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| [00:22:06] | mrand: | j-rod|afk: got a request on the ubuntu side for support of a new Formosa based remote. I don't see it in the latest kernel tree, but the internet appears to have gotten it working just by adding the new device code. someone has a patch here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6980174.html What's the best way to formally ask for it to be added? |
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| [04:49:53] | Beirdo: | stichnot: sorry, I went off to never-never land... if you want accurate timings in the logfiles, your best bet is to set a logpath, and not use syslog for the timing related stuff |
| [04:51:25] | Beirdo: | that's a fundamental failing of syslog |
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| [06:15:50] | stichnot: | Beirdo: no problem, I'll work it out, I'm just resistant to change. :) |
| [06:16:13] | Beirdo: | hehe, that's a common problem with humans :) |
| [06:17:14] | Beirdo: | samples % image name app name symbol name |
| [06:17:15] | Beirdo: | 13028996 34.1825 nvidia.ko nvidia.ko _nv006601rm |
| [06:17:20] | Beirdo: | how interesting... |
| [06:17:29] | Beirdo: | oprofile output on my frontend box |
| [06:17:37] | wagnerrp: | change? aw i love change! why just for breakfast, i had change, change, change, change, bacon, eggs, change, change, and change |
| [06:18:05] | Beirdo: | 34% of non-halted CPU cycles are in one chunk of the nvidia driver. Wonder what that is... likely wait for interrupt |
| [06:18:26] | Beirdo: | like wait for confirmation that the vdpau or opengl stuff hppened |
| [06:18:41] | Beirdo: | next is 4.5% for libvdpau |
| [06:19:06] | Beirdo: | then 2.8% for the sound driver |
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| [07:21:48] | kenni: | sphery: Yes, all of them are browsable through the Live TV recording group, they are not in the deleted group. I just checked, currently I have ~40 entries in the Live TV group from yesterday (from 14–15 hours ago) – ~22 of them are the real Live TV recordings and the rest of them are the zero-byte counterparts. |
| [07:42:20] | Beirdo: | that's normal, AFAIK |
| [07:42:42] | Beirdo: | the 0 byte is while it's tuning and it's recording from a "dummy" source |
| [07:43:04] | Beirdo: | and as soon as tuning is done, the ringbuffer reads from the real file |
| [07:43:12] | Beirdo: | at least that was my understanding of it all |
| [07:43:38] | wagnerrp: | kenni: the second instance there, --file is a boolean, it doesnt take options |
| [07:43:46] | wagnerrp: | so its dumping 'xxx' back into rotation |
| [07:44:01] | wagnerrp: | however arguments are not enabled for mythfilldatabase |
| [07:44:28] | wagnerrp: | its not the best of errors in that situation, but i dont know off hand how to better handle that scenario |
| [07:47:54] | kenni: | Beirdo: Yes, but apparently they should have been deleted within a few minutes (through the deleted group?), but they aren't. See Daniels reply to #10429 |
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| [11:00:36] | stuartm: | kenni: hmm, they should be deleted within 22 minutes, or normally just 5 minutes (short LiveTV recordings are deleted after 2 minutes, they never go into the deleted recgroup) |
| [11:01:40] | stuartm: | kenni: can you check the start/endtime/ & recstart/endtime from the database for one of those? |
| [11:02:58] | stuartm: | actually, looks like livetv recordings should go exactly every 2 minutes |
| [11:06:42] | stuartm: | SELECT title, starttime, endtime FROM recorded WHERE recgroup = 'LiveTV' " AND endtime < DATE_ADD(starttime, INTERVAL '2' MINUTE) " AND endtime <= DATE_ADD(NOW(), INTERVAL '-1' MINUTE); |
| [11:06:51] | stuartm: | oops |
| [11:07:11] | stuartm: | well run the following as well – SELECT title, starttime, endtime FROM recorded WHERE recgroup = 'LiveTV' AND endtime < DATE_ADD(starttime, INTERVAL '2' MINUTE) AND endtime <= DATE_ADD(NOW(), INTERVAL '-1' MINUTE); |
| [11:07:53] | stuartm: | if it lists those recordings then they should have been deleted, if not then there's a problem with the start/endtimes for those temp recordings |
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| [13:37:39] | danielk22: | Beirdo: The time inside the nvidia driver is likely something to do with decoding or rendering.. not everything you 'send to the hardware' is really done in hardware (often what happens in the GPU depends on the particular GPU). |
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| [14:27:09] | knightr: | Is there a problem with the commit hook? (I had to manually close ticket #10437) |
| [14:38:05] | danielk22: | knightr: It's a recurring problem, github doesn't always tell us when a commit has happened. It will be fixed once we're running our own git server. |
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| [14:45:16] | knightr: | danielk22, Thank you! It's not that bad for us but I wouldn't want to be one of their commercial client if it's a recurring problem... It's not the first time it has happened to me so I check if it fired correctly each time... There's one thing I don't understand though, how come the IRC integration and mail on -commits worked, don't they use the commit hook too? |
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| [15:01:41] | wagnerrp: | knightr: IRC is handled by github themselves, not us |
| [15:01:55] | wagnerrp: | the mailer and trac independently receive updates from github |
| [15:02:15] | wagnerrp: | and there are some times commits dont show up on the mailing list as well |
| [15:03:40] | wagnerrp: | part of the problem with the trac hook is i cant figure out how to actually get the internal trac logging interface working |
| [15:03:55] | wagnerrp: | and manually opening a file and trying to write to it doesn't seem to work either |
| [15:04:18] | wagnerrp: | so my edits in the past have largely been trial and error |
| [15:04:43] | wagnerrp: | made more tedious by the fact that use of the hooks might only occur once ever few days |
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| [15:24:34] | knightr: | wagnerrp, Thank you Raymond! Maybe the Trac devs (or somebody on their MLs or IRC) could help with that logging interface problem? (but I guess you most likely already tried that...) |
| [15:25:03] | wagnerrp: | heh... nope |
| [15:25:20] | wagnerrp: | get help from someone? never! |
| [15:25:50] | knightr: | LOL :) :) :) |
| [15:26:33] | wagnerrp: | honestly, i havent touched the hook in maybe 6–8 months, and the -fixes hook has been broken for maybe 3 |
| [15:26:51] | wagnerrp: | i need to have another go at it and get it properly working before release |
| [15:27:53] | knightr: | but after we've switched back to our own server though, right? |
| [15:28:30] | wagnerrp: | well thats another thing, if we switch to our own git repo, that entire hook is no longer valid |
| [15:28:41] | wagnerrp: | since its specifically designed to work with github |
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| [15:34:01] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: speaking of which, do you know what we need to do in regards to hooks once we switch to our own repo? |
| [15:34:54] | knightr: | so if we're sure we are switching back *and* soon it might not be worth it to fix it (unless you *really* *really* want to get it working... (-; ) |
| [15:35:44] | wagnerrp: | well thats the thing, i dont know what the time frame is for that |
| [15:36:24] | wagnerrp: | and at least in the short term, we could be pushing hooks to github, and github pushing hooks back to track |
| [15:40:22] | knightr: | yikes, I though we were closer to switching back and having our own repo than that, now I understand whyyou want to try to get it working... |
| [15:40:48] | wagnerrp: | i really dont know |
| [15:40:58] | wagnerrp: | the switch to our own repo is supposed to happen before release |
| [15:41:18] | wagnerrp: | and i know there were plans to start migrating some stuff this weekend |
| [15:41:44] | knightr: | that |
| [15:41:55] | wagnerrp: | what im saying is that if need be, we could continue using the github hooks for some time |
| [15:42:14] | wagnerrp: | as our now primary repo would push to the github mirror, and the github mirror would then push back to trac |
| [15:42:16] | knightr: | that's what I had gathered too from seeing them talkig about DNS entries and things like that... |
| [15:44:23] | knightr: | one of the advantage to doing that would be that a test repo could be added on the new server and somebody (you (-; ? ) could start working on the new commit hook using that test repo to test it... |
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| [15:48:08] | knightr: | (and then we could switch back the repo...) |
| [15:53:43] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: you about? |
| [15:56:24] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: just a thought, if the removal of database access is going to cause this much trouble with shepherd |
| [15:57:16] | wagnerrp: | whats the opinion on letting them add native support for shepherd's behavior into MFD, in the same manner as schedules direct |
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| [16:01:26] | wagnerrp: | perhaps that could be something worth considering with the improvements to the plugin API you are planning |
| [16:02:05] | wagnerrp: | move the various grabbers into plugins for MFD |
| [16:02:16] | wagnerrp: | and if they want special behavior, define it in the plugin |
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| [16:45:15] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: shepherd can do everything it wants to do as a proper xmltv grabber |
| [16:45:44] | wagnerrp: | well so could schedules direct |
| [16:45:51] | stuartm: | right :) |
| [16:47:13] | stuartm: | and I'd be all for dropping internal SD support and making it use the xmltv stuff, but my opinion doesn't count on that matter because I'm not in North America and I'm not an SD user |
| [16:48:46] | stuartm: | the xmltv stuff is actually out ahead of the internal SD stuff in terms of ability, it can perform updates without wiping the whole table first, only updating programmes that have actually changed and that sort of thing |
| [16:53:17] | stuartm: | xmltv isn't entirely alien to SD, in fact the opposite, the lead dev on xmltv was (is) Robert Eden who designed xmltv around DD and was a founder member in SD |
| [16:53:58] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i know there is a xmltv grabber for it |
| [16:54:21] | wagnerrp: | actually there are two, with one of them merely offering it as an attempt to show some form of legitimacy |
| [17:04:09] | sphery: | I'd be all for moving to xmltv-based Schedules Direct (tv_grab_na_dd) data, but I think the reason it's currently internal is because we use some data from Schedules Direct that XMLTV doesn't support and no one took the time to get official xmltv support for those things (which is why when people with disconnected backends want to download listings elsewhere and import to MythTV, we tell them to use tv_grab_na_dd with the --raw-file (or ... |
| [17:04:15] | sphery: | ... whatever it's called) argument, so they don't lose that extra stuff) |
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| [17:13:49] | stuartm: | we should establish what is or isn't being included in the xmltv stuff even if we don't switch to using tv_grab_na_dd, it's probably not that the xmltv format doesn't support it but that we don't currently parse it in mfdb |
| [17:15:04] | stuartm: | if I were to guess that is – as I mentioned previously the xmltv format was originally based around what was available from DD so it would be strange for it to not to handle certain information |
| [17:16:30] | stuartm: | it's entirely possible that some info isn't parsed from that xml though, offhand I can't think of anything but it's the more likely scenario |
| [17:26:46] | sphery: | stuartm: Well, here's the post with the initial patch for DataDirect support – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/20769#20769 . David mentioned a couple of "issues" he had using XMLTV and see, also, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/20819#20819 . Main things he mentions seem to be programid/seriesid/categories (I think XMLTV just does one)/actors/roles . Would be better to compare current schemas for both, and ... |
| [17:26:52] | sphery: | ... find out today's differences, though. Also, those threads have some talk of why it was done separately from XMLTV. |
| [17:32:36] | stuartm: | we do cast, possibly not roles though – program and series id are present in my db, although the former might be generated from seriesid & episode data, at least for uk_rt |
| [17:32:57] | stuartm: | for categories we take just the first and ignore the rest |
| [17:33:20] | stuartm: | but I believe that although SD inserts all categories, no code actually uses them |
| [17:35:28] | stuartm: | the concerns about grabbing in one go vs all at once don't apply anymore, grabbers can tell mfdb the most efficient way to grab the data |
| [17:37:25] | sphery: | yeah, mfdb generates seriesid and programid for any shows for which both season and episode number are provided |
| [17:38:28] | stuartm: | ah, yeah we do insert the role information, so that's fine |
| [17:38:32] | sphery: | and as far as xmltv or not, might be worth asking Chutt why he liked this approach back then and if there's reason not to go back to xmltv |
| [17:39:24] | sphery: | the only down side I see to using XMLTV is requiring (North American) users to install and configure another external program (but since we require that of all other users...) |
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| [17:43:41] | stuartm: | episode-num could contain the programid/series id for xmltv, with the system attribute defining it as the DD 'system' |
| [17:44:41] | stuartm: | sphery: with apiconfig all the configuration would be within mythtv through the mythtv UI (that was going to be mythui, but will now more likely be the html setup stuff for 0.26) |
| [17:45:20] | stuartm: | outwardly it would be very similar if not exactly the same to the end user |
| [17:46:04] | stuartm: | we'd prompt for username/password through html setup, the user would select 'North America (schedules direct)' from the list of grabbers, that would pretty much be it |
| [17:49:03] | stuartm: | heh, we already support programid from the xmltv data, it's defined as the 'dd_progid' system, not seriesid though ... tbh that's best done by creating a new system for the DD grabber, 'dd_seriesid_progid' or something and joining the two together with a seperator, mfdb could split them back out again |
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| [19:37:26] | xris: | anyone (wagnerrp?) remember the correct verbose setting to get details about meta data lookup? |
| [19:38:15] | wagnerrp: | --verbose system will tell you what external calls are being run |
| [19:38:26] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if theres specifically anything for metadata processing |
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| [19:42:11] | xris: | worth a try. suddenly a bunch of my lookups are failing. |
| [19:42:43] | xris: | not sure if it's new stuff (underscores in filenames suddenly not converted to spaces?) or stuff I've moved around between directories |
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| [20:17:28] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: yes, there will be some work required to change hooks around. I haven't completed that part yet |
| [20:18:39] | wagnerrp: | want anything from me on the trac side? |
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| [20:36:11] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: would it make sense to you that mythtranscode would seize up if you try to give it a cut one frame in length? |
| [20:36:44] | wagnerrp: | '--honorcutlist 100–102' works, but '--honorcutlist 100–101' does not |
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| [20:42:52] | Beirdo: | not off-hand, but somehow it doens't surprise me |
| [20:43:26] | wagnerrp: | 100–100 would make sense, but 100–101, not so much |
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| [20:53:36] | Beirdo: | there's probably some stupid assumption as to the number of frames in the code |
| [20:53:58] | Beirdo: | like expecting a full GOP or something dumb |
| [20:54:22] | wagnerrp: | two frames works |
| [20:54:29] | wagnerrp: | or would that be three frames |
| [20:54:33] | Beirdo: | 100–102? that's 3 frames ;) |
| [20:54:35] | wagnerrp: | whatever 100–102 denotes |
| [20:54:42] | Beirdo: | but yeah, dunno |
| [20:55:31] | wagnerrp: | hey, im used to python where [3:5] only gives you two elements |
| [20:55:33] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [20:55:56] | Beirdo: | how? |
| [20:56:07] | Beirdo: | like gives you 3 and 4 or 4 and 5? |
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| [20:56:34] | Beirdo: | just wondering which one is the <= :) |
| [20:56:39] | wagnerrp: | start at 3, stop before 5 |
| [20:56:46] | wagnerrp: | up to but not including |
| [20:56:52] | Beirdo: | gotcha |
| [20:57:22] | Beirdo: | interesting way to do it |
| [20:58:11] | wagnerrp: | so, do i fix mythtranscode with a sanity check on the input? |
| [20:58:14] | Beirdo: | so mathematically, that would be [3:5) |
| [20:58:31] | wagnerrp: | or do i fix deletemap, so a frm_dir_map_t operates properly? |
| [20:58:48] | Beirdo: | well [3,5) |
| [20:59:01] | Beirdo: | or both? ;) |
| [20:59:29] | Beirdo: | I'd think fixing the map has the likelihood of fixing it elsewhere too |
| [21:00:08] | wagnerrp: | wait, thats not where it is defined |
| [21:00:12] | wagnerrp: | where does this type come from? |
| [21:00:47] | Beirdo: | programinfo I think |
| [21:00:55] | Beirdo: | programtypes? something like that |
| [21:00:55] | wagnerrp: | ah, programtypes |
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| [21:02:10] | wagnerrp: | looks like its just a simple type definition from a QMap |
| [21:02:19] | wagnerrp: | not any real class to fix at the moment |
| [21:02:41] | wagnerrp: | ill hold that off for later, and just clean up the mythtranscode stuff a bit |
| [21:04:57] | wagnerrp: | although if its just a simple qmap, that will make clean up much easier |
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