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[00:13:24] jya: stuarta: the greedyinterlacer not building in 32 bits is very new… I had no problem building it earlier
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[01:14:32] stichnot: jpabq: are you saying that the hdpvr improvements should have fixed the strange stuttering issue I mentioned? Because it still seems to be present on recent recordings that have clean starts.
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[05:31:20] jpabq: stichnot, I have not experienced that problem with any recording made since my changes to the HD-PVR recorder. I still see it with pre-existing recordings, though...
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[09:38:22] jya: something is very screwy with my recordings… I've had a dozen rules not working and I can't set it up in mythweb.. validating does nothing
[09:42:10] stuartm: it's interesting that you should say "PCM will only change the volume for the particular application" because that's never been my experience, both master and PCM affect the volume levels of all other applications
[09:45:06] stuartm: jya: db need repairing?
[09:45:28] jya: stuartm: that depends on the audio device you use
[09:45:43] jya: ALSA it moves the PCM bit, and MASTER will move master
[09:45:52] jya: on all the other, it's like I describe
[09:47:09] stuartm: ah, well naturally I'm using ALSA
[09:48:17] jya: I don't get it… on mythweb, I can't modify my recording rule, it just does nothing. none of my changes are taken into account. using mythfrontend -> schedule recording -> program guide. Master Chef shows an "A" in the grid
[09:48:51] jya: when I select it, it gives me "The recorder failed to record". reactivate does nothing, edit options does nothing , and neither Add Override
[09:48:56] jya: it's like a ghost
[09:49:36] jya: I wonder the link between a "A" symbol and the recorder failed to record
[09:50:13] jya: I have other with a "C" little icon, also showing with "failed to record" yet, I can see them recording right now
[09:55:07] jya: creating a new recording with "record at any time on channel nine" show that it's only recording one this week, when it shows every week at the same time.. very very weird
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[10:31:47] jya: ah ! I had two backend process running !
[10:31:55] jya: wonder how could that ever happen
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[13:08:50] stuartm: jya: hmm, we really should block a second backend from starting if one is discovered to be using the same database
[13:09:04] jya: indeed
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[13:10:05] stuartm: for most systems in fact it's enough to block if we discover a lockfile in the config dir, those who legitimately want two or more backends running would configure them with different config directories anyway
[13:13:48] danielk22: stuartm: Yep, I sometimes run multiple backends and it's an absolute requirement to use different .mythtv directories and you also need to put the backend on a different port or very bad things happen.
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[13:22:14] danielk22: stuartm: Applications are supposed to set the PCM volume and leave the master volume alone. This still means that when you start up most applications the PCM volume will be set to whatever the last application set it to but the in app volume adjustment will increase the volume, while if you modify master most applications won't adjust that.
[13:23:49] stuartm: danielk22: yeah, that was my understanding, it was just the way that jya phrased it
[13:24:44] jya: danielk22: myth will reset the PCM value at startup to whatever it last set it
[13:25:49] danielk22: jya: Yep, but other applications won't always do that.
[13:38:16] stuartm: so coverity reckons the plugins are pretty clean and nowhere near as bad as I had thought they might be, ~31 defects but most of those are really minor
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[13:44:53] danielk22: stuartm: That's surprising. I guess cppcheck did a pretty good job.
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[13:50:15] dekarl-too: jya, I've noticed the backend not stopping sometimes, too. Led to two backends running at the same time
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[13:57:35] dekarl-too: I have some apport reports related to shutdown/startup, dunno if they are still useful. In case someone wants to look, its https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/846383 https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/846953 https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/846960 If they are not useful they can be closed. But knowing what they are missing would be good to improve apport
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[14:48:11] stuartm: 6 of those defects are in pxsup2dast.c which is obviously external
[14:53:39] stuartm: jya: mythmusic/avfdecoder.cpp ln 375 which was introduced by you in commit [1e1e5500] can result in a divide by zero according to Coverity
[14:54:24] stuartm: it's reporting the same for audiooutputbase.cpp, audiooutputdigitalencoder.cpp and audioinputalsa.cpp
[14:57:37] jya: stuartm: in mythmusic , at the time I added that line, m_sampleFmt would have always been FORMAT_S16, as that's all mythmusic could handle back then
[14:57:52] jya: now it seems that it supports much more, but that was never changed
[14:58:53] jya: the only time here we would have an issue is if m_sampleFmt is FORMAT_NONE which would only happen if we got AV_SAMPLE_FMT_DBL ; and I don't know of any codec using double when decoded
[14:59:40] jya: having said that
[14:59:48] jya: it's a crappy report
[14:59:55] jya: look at the definition of SampleSize
[14:59:59] jya: it can never return 0
[15:00:47] jya: hum… strike that… if we ever decode FMT_DBL, yes, there will be a division by zero
[15:00:53] jya: but, we
[15:01:27] jya: ll never get there, you woudn't have been able to initialise the audio framework (aka AudioSuperEngine) with double as input
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[15:02:18] jya: for the other class, we can't ever get into a case where SampleSize would have returned 0… only the choices since in the switch/case can ever be seen
[15:07:04] jya: I'll have a close look to see on how I can silence those
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[15:44:07] stuartm: Captain_Murdoch, Beirdo: didn't we set up some mechanism for triggering an ftp resync with osuosl, or am I imagining that?
[15:52:23] stuartm: wagnerrp: I think we'll get the remainder of the release process scripted and then we can make it so that point releases can be done by more people and a little more frequently, whether that's on a fixed schedule or as it's decided that the number and severity of fixed bugs justifies it
[15:53:39] stuartm: release too often and people stop paying attention, potentially missing out on important fixes, release too infrequently and they get tired of the bugs and go elsewhere
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[16:39:36] stichnot: taylorr: Do you have any insights about #10622 and #10623 ? (These are probably duplicates of each other.) 10622 includes a pointer to a good sample where the duration calculation fails. AvFormatDecoder::OpenFile() calls av_estimate_timings() which calls estimate_timings() which calls estimate_timings_from_pts(). That presumably fails because the duration ends up AV_NOPTS_VALUE, which is...
[16:39:36] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10622 **
[16:39:36] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10623 **
[16:39:38] stichnot: ...translated as a ridiculously large duration in the progress bar.
[16:49:08] taylorr: stichnot: my guess is maybe the libav resync might have broken something... but if it has a seektable we should be calculating duration by frames * 1/fps which hasn't changes AFAIK
[16:50:22] taylorr: rebuilding the seektable with 0.25 should use the code we added to add up the duration when scanning the file and store it to the database
[16:50:45] taylorr: but I've never really checked if that works properly or not
[16:50:59] stichnot: taylorr: in this case, I inserted the sample into mythvideo and expressly did not generate a seektable
[16:51:25] taylorr: yes, in that case it's libav that probably is wrong
[16:51:56] taylorr: you can run mythffmpeg -i on the video and see what it returns
[16:51:58] stichnot: ok. I wonder if there's a different call we could make if AV_NOPTS_VALUE is returned
[16:52:43] taylorr: stichnot: does that clip have any odd streams in it besides audio and video?
[16:52:49] stichnot: Duration: N/A, bitrate: N/A
[16:53:19] stichnot: taylorr: no, an AC3 audio and mpeg2video
[16:53:41] stichnot: Should I be concerned about this? [mpegts @ 0x8fc43c0] PES packet size mismatch
[16:53:56] taylorr: weird... not really much we can do besides fix it on the libav side.... of course a seektable should fix it
[16:54:14] taylorr: but seems that the OP stated that creating a seektable didn't help
[16:57:10] stichnot: I don't have any analog mpeg2 recordings on my system, so I was using the 10622 sample as a starting point for these issues. The first problem is this duration problem without a seektable. I haven't tried building a seektable yet to see what the next problem might be.
[17:02:10] stichnot: taylorr: in most cases discussed on the -users list, rebuilding the seek table (with the new duration mark or whatever it's called) fixes the problems. However, users are puzzled (and so am I) about why they should need to take this step when it worked fine in 0.24. However, there are some more interesting reports where rebuilding the seektable still doesn't work.
[17:07:00] stichnot: taylorr: there is a possibly related issue in live TV where (on my system at least) a program change while watching an HDHR recording results in the progress bar always saying something like "0:24 of 0:24", the position and duration being equal and unchanging. It doesn't happen for HDPVR live TV. I haven't dug into this at all, but I assume the cause is similar.
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[17:13:49] taylorr: stichnot: yes, the code that calculates position and duration definitely needs cleaning up... it gets confusing even for me.... you basically have three scenarios.... 1) no seektable 2) seektable w/no duration and 3) seektable w/duration
[17:14:14] taylorr: the code should should be structured around those cases
[17:14:24] taylorr: of course you then have LiveTV handling
[17:15:18] taylorr: the ultimate is for a video to have a seektable with duration and total frames in the database
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[17:22:19] stichnot: so for the problems that supposedly aren't fixed by generating a seektable, it could be a case of the code getting the scenarios confused or something?
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[17:41:11] taylorr: stichnot: definitely a possibility
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[19:02:40] jarle: just to make sure that I don't upload a patch in the wrong format; "git diff" will create a patch file in a suitable format, correct?
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[20:11:16] colonelqubit: anyone use a wiimote with their mythtv box? how does it compare to a more basic remote control?
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[20:25:27] sphery: jarle: yes, that will make a proper unified diff
[20:25:37] sphery: colonelqubit: /topic (you want #mythtv-users)
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[23:38:43] xris: Beirdo: have you tried to compile your latest ffmpeg sync (crystalHD section) with gcc 4.7?

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