03: | stuartm: I don't think I'd have a problem with a setting to ignore/enforce prohibited user operations. It's certainly tricky to explain succinctly exactly why skipping *can* cause problems (like a one-line error message) but providing the option to allow those operations to those users who understand the 'risks' would ease tension too! |
| [14:18:11] | stuartm: | after all not all still frames/trailers/idents are unskipable |
| [14:19:52] | peper03: | For those who enable the option and have a basic understanding, if they hit a problem, they just have to remember 'don't jump to the title menu on this DVD until you get to this point' or whatever. |
| [14:20:05] | Seeker`: | stuartm: appears that the build-debs stuff doesn't work the the nightly master builds, so going to have to build with the patch manually |
| [14:21:36] | peper03: | It's not perfect but you're basically saying, here's more freedom but it *may* allow you to do something that prevents clean playback, so if it does, don't do it :) |
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| [14:40:27] | stichnot: | taylorr: fyi, I haven't gotten time yet to do more than think about the accurate duration/position/seeking issue, but I'm coming around to your idea of tracking just framerate changes plus keyframe durations in the markup table for simplicity |
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| [15:06:57] | Seeker`: | stuartm: still segfaults |
| [15:09:44] | Seeker`: | 2012-12–15 15:07:53.050041 D [mhegic] CheckFile queue http://www.live.bbc.co.uk/MHEG-IP-Bridge-dynamic/rc/test.rc |
| [15:09:47] | Seeker`: | 2012-12–15 15:07:53.054409 C Received Segmentation fault: Code 1, PID 17, UID -1829181296, Value 0xb2472508b2430020 |
| [15:09:52] | Seeker`: | seems to be the URL that is causing it |
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| [15:20:29] | stichnot: | taylorr: the problem as I see it with my original idea is the extra complexity of "back-patching" the aggregate repeat_pict count once a segment is determined to be finished recording |
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| [15:24:02] | stichnot: | One remaining problem of any approach is to ensure that the markup is communicated to any players in near-realtime for playback of live TV or in-progress recordings |
| [15:27:28] | Seeker`: | stuartm: new backtrace is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1442033/ |
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| [15:31:57] | stichnot: | I'm thinking that the recorder could update the markup table once every ~2 seconds, and when playback of an in-progress recording needs to display duration/position or perform a seek, it reloads the markup if it hasn't been reloaded in the past ~2 seconds. |
| [15:34:12] | bsilvereagle: | Is there a command to gather the EIT data for live tv? |
| [15:34:19] | bsilvereagle: | shot, thought I was in users |
| [15:34:35] | bsilvereagle: | *shoot |
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| [16:02:36] | stichnot: | My main open concern is the likelihood of stuttering when showing the progress bar during playback of an in-progress recording. For that case, we could probably reload the markup table only during seeks. |
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| [16:47:51] | stichnot: | danielk22: let me know if you have comments on my approach for near realtime updates of timestamps in the markup table |
| [16:55:52] | stuartm: | danielk22: since you know more about mysterious QT segfaults than anyone here, any thoughts why we might be segfaulting on the connect() in the NetStream constructor (netstream.cpp)? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1441711/ |
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| [17:26:34] | stuartm: | Seeker`: what version of QT are you using? |
| [17:26:57] | stuartm: | mythfrontend --version should tell you |
| [17:27:30] | Seeker`: | 4.8.1 |
| [17:31:17] | stuartm: | Seeker`: the crash occurs on programme boundaries? |
| [17:31:38] | Seeker`: | stuartm: when starting liveTV on a freesat channel |
| [17:31:46] | stuartm: | hmm, wtf |
| [17:32:00] | Seeker`: | or changing from a freeview to a freesat channel |
| [17:33:31] | stuartm: | 64bit or 32bit? |
| [17:34:02] | stuartm: | clutching at straws :) I've no clue what's going wrong here and why it works for me and not for you |
| [17:34:26] | stuartm: | could be a race of some sort |
| [17:35:38] | Seeker`: | 32 bit |
| [17:36:01] | stuartm: | ok, that bit is at least different to my setup :) |
| [17:36:06] | Seeker`: | heh |
| [17:36:19] | stuartm: | Seeker`: I think I will need the -v mheg log after all |
| [17:36:35] | Seeker`: | have been meaning to get round to reinstalling it with a 64 bit OS |
| [17:36:45] | Seeker`: | stuartm: which loglevel? |
| [17:37:18] | stuartm: | let's say debug |
| [17:38:39] | stuartm: | want to see what state the NAM thread is in, might shed some light |
| [17:41:31] | Seeker`: | stuartm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1442335/ |
| [17:41:51] | Seeker`: | stuartm: Changed to bbc one HD around line 230 in that file I think |
| [17:42:00] | Seeker`: | err, 260 |
| [17:55:41] | stuartm: | Seeker`: ok, try this instead – http://pastebin.com/ZV9ET7g3 – I don't expect it to work but at least I can be sure |
| [17:56:51] | Seeker`: | stuartm: on top of the previous patch? |
| [17:59:38] | danielk22: | stuartm: Dunno, but that connection should be disconnected and then the mutex should be locked and released to make sure we're not processing a slotRequestStarted() as and after we delete the class. |
| [18:01:19] | Seeker`: | stuartm: still crashes |
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| [18:07:04] | stuartm: | Seeker`: in place of the previous patch |
| [18:07:06] | stuartm: | Seeker`: ok |
| [18:07:55] | Seeker`: | stuartm: did it on top of it |
| [18:08:04] | Seeker`: | will retry from the clean version |
| [18:08:21] | stuartm: | Seeker`: well wouldn't have made much difference, no need to try again |
| [18:10:19] | Seeker`: | ok |
| [18:12:38] | stuartm: | danielk22: so just a disconnect call before the mutex lock in the destructor? |
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| [18:19:06] | dekarl: | stuartm, see the second recipe http://www.mythbuntu.org/development/recipes it was considered to wrap that into a web service that provides a PPA with fixes/master + a patch so a patch can be easily provided for testing by mythbuntu users |
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| [18:22:25] | dekarl: | Seeker`: I have only one patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/1442426/ and build master with build-debs.sh and a bunch of patches on 12.04LTS |
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| [18:54:34] | Seeker`: | stuartm: installing 64 bit OS on another drive, going to get a totally fresh mythtv installation, see if i get the same problems till |
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| [20:41:09] | Seeker`: | stuartm: don't know if your latest commit was meant to fix the issue, but it doesn't seem to have had any effect |
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| [20:48:23] | stuartm: | Seeker`: no it wasn't meant as a fix |
| [20:49:35] | stuartm: | it would have been nice if it had miraculously fixed it, but that would have been impossible to explain why :) |
| [20:50:14] | stuartm: | Seeker`: what version of gcc? gcc --version |
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| [20:52:15] | Seeker`: | stuartm: 4.7.2 |
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| [20:55:27] | stuartm: | try this – http://pastebin.com/w2tkvgGd |
| [21:05:40] | stuartm: | you know what, that shouldn't work either, I'll eat my hat if it does |
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| [21:13:27] | jheizer_laptop: | I am nearing a preview release of my web client. |
| [21:13:52] | jheizer_laptop: | Am I allowed to use the "Unofficial/Fan Creations" logo as a icon for my site? |
| [21:14:13] | jheizer_laptop: | from http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Logo |
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| [21:18:12] | Seeker`: | stuartm: your hat is safe |
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| [21:25:20] | jams: | i know it's busted in .25 |
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| [21:25:35] | jams: | ignore that |
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| [21:39:22] | stuartm: | Seeker`: there are a couple of google results suggesting that connect() segfaults are somehow related to the build rather than a code problem, unfortunately they aren't specific about the exact cause |
| [21:40:02] | Seeker`: | stuartm: ah. The debs I'm building don't seem to work, so I've reverted to ./configure && make -j 4 && sudo make install |
| [21:42:11] | Seeker`: | stuartm: on a different topic, do you have blurays stored on your backend? |
| [21:42:25] | stuartm: | Seeker`: rips not ISOs |
| [21:42:38] | Seeker`: | in a container? or BDMV? |
| [21:43:02] | stuartm: | matroska, I stripped out everything I didn't want for space reasons |
| [21:43:24] | stuartm: | main title + english audio + english subs |
| [21:43:54] | Seeker`: | BDMV playback isn't working for me at the moment. Think I'm going to have to go through and convert them all of mkv, seeing as I haven't seen anything that appears to be a fix for the stuttering-on-file-boundaries fix |
| [21:45:52] | stuartm: | Seeker`: it was still working fine when I tested it a couple of weeks back |
| [21:46:29] | stuartm: | admittedly I only tested that it started playing and watched the first 5 minutes |
| [21:47:14] | Seeker`: | 'Player(b): OpenFile(): Could not read first 2048 bytes of 'myth://Videos@192.168.1.7:6543/BD/Wall-e' |
| [21:47:30] | Seeker`: | Peek() requested 2048 bytes, but only returning -1 |
| [21:50:15] | stuartm: | Seeker`: hmm, I also tried it locally not from a remote storage group which I'm unable to test atm |
| [21:50:51] | stuartm: | if you're able to test it on the same machine (nfs if necessary) then try mythavtest bd://{path}/BD/Wall-e |
| [21:55:07] | stuartm: | Seeker`: Wall-e contains a BDMV directory? |
| [22:03:04] | Seeker`: | stuartm: correct |
| [22:03:13] | Seeker`: | just eating, then I'll try and sort out an nfs mount |
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| [22:09:13] | stuartm: | Seeker`: you could start instead by trying -v file --loglevel debug on the backend |
| [22:13:07] | Seeker`: | stuartm: fragment of log is : http://pastebin.com/6C2MD5Z0 |
| [22:14:35] | stuartm: | Seeker`: is this a decrypted BDMV? |
| [22:14:39] | Seeker`: | yes |
| [22:16:01] | stuartm: | ok, I've no idea then, I'll try to test here and see whether it's generally broken |
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| [22:35:11] | Seeker`: | stuartm: plays back ok via NFS |
| [22:35:15] | Seeker`: | using mythavtest |
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| [22:57:57] | ** stuartm is 0 for 2 tonight ** | |
| [22:59:45] | Seeker`: | heh |
| [22:59:53] | Seeker`: | thanks for trying though :) |
| [23:19:06] | jheizer_laptop: | Well, I'll assume using the unofficial one is ok unless I hear otherwise. |
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