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[02:04:19] wagnerrp: danielk22: in the non-extra logged reference counter, there is no %1 in the QStrings
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[12:59:31] danielk22: wagnerrp: You can do QString arg() replacement at any integer. Think about QString("%1%2").arg("X").arg("Y"); it first results in a QString containing "X%2" which is returned from the first arg() method and then the second arg() method works with that string. If it weren't so we'd have to use %0 as the first replacement in all our strings.
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[13:07:10] wagnerrp: it just replaces the lowest value?
[13:17:16] stichnot: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/qstring.html#arg "Returns a copy of this string with the lowest numbered place marker replaced by string a, i.e., %1, %2, ..., %99."
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[14:20:31] jya_: hi.. I'd like to get rid of the constant log message "Using network protocols without global network initialization. Please use avformat_network_init(), this will become mandatory later."
[14:21:04] jya_: where is the best place to call avformat_network_init so it's call once and for all?
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[14:52:36] dekarl-too: jya, does your latest ffmpeg sync unbreak HLS again?
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[14:58:04] jya_: dekarl-too: yes
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[14:58:10] jya_: was waiting for the fix.
[14:58:36] jya_: it was working , was just broken when using URL with redirections
[14:58:53] dekarl-too: cool, now I just need to find a HLS stream that contains EIT to extend #10784
[14:58:53] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10784 **
[14:59:26] jya_: good luck finding one
[14:59:31] jya_: doubt you will..
[14:59:48] dekarl-too: hmm, for DVB-IPTV the EITpf is mandatory
[15:00:07] dekarl-too: might try european stations and see if they your repackaged the same stream
[15:00:08] jya_: but that's not HLS then
[15:00:41] dekarl-too: s/your/just/
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[15:08:16] jya_: if you find one, let me know
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[15:12:47] dekarl-too: I'm wondering how we should package the HLS recording + the stream list + the EPG for user consumption. Should that be part of MythTV? Or Schedules Direct? I don't know, yet.
[15:17:43] jya_: dekarl-too: I was thinking of keeping a .m3u file with a list of known working HLS streams
[15:17:50] jya_: I already started
[15:18:29] dekarl-too: I imported yours into mine and added the xmltvids that match my guide data (france24 and aljazeera, but not nasatv yet)
[15:19:27] jya_: yeah, I didn't import the xmltv because that would also require to use the proper grabber
[15:20:33] dekarl-too: hmm, mixing channels that are supported by multiple grabbers gets complicated quickly
[15:20:36] jya_: weird, the link http://www.avenard.org/files/media/playlist.m3u point to a 0 bytes file
[15:20:42] jya_: exactly
[15:20:49] jya_: so unless we also provide the grabber.
[15:21:02] jya_: i already wrote one that fetch nasatv, aljazeera etc..
[15:21:22] jya_: hasn't maintained it in a while… not sure the state of it
[15:21:34] dekarl-too: where do you get Nasa TV's guide data? Their site is "interesting" with regard to the schedule
[15:21:46] jya_: http://www.avenard.org/iptv/tv_grab_au_tpg
[15:21:57] dekarl-too: aka. is it worth to ask their press service for the data?
[15:22:19] jya_: it was originally written for the TPG IPTV stream
[15:22:32] jya_: but they were the same as what are now found as HLS stream
[15:22:57] jya_: ah, for nasa i was using the one the TPG guy gave me
[15:23:11] jya_: url doesn't exist anymore :)
[15:23:27] jya_: need to look into my svn history, i had my own grabber earlier
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[15:28:15] jya_: right, fixed the URL… ok.. i'm off to bed.
[15:28:48] dekarl-too: night, I'll look at it later
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[16:39:48] seither: does anyone know the name of the irda device that is named afer an animal? gatorled or something like that .
[16:48:46] seither: its an irblaster that works with lirc
[16:50:36] seither: has three modes
[16:51:42] stichnot: seither: Iguana, but you probably want #mythtv-users
[16:51:58] seither: thats it thanks
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[16:56:23] stichnot: stuartm: (or anyone else who knows teletext). I'm looking into #10678. If I understand the spec correctly, text subtitles are only supposed to be displayed if they occur between "Start Box" / "End Box" markers, i.e. 0x0b 0x0b ... 0x0a . The teletextscreen.cpp code never ignores characters outside the markers, and based on extra logging I added, that explains the phantom teletext in the...
[16:56:23] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10678 **
[16:56:25] stichnot: ...sample. Does that sound correct?
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[17:25:05] stichnot: Also, I'd like to understand why TeletextScreen::Pulse() chooses to draw lines in reverse order, i.e. from the bottom of the screen to the top.
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[18:07:19] stichnot: Doesn't it bother teletext caption users that myth draws the subtitle background with a trailing space but no leading space? According to my reading of the spec, there should generally be both a leading and trailing space.
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[19:19:23] stuartm: stichnot: leading/trailing would look better
[19:20:15] stuartm: but I'm not sure how many teletext sub users we really have, many DVB countries have switched to DVB subtitles instead which look so much better than teletext anyway
[19:20:49] stuartm: e.g. decent font and smooth rendering
[19:22:32] stuartm: stichnot: sadly I know nothing at all about the teletext spec, they were already phasing it out here in the UK by the time I took an interest in MythTV
[19:23:01] stuartm: I had no reason to read the spec or acquaint myself with the code
[19:26:03] danielk22: stuartm: when they show old programming they convert the teletext to DVB captions?
[19:32:19] stuartm: danielk22: yeah, the subtitles were always inserted at the point of broadcast anyway, I'm not sure whether they are using the old teletext subtle data and converting on the fly, or whether they batch converted the lot when they switched
[19:34:17] danielk22: They probably have on the fly conversion, they need that for 608/708 data from US sources anyway...
[19:36:17] stuartm: I'll have to check, but I'm not sure they use the US CC data, I've never noticed spelling issues
[19:36:21] stuartm: there's always attribution data shown when the credits roll so it's easy to find out
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[19:38:06] danielk22: stuartm: Spelling could be handled by a gloss. Probably less than 1000 words to be "translated" for near perfect captioning.
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[19:52:57] stichnot: stuartm: looks like I'll have to be the teletext "expert" then
[19:54:02] stichnot: Clearly myth could generate beautiful teletext text captions. Are you saying that DVB subs look better compared to crappy TV/STB rendering?
[19:55:22] stichnot: btw I also think U.S. closed caption rendering on TVs and STBs looks terrible. The only idea I've ever considered implementing in myth is the smooth vertical scrolling of roll-up captions.
[19:59:55] stichnot: danielk22: should we continue maintaining the cc608 teletext code?
[20:10:01] danielk22: stichnot: It's still the only option for CC out of an STB.
[20:10:36] stichnot: danielk22: I mean specifically the teletext portion
[20:11:10] danielk22: stichnot: teletext? I didn't even know we supported cc608 teletext...
[20:11:35] danielk22: AFAIK That never took off in the US, only used for some old hotel TV systems.
[20:12:13] stichnot: yep, it's there, and a continual thorn in my side...
[20:12:57] danielk22: stichnot: no need to maintain that.. :)
[20:13:26] stichnot: ok :) I'll plan to rip it out post 0.26
[20:15:14] stichnot: This is so trivial, but where do we usually announce impending removal of features like this?
[20:17:08] stuartm: minor features like that normally get no more than a mention on one of the lists, -dev and/or -user, plus a line in the release notes
[20:17:33] stichnot: ok, thanks.
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[20:55:31] rhpot1991: Captain_Murdoch: do you have any information for what resolution/bitrate a backend can handle for HLS based on cpu?
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[22:28:26] dekarl: jya, when you record al jazeera via HLS, do you get audio? looks like the recorder does not recognize the audio stream http://paste.ubuntu.com/1018724/
[22:28:49] dekarl: pid 0x0102 should be audio
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[23:02:31] jya: dekarl: i can play al jazeera just fine. and recording is exactly the same content
[23:02:50] jya: haven't tried since ffmpeg resync however
[23:03:07] jya: something may have changed, but i doubt it
[23:07:30] jya: dekarl: also the recorder or hls has nothing to do with the playback… it only build/record the mpeg-ts stream, no more no less
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