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| [00:55:50] | skd5aner: | Hmmm, I've got a weird UX to report... if you are watching Live TV, and you hit the "Live TV" jumppoint, it'll actually exit live TV, take you back to the main menu, and then re-launch Live TV |
| [00:56:07] | skd5aner: | perhaps it should simply just be ignored if you are in Live TV, or at very least, just pop up the OSD or something |
| [00:56:30] | skd5aner: | but, I figured it wasn't a big enough deal to report via trac |
| [01:32:05] | Beirdo: | Heh |
| [01:32:18] | Beirdo: | that sounds a bit dumb, doesn't it? :) |
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| [03:36:46] | Captain_Murdoch: | skd5aner, that's probably true of all the jump points, they should check to see where you are at before jumping. |
| [03:37:03] | Captain_Murdoch: | s/they/we/ |
| [03:37:32] | skd5aner: | Captain_Murdoch: yea, I figured that might be the case... I can file a ticket as a reminder of the behavior if you'd like |
| [03:37:57] | skd5aner: | just so it doesn't get lost – but I didn't know if you guys would consider UX design issues a bug or not :) |
| [03:40:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | to me that's a valid bug report. not sure what it would take to fix it, but leaving a screen to jump to that same screen doesn't make sense. |
| [03:41:50] | skd5aner: | cool – I'll get it in there tomorrow... thanks for the input |
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| [04:06:12] | rkulagow: | beirdo: there? |
| [04:07:39] | rkulagow: | i'm now getting the dreaded "Deadlock detected. One buffer is full when the other is empty! Aborting" during lossless transcodes, but at least the memory eater bug you worked on seems to be gone |
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| [07:21:31] | Beirdo: | rkulagow: ah, yeah, I'm here |
| [07:22:22] | Beirdo: | sorry, was off doing other stuff... If it's reproducable, maybe we could get a copy of that recording somewhere so I can test against it? |
| [07:33:28] | Beirdo: | anyways, I'm off to bed. |
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| [13:18:44] | sphery: | FWIW, leaving a screen to jump to the same screen makes a lot of sense to me--I use that all the time in Watch Recordings so that I can go back to the top of the list (because it's /much/ faster than holding down PageUp/Down until I get to the top/bottom) |
| [13:19:10] | sphery: | Not to mention that some may use it in, i.e. Live TV, because Live TV is in a bad state and they want to re-enter/re-initialize Live TV |
| [13:19:25] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: ^^ |
| [13:20:02] | sphery: | (that said, I'd rather lose the capability than have it become a setting :) |
| [13:23:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | ESCAPE – ENTER |
| [13:23:20] | Captain_Murdoch: | :) |
| [13:23:44] | Captain_Murdoch: | although that won't work if you used a jump point to enter to begin with I guess. |
| [13:23:54] | Captain_Murdoch: | actually, it will. |
| [13:24:16] | Captain_Murdoch: | a slight variation. ESCAPE – jumppoint |
| [13:25:40] | Captain_Murdoch: | doesn't matter much to me, we can call it a bug or a feature as long as we call it. |
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| [13:27:57] | sphery: | yeah, I can handle either approach--but just saying that it may make sense... probably not worth extra code to reset or anything (and there is the pagetop type approach, but I don't have it mapped on the remote) |
| [13:31:44] | sphery: | stuartm: btw, I saw your message about the DB initialization, and for now--during freeze--I think it's best to leave it as is and do like we did with 0.25. Once I roll up the schema initialization to the current version, it will work to create a new DB without having to restart. After 0.26, I can look at reworking it. My original plan was to rework all of it as part of converting the schema wizard to mythui, but if I can change it back so ... |
| [13:31:50] | sphery: | ... the wizard does the schema init, too, then delayed settings writes out after that, I may get that part done first |
| [13:32:17] | sphery: | and thanks for taking a look at it, again |
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| [13:40:26] | danielk22: | jpabq: I think faking the range is the only sensible thing to do during feature freeze. But longer term more and more hardware it seems has defaults other than 50% for various settings. This is troublesome because the v4l api doesn't let you query the default. Maybe we should talk to the v4l guys about adding that to the API and then incorporating that into our code (with an API version check of course.) |
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| [13:56:42] | danielk22: | jpabq: Actually it looks like this is already in the API. |
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| [13:58:53] | danielk22: | jpabq: look on approx line 889 of v4lchannel.cpp we query the v4l2_queryctrl::default_value. If this is returning the wrong value we can hack it the same way that the pcHDTV HD3000 value is hacked and report the correct values to the v4l2 developers so it can be fixed upstream. |
| [14:03:10] | danielk22: | jpabq: You can run v4l2-ctl after a reboot and device reset to see what the HD-PVR is reporting as the defaults. |
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| [14:07:25] | sphery: | danielk22: fwiw, that seems to be what Devin said at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/524067#524067 |
| [14:07:52] | stuartm: | sphery: right and in #linuxtv just now, where danielk22 is talking to him |
| [14:08:00] | danielk22: | Yep :) |
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| [14:13:20] | sphery: | Hehe. guess I was too late in noticing the conversation here. Glad you got the info, though. |
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| [14:39:03] | stichnot: | sphery, skd5aner: regarding the LiveTV jump point. The REG_JUMPLOC macro could *almost* work for this. A jump point can be set up such that its key binding is disabled if that key maps to a particular action in the current context. You could imagine mapping the LiveTV key to a no-op in the LiveTV context. Except there is no context that distinguishes Live TV from TV Playback. |
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| [16:34:35] | stuartm: | well there's also a possibly simpler solution, we already have a 'location' attribute for the network control stuff, simple enough to just ignore JUMP_TO(location) if (currentlocation == location) return false; |
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| [16:36:50] | wagnerrp: | dont we intentionally not support the R5000, because its generally used to steal satellite? |
| [16:37:07] | wagnerrp: | and not just because no one wants to maintain the code |
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| [16:48:55] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: I know that is the case for some hardware, but I'm not clear on which it was anymore |
| [16:49:36] | wagnerrp: | well there is the dreambox, which is a hardware unit popular for hacked softcams |
| [16:49:57] | Beirdo: | I think that was the one I was thinking of |
| [16:50:06] | wagnerrp: | and the r5000, which was a USB digital capture that strapped onto existing cable and satellite boxes |
| [16:53:53] | stuartm: | trust Apple to invent their own version of the standard 'favicon' |
| [16:54:15] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [16:57:24] | stuartm: | dreambox was iirc an early french IPTV stb that lacked any sort of security, no longer manufactured but once people discovered their potential for softcam etc there was a huge second hand market |
| [16:58:00] | stuartm: | r5000 I'm really not very familiar with, might have heard it mentioned a couple of times ... |
| [16:59:19] | wagnerrp: | mentioned in the user list this morning, someone looking for a patch compatible with 0.25 |
| [16:59:36] | wagnerrp: | but unlike the dbox, its just a package that you solder onto existing hardware |
| [16:59:56] | wagnerrp: | hardware hack to access decrypted material |
| [17:00:19] | wagnerrp: | nothing inherently wrong with that, except potentially TOS |
| [17:00:28] | Beirdo: | sounds fun, but hardly something we'd want to promote |
| [17:01:05] | wagnerrp: | but i was under the impression the same people who messed with that generally messed with compromised decryption codes |
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| [17:13:29] | stuartm: | it's about to get a lot quieter |
| [17:13:37] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [17:14:33] | wagnerrp: | why wouldnt apple just tell people to use UA detection to send the proper favicon? |
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| [17:21:39] | Beirdo: | quieter? |
| [17:22:42] | Beirdo: | ohh, I see. danielk's change there. :) |
| [17:26:49] | Seeker`: | stuartm: As far as I can see the iplayer stuff didn't make it in to 0.26, is that correct? |
| [17:30:48] | stuartm: | Seeker`: that's correct, ran out of time to review the changes to sensitive areas of code |
| [17:31:04] | stuartm: | but hopefully it will go in early for 0.27 |
| [17:31:42] | Seeker`: | cool. I'll be staying on master, so I'll just pick it up when it appears |
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| [21:11:16] | danielk22: | sphery: Do you have a good idea of the problems with the current delete file infrastructure? Is there a ticket with all the issues listed? |
| [21:12:39] | danielk22: | The things I recall are: 1/ we don't stop recording when deleting a file. 2/ we can't delete files whose backing files are no-existent. |
| [21:14:03] | sphery: | danielk22: I think your memory is better than mine on this one--I had forgotten about #1. #2 should be pretty easy to fix, though. I had meant to have it done by now, but hadn't gotten a chance to work on MythTV for a while |
| [21:14:03] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1 ** | |
| [21:14:03] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2 ** | |
| [21:14:07] | gigem: | danielk22: I fixed 1/ shortly after noticing it. |
| [21:15:04] | ** sphery pretends that's why he no longer remembered 1/ ** | |
| [21:15:31] | danielk22: | gigem: cool :) sphery: Will you get a chance to work on it before the end of the month? |
| [21:17:59] | sphery: | I'm planning to spend some time on MythTV this week. Today was catching up after a work trip, and I did pretty well (only one more big thing left to do), so it's looking promising. |
| [21:19:27] | sphery: | I'll go ahead and commit to finishing it--best way to make me make time for MythTV (and allow you to work on other things I can't do :) |
| [21:20:08] | danielk22: | Cool. :) |
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| [23:49:34] | jpabq: | danielk22, yeah, the hdpvr driver does report the default value. The problem is, that at least in my case, my channel table has already been populated with 32768 for contrast and color. Unless 32768 is suppose to represent the default, rather than 50%, some mechanism is going to have to update the DB. |
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| [23:50:27] | jpabq: | The older hdpvr driver ignored the picture controls, and therefor did not return a default value. Now that it does... |
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