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[01:52:08] danielk22: superm1: was that c++ build meta package ever created? I'm setting up a new machine and was wondering if there is one package to get 95% of the needed stuff installed..
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[02:51:05] taylorr: Beirdo: are you aware of any ffmpeg change after the 0.25 sync and the current sync that would explain #10797
[02:51:05] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10797 **
[02:52:54] danielk22: taylorr: seeks to the beginning of the file causing sync problems is at least a year old..
[03:14:57] taylorr: danielk22: any idea if the latest sync helps?
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[03:19:21] taylorr: jpabq: looks like the issues I'm having with the hdpvr are related to the channel changing script – for some reason it will not tune to some stations... this may have started after my upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04... or maybe my H24 box got upgraded at some point and I'm just now noticing it.... no big deal though since none of the channels that have failed are important to me
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[04:15:32] stichnot: taylorr: danielk22: I am very recently having a problem in Master where seeking back to the beginning of an h.264 HDPVR recording introduces a very strange sync-like problem. As far as I can tell, this came after ffmpeg sync ed69ea820b717cbdfd17ec10c6d78e63f6b6d789 .
[04:16:56] stichnot: Since I bothered to try to pin down the ffmpeg sync, I'll try reverting it and see what happens.
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[09:22:27] stuartm: knightr: I accidentally ran lupdate on 0.25 when I was meaning to run it for master, but the results were interesting ~50 untranslated strings in some translations which were filled in by the heuristics
[09:23:03] stuartm: i.e. untranslated in 0.25.1 but which could be translated just by running lupdate
[09:26:50] MythBuild: build #3875 of master-linux-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/3875 blamelist: Stuart Morgan <smorgan@mythtv.org >
[09:27:29] MythBuild: build #2612 of master-linux-ppc is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2612 blamelist: Stuart Morgan <smorgan@mythtv.org >
[09:29:42] MythBuild: build #2383 of master-debian-stable-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2383 blamelist: Stuart Morgan <smorgan@mythtv.org >
[09:31:01] MythBuild: build #3648 of master-linux-32bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/3648 blamelist: Stuart Morgan <smorgan@mythtv.org >
[09:32:43] MythBuild: build #2700 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile core] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/2700 blamelist: Stuart Morgan <smorgan@mythtv.org >
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[09:55:41] MythBuild: build #1173 of master-vista-mingw-32bit is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/1173 blamelist: Stuart Morgan <smorgan@mythtv.org >
[10:08:37] stuartm: oh wtf
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[10:21:35] MythBuild: build #3876 of master-linux-64bit is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/3876
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[12:42:50] skinkie: hi, is there a way to force the nvidia drivers to get YCrCb 422 output on DVI/HDMI?
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[13:48:56] knightr: stuartm, for unmaintained translations that's somewhat to be expected with the stuff that moved around (especially in MythMusic). We never run lupdate (it's always run by the translators and it is the first thing we ask them to do when they start working on a translation) so depending on how much stuff was moved around (or somewhat duplicated) since they were last maintained it's possible to have quite a few strings recopied from one context to
[13:48:56] knightr: the other.
[13:51:27] knightr: We don't run lupdate because it would very likely cause merge problems for maintained translations and for unmaintained ones it wouldn't actually compensate for the fact that's it's unmaintained...
[13:53:46] knightr: (and the strings that got recopied wouldn't actually be used by the application as they woul not be marked as completed...)
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[14:01:18] knightr: Kenni and I always said that we wouldn't remove a translation even if it was unmaintained since it's a good starting point for new maintainers but I will most likely remove the plain es one (which is unmaintained and was supposed to be used as a lmore generic Spanish translation) since I don't think I want people to use it as a starting point now, the es_es one is now a much better choice now since it is very well maitained...
[14:12:57] knightr: There's only one time I ran lupdate on some of those translations and that was when we merged MythVideo into core and I had to ask the translation which had uncommitted work (and didn't want to get it committed riight now) to send me their complete file so I could merge it and send it back to them.
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[14:48:49] stichnot: I just updated FreeFont and Droid fonts. I think we need to be including license information as well. FreeFont is GPL v3, Droid is Apache 2.0. Any suggestions on how/what to include?
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[14:54:04] wagnerrp: stuartm: we wouldnt have to make all sorts of work arounds for all sorts of distros, only ubuntu
[14:54:12] wagnerrp: since ubuntu is the only distro anyone uses, right?
[14:55:18] stuartm: I do like the suggestion that MythTV should just start killing off other processes on the host system, that's sure to be popular
[14:55:51] wagnerrp: i was about to close with something similar, but you got to it first
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[15:27:41] stichnot: stuartm: I am in awe of your diplomacy
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[16:14:16] hydester: hi, i have fios and looking for the simplest cost-effective way to use a mythtv solution. any pre-built hardware solutions to save time in building a dvr-like appliance?
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[17:00:15] stuartm: stichnot: really? heh, could have used a better analogy and the typo of 'way' doesn't really help
[17:03:14] stuartm: generally polite responses are really the only way to deal with vocal individuals who think themselves to be right (even if they are wrong), they are expecting a fight and giving them one just adds fuel to the fire
[17:09:20] stuartm: of course locking the ticket also helps
[17:09:43] wagnerrp: nah, he went elsewhere
[17:09:52] wagnerrp: opened up a ticket against mythbuntu
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[17:13:56] wagnerrp: honestly, i think he just wrote out that big long multi-paragraph explanation, and didnt want it dismissed
[17:15:29] dekarl: stuartm, wagnerrp: huh? Actually the idea of dismissing an apport report with a click on the remote saying "I'll look at it later" is not that bad.
[17:16:38] wagnerrp: i think its a terrible idea
[17:17:08] wagnerrp: we cant just go off terminating external processes willy-nilly because they're inconvenient
[17:17:49] wagnerrp: as a simple application, its not our place do to
[17:17:53] dekarl: ahh, I think the report against mythbuntu (the project) is a good idea. not against mythtv (the project)
[17:18:12] wagnerrp: as a stand-alone appliance, that IS something the mythbuntu project could do
[17:18:13] dekarl: so its a good idea, but he put it in the wrong bin
[17:18:42] wagnerrp: of course the best idea is to figure out what is crashing, and spawning that apport instance
[17:18:48] wagnerrp: and resolve the issue
[17:18:59] dekarl: aye, e.g. when someone clicks "this is a dedicated mythtv frontend box" in the control-centre
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[17:55:00] Skinkie: hi, going to try it again :)
[17:55:20] Skinkie: does anyone know how to get 422 output out of an nVidia card
[17:55:29] Skinkie: opposed to RGB over DVI/HDMI
[18:01:01] laga: Skinkie: #mythtv-users
[18:01:23] Skinkie: thanks will try it there
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[18:05:03] stuartm: dekarl: right, my comment was in response to the ticket opened against MythTV, particularly his follow up where he made out that MythTV should be suppressing or dismissing the dialog even though it's a process entirely external to mythfrontend and unconnected to the MythTV project
[18:06:00] stuartm: the only way we could do that would be to kill apport when the frontend started
[18:06:51] stuartm: well, I guess we could try and detect the presence of a window in the foreground and try and move mythfrontend back to the front ...
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[18:30:01] dekarl: I like the "figure out why its crashing and just fix it" approach best ;)
[18:39:30] dekarl: Beirdo, I'm not sure I understand "Logs that are posted for debugging should be for only one build..." in http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10598. Are you hinting that logs should be rotated on upgrades of mythtv so that one file only ever contains output from one version?
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