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| [00:31:45] | MythBuild: | build #3034 of master-linux-ppc is complete: Failure [4failed install core compile plugins] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/3034 blamelist: Stuart Auchterlonie <stuarta@squashedfrog.net > |
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| [08:55:13] | stuarta: | dammit |
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| [09:53:09] | MythBuild: | build #3115 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/3115 |
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| [10:23:08] | stuarta: | that's better |
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| [11:14:26] | knightr_: | oops, pushed those two in the wrong order, thank God trac doesn't complain about closing then refering... |
| [11:14:38] | stuarta: | hehe |
| [11:15:21] | stuarta: | look on the bright side, at least it isn't code where the 1st patch depends on the 2nd being applied already |
| [11:24:35] | knightr_: | LOL :) There was no risk of that here though, one is a backport (to 0.26-fixes) of the other I committed to master (I can't use cherry-pick because it's unable to deal with the binary files we generate (qm translation files)... |
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| [19:58:57] | stuartm: | what are people's feelings on adding a setting to block mheg from accessing interactive content (http video streaming etc) http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11169 ? I'm not really sure it's necessary and may cause even more configuration confusion and settings overload |
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| [20:03:58] | stuartm: | I was recently thinking of removing the mheg setting anyway, leaving it enabled as it doesn't really affect anyone unless a) mheg is actually available b) they choose to use it |
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| [20:22:13] | danielk22: | stuartm: What is the motivation for blocking? Is it a privacy issue, i.e. can these MHEG apps spy on you? |
| [20:26:51] | stuartm: | danielk22: theoretically, but highly unlikely I'd think, the IC stuff allows the mheg app to request video streams etc, and I believe also supports stuff like participation in polls but I'm not sure anything except video streaming is actually implemented |
| [20:27:47] | stuartm: | the regulators over here wouldn't permit broadcasters to use them to gather metrics or 'spy', that would require the user given informed consent first |
| [20:30:59] | stuartm: | out of interest I might fire up wireshark and spend some time browsing livetv, but I don't expect to see any traffic at all unless I were to visit the iplayer menu |
| [20:37:26] | KjetilK: | just curious: how hard would it be to adapt mythmore to use Bluetooth on server and client? |
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| [22:14:49] | caelor: | stuartm I personally like the ability to disable mheg – it stops the annoying "press red button" appearing on recordings |
| [22:16:59] | stuartm: | caelor: shouldn't appear on recordings, by default we filter out data on recordings and only include it in livetv |
| [22:18:05] | caelor: | ok. I've noticed it on one of my frontends when playing back recordings, but that was before 0.26. If I see it after 0.26, I'll try and dig into why it appears |
| [22:18:36] | stuartm: | but therein lies the problem with recording profiles, people play with the default values and end up with unintended, unwanted behaviour which they don't associate with the changes they made |
| [22:19:09] | stuartm: | ergo, we should drop user-modifiable recording profiles ;) |
| [22:19:26] | caelor: | indeed. I'm not aware of making any changes to recording profiles though, so I'd hope it's not that. But my install does date back to somewhere around 0.17... |
| [22:20:29] | caelor: | as much as my user vote counts for anything, I wouldn't mind dropping the profiles in favour of "good" defaults |
| [22:31:40] | stuartm: | caelor: the LiveTV profile should have a type of 'Normal', recordings should have a type of 'TV Only' |
| [22:33:00] | stuartm: | however that points out a contradiction in the recent radio recording ticket, which implies TV Only won't include audio only streams – which is clearly not how it was originally devised |
| [22:34:12] | caelor: | yeah. I'll check tomorrow, because I've got a window that I hope to upgrade to a post 0.26 build |
| [22:34:24] | caelor: | I'm still undecided about whether to track master, or 0.26-fixes |
| [22:34:30] | stuartm: | danielk22: your comment to http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10920 doesn't really tally with the help text for that setting, or with why the TV Only profile was originally created – namely to filter out data streams such as MHEG |
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| [22:35:49] | stuartm: | iirc the point of the recording type stuff was to filter out streams we didn't want, not to reject recording on account of streams that were missing e.g. video |
| [22:42:56] | caelor: | I know previously the recommendation has been to not run master on production systems (which is fair), but that was because major changes typically weren't done on feature branches. Is that still the case? |
| [22:44:15] | caelor: | I'm trying to get a feel for how stable I could expect master to be on a production system (I'm aware of the risk of breakage, but am trying to weigh that against the value of contributing bug reports back) |
| [22:46:08] | caelor: | do any devs run master on production systems? |
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| [23:13:11] | stuartm: | caelor_: in effect, yes I do, I have what I call a production system running 0.25 (until I find time to upgrade it to 0.26) but in reality I do most of my recording and watching on my development system |
| [23:14:51] | stuartm: | if my development system became too unstable that would be a serious problem, but it rarely does and if necessary I either roll back to an earlier point or it forces me to investigate and try to fix the problem |
| [23:16:36] | stuartm: | I watch the commits going in to master and if I suspect any of them might introduce some instability I wait anywhere from a few hours to a few days before upgrading |
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| [23:53:21] | natanojl: | stuartm: I've tried to modify mythweb's wap template to use jQuery Mobile in case you are interested. You can find a rough patch against 0.25-fixes here http://pastebin.com/HagsbR5F . Got to get some sleep now, going away on a short vacation tomorrow. I'll be back on Thursday |
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