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Wednesday, June 27th, 2012, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:23] stichnot: hmm, I have no idea then
[00:01:08] knightr: what was the cause of that problem a few days ago?
[00:01:50] knightr: my guess is something doesn't get cleaned up properly when my mythbackend fails...
[00:12:13] knightr: thank Jim, I'll try to find the commit that fixed it and with some luck it might give my clue as to why I still have the problem here...
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[00:13:43] knightr: I must confess that I am somewhat cheating and trying to run Myth in a VM (for a test environement) so maybe my problems are caused by that...
[00:13:47] knightr: s/thank/thanks
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[00:42:10] danielk22: stichnot: I don't think the signaling timer issue has been fixed yet.
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[00:52:56] knightr: danielk22, it does seem to be still there... it's probably not what makes my backend crash but I can't restart it after...
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[01:07:25] Beirdo: I still haven't seen that particular one
[01:07:38] Beirdo: and I need to finish cleaning up logserver exits
[01:07:57] Beirdo: oh, and can we try to clean up the overridden methods before release? :)
[01:09:45] Beirdo: heh. my backend's tied up for another 2h, it seems
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[03:01:06] stichnot: stuartm: In [45368f10], httpstatus.cpp:937, you added MythDate::kSimplify. Do you mind if I remove that flag? It's the only instance of kSimplify in that file, and I find the results confusing when I switch to the MythWeb browser window that hasn't been reloaded in who knows how long and so I don't know how to interpret "Today" and "Tomorrow".
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[04:02:28] Beirdo: BTW, stichnot... we still have slow growth. But it's SLOW now
[04:02:47] Beirdo: as far as I can tell
[04:03:25] Beirdo: 10204 gjhurlbu 20 0 636m 56m 20m S 1 1.4 2:20.22 mythbackend
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[04:04:50] Beirdo: we'll see again in a bit. I know the RES is growing, but the VIRT may not have
[04:05:01] Beirdo: which would not be a problem
[04:16:02] xris: Beirdo: going to recompile again and see if I can figure out which libdir environment var isn't getting through to the zmq makefile stuff
[04:17:35] stichnot: Beirdo: of course, we might have had slow growth all along, just no one noticed until the spotlight came on
[04:17:56] stichnot: though actually we surely would have heard from Udo by now...
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[04:23:04] xris: Beirdo: confirmed --libdir and --libdir-name aren't getting passed to the zmq configure script
[04:28:25] xris: might be something I can do about it in the rpm spec, though
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[04:37:35] Beirdo: like let it go to prefix/lib where it's supposed to be? :)
[04:38:26] Beirdo: not sure why RedHat in general insists on /usr/lib64
[04:38:50] Beirdo: but anyways :)
[04:39:21] xris: it's so 32bit and 64bit packages can coexist
[04:39:46] xris: looks like my attempted fix didn't work (grep/sed before compile, which the spec does for some other things)
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[04:43:30] xris: though I think the replacement patterns current used are really dangerous. going to disable and hope that you can figure out the --libdir thing
[04:45:25] Beirdo: 10204 gjhurlbu 20 0 640m 60m 20m S 1 1.5 3:08.06 mythbackend
[04:45:33] Beirdo: yup, still SLOWLY growing
[04:45:43] Beirdo: but absolutely nothing like before
[04:45:52] Beirdo: 45min, grew 4MB. ooooh
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[04:56:02] stichnot: Beirdo: while doing what?
[05:04:44] Beirdo: playback
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[05:29:24] superm1: xris: redhat actually does a /usr/lib64 and /usr/lib32 rather than just a /usr/lib and /usr/lib32 ?
[05:31:49] xris: /usr/lib (for legacy compatibility) and /usr/lib64
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[06:24:22] Beirdo: oooh
[06:24:33] Beirdo: and it went back down to 49m after playback! :)
[06:24:49] Beirdo: superm1: yeah, they did it what I consider the silly way
[06:25:07] Beirdo: superm1: xris: heads up. libzmq in external -> libmythzmq
[06:25:10] Beirdo: right now.
[06:25:24] Beirdo: that way we don't conflict with a system installed one
[06:25:36] Beirdo: it was a bit of a pain, but it's there
[06:28:27] xris: thanks.  :)
[06:28:49] Beirdo: no prob. I hope this cleans up some of the packaging a bit :)
[06:29:46] MythBuild: build #2692 of master-linux-ppc is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2692 blamelist: Gavin Hurlbut <ghurlbut@mythtv.org >
[06:30:42] Beirdo: oh come ON
[06:31:22] Beirdo: did I miss a file?
[06:31:27] MythBuild: build #2787 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2787 blamelist: Gavin Hurlbut <ghurlbut@mythtv.org >
[06:31:44] Beirdo: I'll call that a yes.
[06:31:56] MythBuild: build #2458 of master-debian-stable-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2458 blamelist: Gavin Hurlbut <ghurlbut@mythtv.org >
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[06:33:17] MythBuild: build #3735 of master-linux-32bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/3735 blamelist: Gavin Hurlbut <ghurlbut@mythtv.org >
[06:33:43] Beirdo: sigh
[06:33:49] Beirdo: OK, that should be fixed
[06:33:52] Beirdo: blast it all
[06:35:46] Beirdo: brb
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[06:55:37] MythBuild: build #1258 of master-vista-mingw-32bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/1258 blamelist: Gavin Hurlbut <ghurlbut@mythtv.org >
[06:57:26] Beirdo: OK, now we wait for successes, which should be forthcoming
[06:59:19] MythBuild: build #2694 of master-linux-ppc is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2694
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[07:00:20] MythBuild: build #2460 of master-debian-stable-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2460
[07:00:45] Beirdo: thar she blows
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[07:18:13] stuartm: is number input during playback broken for anyone else? It's a rather strange bug and off the top of my head I can't think of any recent commits which might be relevant
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[07:18:52] stuartm: actually not just number input, menu isn't working either
[07:19:25] Beirdo: works here
[07:20:00] stuartm: ah nevermind, school boy error, I should have looked at the right logs
[07:20:16] Beirdo: hehe. it happens
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[07:24:21] xris: yay, I *think* this rpm is finally compiling all the way through
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[07:31:33] Beirdo: cool
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[07:45:10] Beirdo: here's to no significant (if any) permanent memory increase!
[07:46:20] Beirdo: now I think it's bedtime
[07:46:44] stuartm: as you noted there does seem to be a slight growth during playback, I wonder what that's about
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[07:47:01] Beirdo: but it goes back down when playback ends
[07:47:08] stuartm: probably pre-dates the recent changes
[07:47:10] Beirdo: that's probably just the ringbuffer
[07:47:27] stuartm: Beirdo: maybe
[07:47:38] Beirdo: a 6MB ringbuffer wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility
[07:48:15] Beirdo: anyways, good night :)
[07:48:23] Beirdo: tomorrow is another day
[07:48:35] stuartm: yeah, I'll keep an eye on it, see where and indeed whether it tops out or keeps going
[07:49:04] stuartm: good night :)
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[08:01:23] stuartm: ouch, 'make uninstall' deletes themes it didn't install to begin with
[08:08:59] xris: oops
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[11:05:19] toeb: what do i have to do to get a menuentry for my plugin in the settings menu? Do i have to patch one of the menu.xml files in my install script?
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[12:38:12] danielk22: knightr: Beirdo: The issue is that the logging MythSignalingTimer is still running when we get to the end of the context destructor and wait for all MThreads to exit.
[12:43:41] superm1: Beirdo: thanks for heads up, significant improvement :)
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[13:18:43] danielk22: superm1: Did you see the talk here about issues with mythlogserver permissions?
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[13:21:04] danielk22: The mythlogserver is started with the permissions of the user that runs a myth application. So either mythlogserver needs to be an suid process that always runs as the same user or all users need to be in the group that has write permissions to the log directory.
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[13:28:51] wagnerrp: stuartm: you around?
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[14:04:19] superm1: danielk22: ah no i missed that. how is mythlogserver spawned then right now?
[14:06:47] wagnerrp: presumably automatically by any myth application
[14:07:35] superm1: so it will most likely be spawned by the backend which is spawned by init script on most systems
[14:07:48] superm1: or if there is no backend running, then the frontend user will spawn it
[14:09:05] superm1: alternatively can it just be started by an init script/upstart job before backend or frontend come up and they'll just make use of it?
[14:10:19] wagnerrp: it may automatically terminate after a few seconds if nothing is around to use it, i dont know
[14:12:22] superm1: oh
[14:12:40] superm1: i guess i haven't followed all the discussion and backlog around it, why was it introduced over just using rsyslog?
[14:14:14] wagnerrp: more control?
[14:14:52] wagnerrp: likely so we could maintain the database logs
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[15:22:21] Beirdo: superm1: it is automatically started by any myth app that uses logging, and automatically shuts itself down when not in use (although I need to fix shutdown, apparently)
[15:23:18] wagnerrp: run on each host? can it log to a remote host over the network?
[15:23:24] Beirdo: and it's there to log to the various outputs
[15:23:31] Beirdo: not yet
[15:23:37] superm1: Beirdo: would you be amicable to an option to leave it running?
[15:23:39] Beirdo: it binds to 127.0.0.1
[15:23:45] Beirdo: why
[15:24:08] Beirdo: why would you leave it running when nothing is using it?
[15:24:37] wagnerrp: seems like it could be a potential issue if you have different applications running under different user accounts
[15:24:57] Beirdo: not if thee different users all have write access to the logs
[15:25:23] wagnerrp: backend running as 'mythtv', logging to /var/log/mythtv/... frontend running as 'user', logging to ~/mythtvlog/
[15:25:36] wagnerrp: everyone has to have write access to all potential log paths
[15:26:11] wagnerrp: by running it during init, you could bypass the issue by forcing a specific user
[15:26:17] Beirdo: ugh
[15:26:20] Beirdo: no thanks
[15:26:33] Beirdo: create a unix group
[15:26:40] Beirdo: put the users in it
[15:26:46] wagnerrp: fair enough
[15:26:53] Beirdo: and make the log directory owned by that user and sticky group
[15:27:05] Beirdo: errr owned by that group
[15:27:23] Beirdo: besides, how many people do that?
[15:27:32] wagnerrp: likely not many
[15:27:42] wagnerrp: but it might be more of a concern for bindings
[15:27:51] wagnerrp: which are likely to be used by a larger variety of user accounts
[15:27:51] Beirdo: yeah, exactly. That solution is tested BTW (by danielk)
[15:28:46] wagnerrp: by the way, im planning on keeping a fallback mechanism for internal logging in the bindings
[15:28:51] Beirdo: hmm. well, we'll have to work that out, but really, using a unix group to control access is not a bad way
[15:28:56] Beirdo: sure
[15:29:07] wagnerrp: in the event mythlogserver cannot be found
[15:29:17] wagnerrp: such as someone installing only the bindings, but not the rest of mythtv
[15:29:17] Beirdo: anyways, I gotta run.
[15:29:30] Beirdo: yeah. makes sense
[15:30:02] Beirdo: I don't feel like walking all the way to work, so I'd better go now to catch the bus :)
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[18:18:37] wagnerrp: danielk22: does mythtv now specifically use the 'UTC' time zone?
[18:20:03] wagnerrp: i ask as apparently freebsd does not actually have a 'UTC' time zone, but there is an 'Etc/UTC'
[18:23:48] wagnerrp: making one, and re-importing the zoneinfo database, seems to have made mythtv haappy
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[18:51:47] ** stuartm mumbles something about GMT **
[18:52:26] wagnerrp: the startup test looks for a 'UTC' time zone
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[19:28:55] gigem: wagnerrp: Does freebsd have a GMT or GMT-0 zone?
[19:30:18] wagnerrp: there is a GMT, and an Etc/GMT+0
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[19:45:48] gigem: Well, if we don't care about the few (any?) users who use the "right" timezone definitions, we could possibly get by using GMT instead of UTC when letting mysql do the conversions.
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[19:47:07] wagnerrp: for my case, its easy enough to just copy /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/UTC to /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC, and reload the timezone data
[19:47:24] wagnerrp: im just wondering if different distros are going to show up with similarly strange issues
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[19:50:33] gigem: Okay. I'm pretty sure every Linux distro uses the same data.
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[20:56:57] danielk22: wagnerrp: Ubuntu has both "Etc/UTC" and "UTC" so I believe we could just use "Etc/UTC" instead of "UTC"
[21:23:08] Captain_Murdoch: ditto for my Fedora and CentOS systems.
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[22:01:41] danielk22: dekarl: I'm looking at #10495 and wondering if you'd be interested coming up with a more global fix...
[22:01:41] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10495 **
[22:02:17] danielk22: As I see it the problem is that some of the CRC checks really need to know the pid the table arrived on.
[22:02:46] danielk22: And possibly they need to know if we're dealing with DVB, MPEG, ATSC, etc data.
[22:03:40] danielk22: But PESPacket construction doesn't ensure that we'll always have a pid to lookup.
[22:04:29] danielk22: We should really create a SectionCommon class from which PSIPTable and PESPacket inherit and which provides a factory
[22:04:59] danielk22: method for creating Sections which always contain a TS header with a valid pid.
[22:05:55] danielk22: This means we'll never get to take advantage of zero-copy for single TS tables, but that is of pretty much nil importance and compicates the code.
[22:08:10] danielk22: i.e. get rid of all the current constructors for PESPacket/PSIPTable & get rid of the View() methods and just provide a factory which assembles and returns sections from TS packet[s].
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