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Monday, June 11th, 2012, 00:41 UTC
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[05:19:07] Beirdo: dekarl1: I mean logs posted for debugging should only actually be for one *RUN* of one build.
[05:19:58] Beirdo: if you are reporting a bug in mythbackend, I only need logs for the buggy run being reported, not every run since the log file was rotated
[05:20:19] Beirdo: which, BTW, is an advantage of having one log per run.
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[05:49:37] dekarl: Beirdo: now that makes a lot more sense :) I wonder how one could achieve that without have heaps of previegen logs. Maybe writing a "program is staring" mark and then cutting everything before that makes more sense.
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[14:09:37] stichnot: stuartm: What do you think of this patch? http://pastebin.com/fhap4RFd The intent to allow support for small-caps font style, particularly for CEA-708 font tag 7. (not that any providers actually use that font tag...)
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[14:31:21] voyo: hello, what is status of vaapi , does it work at all ? (Im trying to play with 0.25+fixes , and ATI card. with no luck yet... )
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[15:17:30] stuartm: stichnot: it collides with the textarea 'case' attribute?
[15:18:27] stuartm: there might be a way to combine both without breaking backwards compatibility, I'll have a think about it
[15:23:09] stichnot: stuartm: ah, I wasn't really aware of that textarea attribute.
[15:24:45] stuartm: s/attribute/element/ if we're going to use the correct terminology
[15:25:08] stuartm: an attribute expressed as an xml element ...
[15:25:47] stichnot: I was using the terminology from http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Devel . . . tarea_widget :)
[15:26:40] stichnot: I was hunting around for free smallcaps fonts for quite a while without realizing Qt would handle it for me...
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[16:43:28] stichnot: stuartm: On further thought, it may just be best to hard-code QFont::SmallCaps for that particular font tag.
[16:44:10] stuartm: stichnot: k
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[16:46:21] stichnot: btw, any idea why the "stylehint" attribute of fontdef is there but undocumented on the wiki? I didn't find examples where it is used.
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[16:48:27] stuartm: stichnot: not everyone, myself included, remembers to document stuff as it's added
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[16:49:28] stichnot: sure, me too :) but I was curious where/how it's being used, as it might be useful to me
[16:49:41] stuartm: I'm not sure about stylehint, I'm not even sure if I knew about that one, might have been deprecated before it was even widely used
[16:50:08] stuartm: let's see what it does ...
[16:51:58] danielk22: Wow! icc reports 1470 warnings for the code at the moment.. but someone must be running that compiler on ffmpeg because only one of the warnings is in that code..
[16:55:04] stuartm: ouch, that's considerably higher that I'd have imagined given our pretty clean output with gcc and static analysis
[16:56:58] danielk22: stuartm: It reports issues in headers every time the header is included so for instance DynamicLineArt.h(55) is reported 6 times. So actual problems are probably a bit fewer in # than this.
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[16:57:35] danielk22: err, 3 times, there is 1 problem on line 55 and another on 56..
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[17:19:21] stichnot: danielk22: feel free to send any of the warnings my way for subtitlescreen, deletemap, mythplayer, tv_play.
[17:21:37] danielk22: stichnot: my hope is to set up a buildbot that will forward all the warnings to our dashboard.
[17:21:50] stichnot: ah, even better.
[17:23:14] danielk22: stichnot: Most of the CC related warnings are C strings containing multi-byte characters. Which I guess g++ handles via extension of the C++ language.
[17:29:42] danielk22: Actually it looks like the problem is multi-byte characters in single quotes. For example cc608decoder.cpp:119 The registered trademark is cast to a char and then put in a QChar. The 0x266A for a 1/8 note is ok since QChar supports multibyte characters.
[17:29:58] danielk22: I wonder if prepending L would fix the problem.
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[17:32:10] stichnot: What happens if you use -Qmultibyte-chars ?
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[17:33:26] danielk22: unknown option
[17:34:30] danielk22: Looks like "L" is a gcc extension..
[17:39:22] stichnot: how about -multibyte-chars ? (-Q is apparently only for Windows)
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[17:42:21] danielk22: it still complains
[17:43:13] danielk22: These aren
[17:43:31] danielk22: t even real multibyte chars, just extended chars (128–255)
[17:43:53] danielk22: That's probably why it works with gcc.. it just treats these as latin-1
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[18:15:49] danielk22: sphery: Where is the "daily cleanup" time stored in the DB?
[18:17:40] danielk22: nm found it.
[18:26:42] stichnot: Is Qt supposed to be able to handle .otf fonts on all platforms? I notice that e.g. Steppes includes .otf files.
[18:44:27] sphery: stichnot: yes, ttf, ttc, and otf
[18:44:38] sphery: ttc = truetype font collection
[18:45:27] sphery: stichnot: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 24598#424598
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[18:48:27] sphery: stichnot: ah, wait, you said, "all platforms"--the answer to that is no... It won't work on X11 platforms using Qt without fontconfig support... I don't know if it works on Windows/Mac OS X
[18:48:45] sphery: best I can give you is a pointer to http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/qfontdatabase.ht . . . licationFont
[18:49:39] sphery: that said, it seems that font names differ on some platforms (i.e. parsers interpret names differently), so I've been thinking of maybe adding support for "fallback font face names", kind of like CSS uses... that way you could specify the GNU/Linux-parsed name and the Mac OS X name
[18:51:50] sphery: stichnot: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/3/2011-08-15
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[19:25:45] stuartm: sphery: I wonder if we shouldn't abort if we cannot find the en_US translation, the casual English user might not appreciate that the translation wasn't loaded and possibly wouldn't associate the broken/incorrect strings with an errors we might throw
[19:27:39] stichnot: sphery: thanks. I don't know anything about fontconfig, though.
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[19:32:48] sphery: stuartm: yeah, makes sense to me--it's a broken install if it's missing translation files, so aborting seems appropriate
[19:33:56] stichnot: sphery: actually, that fontconfig message would apply to all font file formats, so .ttf and .otf files should succeed or fail the same
[19:34:43] sphery: stichnot: You would be very hard pressed to find any GNU/Linux distro that doesn't have fontconfig and/or doesn't build Qt with fontconfig support. IMHO, the only way you would see a system like that, today, is if some "let me flip random switches" Gentoo user or some "I don't need no stinkin' fontconfig" LFS user built a broken system.
[19:34:57] sphery: and, yeah, all font loading will fail without fontconfig
[19:35:38] stichnot: The reason I'm asking is that I want to add a couple more fonts for CEA-708 captions (the font tags that are never used in practice, so it's a bit of a wasted exercise...), and one particularly nice font is only available as .otf
[19:35:39] sphery: (or all "adding new fonts for application usage" font loading will fail--Qt will still have access to system fonts, such as Type 1 fonts or whatever)
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[19:39:12] stichnot: specifically (in case anyone wants to comment), "TeX Gyre Chorus" looks like a reasonable cursive-like screen font (or at least as reasonable as a cursive screen font is likely to be) with impressive glyph coverage
[19:39:14] sphery: Yeah, at least on GNU/Linux, OTF shouldn't be a problem... Seems Windows has supported OTF since Windows 2000 (or, prior versions with Adobe Type Manager installed could use them). I'm guessing Mac OS X supports them, too. Only likely problem is the naming issue I mentioned
[19:40:58] stichnot: supposedly contains 894 characters – http://www.fontspace.com/gust-e-foundry/texgy . . . 1918.charmap
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[20:09:47] LittleFoot: hi
[20:09:50] LittleFoot: any1 here
[20:10:06] skd5aner: LittleFoot: yes, but you probably want #mythtv-users, see /topic
[20:10:30] LittleFoot: what card do i get to plug my cable into it
[20:10:59] LittleFoot: i want my computer to serve as a tv
[20:11:09] skd5aner: sigh – please read what I just typed
[20:11:09] LittleFoot: so i can watch and record
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[20:51:28] Beirdo: OK, let's see if I can't make the windows build work right now. (for zeromq)
[20:58:25] stuartm: who's in charge of the en_US translation?
[20:58:39] skd5aner: some dude from france
[20:58:42] skd5aner: or the UK
[20:58:44] skd5aner: believe it or not
[20:59:40] skd5aner: stuartm: actually, knightr_ appears to be
[20:59:46] skd5aner: stuartm: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Translation
[21:02:31] stuartm: knightr_: just switched to it while testing some stuff and noticed a string wasn't being translated – minute(s), wondering if there are others
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[22:03:02] sphery: skd5aner: that would be a French Canadian who's in charge of en_US :)
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[22:24:40] danielk22: sphery: I guess Americans don't give a hoot whether it is spelled color or colour. ;]
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[22:31:24] stuartm: knightr_: I've looked a bit closer, the .ts file does include the correct translation, so maybe the qm is just out of sync?
[22:31:57] stuartm: this is in 'Watch Recordings' where the theme shows the recording duration
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[22:33:01] stuartm: or libs/libmyth/programinfo.cpp to be precise
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[22:33:59] stuartm: same string is shown correctly when using the en_GB translation
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[22:40:00] Beirdo: MythBuild: force build zeromq-vista-mingw-32bit me and my typos
[22:40:00] MythBuild: build #7 forced
[22:40:00] MythBuild: I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[22:41:04] Beirdo: I had 5(commondir)s rather than %(commondir)s
[22:41:07] Beirdo: heh
[22:41:15] Beirdo: that's certainly not gonna work
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[23:03:58] MythBuild: Hey! build zeromq-vista-mingw-32bit #7 is complete: Failure [4failed compile]
[23:03:58] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7 **
[23:03:58] MythBuild: Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/zero . . . bit/builds/7
[23:04:20] Beirdo: buggert
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[23:05:59] Beirdo: I'll continue to slap it around later.
[23:06:08] Beirdo: I hate our windows build from hell.
[23:06:17] hydester: i am trying to test mythtv with fios over firewire. i have no channel guide, so i created a channel manually and am trying to record. is manual recording schedule the proper way? it doesn't appear to record, yet it shows up in the media library but then there is nothing recorded
[23:07:02] knightr: skd5aner, I'm (French) Canadian...
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[23:07:22] ** Beirdo mutters "Quebecois".. :) **
[23:07:34] Beirdo: not that there's anything wrong with that of course :)
[23:07:40] knightr: yeah, that too...
[23:15:01] knightr: many people outside Quebec think Quebecois = separatist so I rarely mention which province I'm from...
[23:15:13] Beirdo: hehe, true.
[23:15:19] Beirdo: blame the PQ and BQ for that
[23:15:25] knightr: yep...
[23:16:13] Beirdo: one of these winters, I wanna go to Quebec City... never made it yet
[23:16:38] knightr: I think I only went there once or twice...
[23:16:44] knightr: (I work in Montreal...)
[23:16:53] Beirdo: yeah, quite a drive from there
[23:17:07] knightr: something like 3 hours I think...
[23:17:07] Beirdo: and that's why we invented the airplane
[23:17:27] knightr: If I have to go there I think I would take the train...
[23:17:45] Beirdo: that would be fun. I used to do Toronto – Ottawa on the train
[23:18:04] knightr: yep, I think so too...
[23:23:04] knightr: stuartm, the qm appears to be OK too so I think the problem is something else (did you restart the app after changing the language? sometimes the language change is not picked up properly...) My supper is ready so I'll check on my backend in something like 15 minutes and get back to you...
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[23:58:39] Beirdo: eff ewe, qmake.
[23:58:55] Beirdo: I'll be punching it in the gut when I get home.
[23:59:13] Beirdo: I just don't get this :)

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