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[08:27:18] stuartm: Beirdo: sure, why not
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[12:37:37] IReboot: stuartm: A few days ago you mentioned that there was a setting to make a recording always start on a keyframe. I check the DB and also tried both the wiki and mythtv-setup but no luck. Please indicate where/how I can find this setting.
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[13:22:42] stuartm: IReboot: I believe it only applies to DVB/ATSC tuners, it's under the Advanced Tab for each card specific configuration screen
[13:23:39] IReboot: stuartm: Thanks. No wonder I could not find it as I only have an HDPVR.
[13:24:19] stuartm: hmm, I might have that wrong as it happens, the setting I was thinking of is actually labelled "Wait for SEQ start header" which isn't really the same thing
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[13:26:07] stuartm: still, it shouldn't be hard to always start recording on a keyframe, we parse the incoming streams so we need only dump everything before the first keyframe
[13:28:32] IReboot: stuartm: aah. I am not looking for that feature. I was looking for a specific situation with the seektable records to make sure I have it covered in my lossless_cut script. I thought the setting may cause such a circumstance.
[13:31:42] IReboot: stuartm: One thing I did notice on at least HDPVR recordings is that a mythcommflag --rebuild or --video generates the seek table records who's mark values are definitely not keyframes. Kind of bazaar values.
[13:32:47] IReboot: stuartm: Night and day different than when generated while recording. The as recording values are definitely keyframes.
[13:33:50] IReboot: stuartm: These comments are from testing on v0.25 but I suspect the same with v0.26
[13:38:52] stuartm: it gets a little complicated with H.264, you can have multiple I-frames per GOP, so one parser might look only for the GOP start, and another might tag every I-frame
[13:40:00] stuartm: further, mythcommflag uses an old parser than mythtranscode --rebuilddb or vice-versa, so they may use different criteria
[13:40:28] stuartm: jpabq is the resident expert, he's worked on the new H.264 parser
[13:44:28] IReboot: stuartm: Thanks for the info. It does not directly effect my script. But it would be nice for better h.264 support at some point.
[13:45:36] IReboot: stuartm: At least with this script I am developing lossless cuts of h.264 for v0.24 and higher should be enabled.
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[17:42:02] jpabq: IReboot, I wrote the parser that is used during the recording process. I actually don't know why mythcommflag --rebuild doesn't use the same one — their must be reason. I may have time to look into that in December.
[17:43:24] IReboot: jpabq: If you ever want an HDPVR example just IRC. There is probable many available on the Internet but whatever.
[17:43:38] jpabq: s/their/there/  — My high school english teacher would be so ashamed!
[17:44:14] IReboot: I never noticed. Shame on me.
[17:44:21] jpabq: IReboot, I have a couple HD-PVRs. That is the reason I wrote the parser:-)
[17:44:33] IReboot: haha
[17:47:17] jpabq: I am swamped at work right now, so not doing much with Myth. Come December I won't have a job, so should have time to work on Myth.
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[20:03:07] Beirdo: OK, time to catch up to emails :)
[20:04:44] Beirdo: OK, invites on the way to stuartm and natanojl  :)
[20:04:59] Beirdo: if they are gonna be generous, I'm happy to be spreading the joy.
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[20:15:09] natanojl: Beirdo: thanks :)
[20:17:38] Beirdo: no prob. You should be able to change the email to something else after you have it setup ;)
[20:49:39] skd5aner: Beirdo: any chance for you to spread some of that joy my way?
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[21:09:37] Beirdo: it only will let me send invites to mythtv.org emails
[21:11:37] Beirdo: it won't let me change the domain, other than to another domain (and not gmail) that I have an email at
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[21:24:33] jams: yep everyone around me has gone digital, but TW still pushes the analog signal so I use it for most things.
[21:24:34] jams: yep everyone around me has gone digital, but TW still pushes the analog signal so I use it for most things.
[21:27:52] jams: heh ignore that
[21:37:03] sheppard: no.
[21:40:08] stuartm: Beirdo: cool thanks, might prove useful for sharing samples or similar, I have some shared hosting with a theoretically unlimited storage and high enough bandwidth but it's nice to have options
[21:44:33] Beirdo: no problem
[21:57:40] stuartm: ok, maybe not useful for decent sized samples, there's a 100MB file size limit
[21:58:01] Beirdo: yeah, you can always chunk up files, but lame limit
[21:59:12] stuartm: tis ok, was just thinking I could provide some samples for testing the commercial flagging stuff that way, but I'll go back to plan A for that :)
[22:00:14] Beirdo: heh :)
[22:00:22] Beirdo: Well, I think I'm ready for a nap.
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[23:23:21] wagnerrp: stuartm: i still need to get around to implementing some sort of restricted access filebin for mythtv
[23:23:29] wagnerrp: intended specifically for that purpose
[23:23:50] wagnerrp: stuff that maybe we don't want public access to for abuse/copyright concerns
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