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Thursday, December 15th, 2011, 08:28 UTC
[08:28:58] markk: sphery: I think there may be a bit of a chicken and egg issue with your last commit. Updated this morning and restarted the backend – it threw out a ton of sql errors about inserting into logging. stopped and started with db logging disabled and it was then able to update the database. restarting as normal now works.
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[09:25:03] Beirdo: markk: so ya know... it would be nice to be able to reuse your VDPAU changes for the GPU commflagging. To do that, I'll need a way to hook in and get handed the VdpVideoSurface itself (and ideally be able to supply the surfaces to the decoder as the buffering is significantly different)
[09:25:33] Beirdo: not sure where you're heading currently with the changes, but maybe this will help guide us into a common direction :)
[09:26:16] Beirdo: I take the VdpVideoSurface and bind it to OpenGL, then copy it over in the GPU memory to an OpenCL bound image
[09:26:43] Beirdo: which is a different path from how you currently have it, I think
[09:27:52] Beirdo: I'm thinking of cleaning up my branch some and pushing it to github next week. Ideally, it would be nice to be able to use common code for all of that stuff rather than the somewhat custom code I have now.
[09:28:35] Beirdo: With it available to see (even incomplete) you'd be able to easily see how I have it hooked up, which might give you ideas, etc.
[09:29:03] ** stuarta suspects that might be a good plan **
[09:29:35] Beirdo: I don't mind reworking my code to fit :) Especially if we can get code that fits all needs, etc.
[09:30:17] Beirdo: I'm taking pretty much all of next week off, so I should have time to get it massaged up a bit for others to see ;)
[09:35:51] stuarta: lucky you, i'm working every day that's not a weekend or holiday :(
[09:36:21] Beirdo: heh, I had to burn off 48h of vacation this month ;)
[09:36:27] Beirdo: most of that's next week
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[09:56:15] markk: Beirdo: as you say, the easiest thing to do is to share your code. it's hard to see the synergies without understanding how you've handled it. I do have a plan for 0.26 to move VDPAU over to OpenGL – i.e. VDPAU for decoding only and then OpenGL for rendering – but that will depend on performance and the ability to use existing VDPAU functionality (e.g. hq scaling) without too much of a fudge.
[09:56:45] Beirdo: right
[09:57:28] Beirdo: :) Yeah, makes sense. It's nearly impossible at the moment for you to see into my code, so I realize it's less than ideal :)
[09:58:08] Beirdo: I like the idea of doing VDPAU->OpenGL like that, it seems to work pretty well
[09:58:51] Beirdo: I'm not doing it at the Presentation level though, just Video Surface, so I'm not sure how well it works further down the chain
[09:58:59] Beirdo: I'd suspect it will work well still
[10:02:55] Beirdo: I was unhappy to find that I had to copy the texture in OpenGL, but such is life. Can't bind the texture to both VDPAU and OpenCL simultaneously. :(
[10:03:25] Beirdo: but copying in GPU memory is blistering fast anyways
[10:04:31] markk: Beirdo: It probably doesn't even do a copy
[10:13:44] Beirdo: not in the normal binding, no
[10:14:04] Beirdo: but to get it bound to OpenCL, I needed to do a texture-to-texture copy in OpenGL
[10:14:27] Beirdo: otherwise the original buffer wasn't there anymore when I unbind VDPAU
[10:14:35] Beirdo: I got blank frames :)
[10:15:13] Beirdo: so instead, I have two OpenGL textures, one bound to VDPAU, one to OpenCL, copy across, then unbind VDPAU one, and carry on
[10:15:31] Beirdo: but in GPU memory, rather than system RAM
[10:16:16] Beirdo: ugh! 2am?!
[10:16:28] Beirdo: OK, I'd better go to bed. I just keep doing this :)
[10:47:16] markk: iamlindoro, Captain_Murdoch: a little more trial and error testing on libx264 settings. the single biggest improvement is generated by changing rc_lookahead to e.g. 10. transcoded material is clear from the very beginning. unfortunately on the test clip, setting rc_lookahead to anything other than 0 drops the frame rate from around 90 to 60 fps – but I guess that's the price of quality:)
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[13:01:59] stuartm: skd5aner: UK slant would be good for UK users, there are differing cultural attitudes to film content :)
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[14:05:55] Beirdo: oh how I love being on call
[14:19:49] danielk22: markk: Qt 4.8.0 supports threaded OpenGL.. probably a boon for performance, but I can imagine might complicate the OpenGL video renderer..
[14:21:35] Beirdo: OK, server's fixed, time to try salvage what's left of my sleep.
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[14:30:33] Captain_Murdoch: markk, not sure if there are other ramifications, but I think that setting rc_lookahead also means that frames get buffered in the encoder, so there will have to be some logic added to keep track of the pts and keyframe status of those frames so that we can record the right pts to the output file and split on the right frame. also may mean buffering audio frames so the audio frames are in the same file as the video, but I think
[14:30:34] Captain_Murdoch: I already have code that can handle that. previously mythtranscode would write out audio whenever it had data, now it tries to keep the audio packets as close to the video packets as possible by checking audio frame pts >= last video frame pts before writing an audio frame.
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[14:31:24] Captain_Murdoch: so I'd venture so say that if your using a lookahead of 10, your A/V could be out of sync by 1/3 or 1/6 of a second.
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[15:03:46] markk: danielk22: I don't honestly see much advantage to threaded opengl – texture upload from a different thread might be useful though (upload video frames to gpu directly from decoder thread).
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[15:15:05] markk: Captain_Murdoch: that makes sense – though I might just have a quick test and see what rc_lookahead = 2 (for example) looks like. if it produces the correct results it might without the av sync...
[15:20:04] markk: Captain_Murdoch: interestingly rc_lookahead=1 is enough
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[17:45:57] Captain_Murdoch: markk, nice. I still have to handle the buffered frame situation though so I can track of the pts and keyframe status so I can split the stream at the right point for HLS. for non-HLS libx264 encoding it is good to know. once the kinks are worked out, converting from .nuv software recording and transcoding should be a lot easier. we could allow .mp4 w/ libx264 & mp3 or .mpg mpeg-ts with mpeg2video & mp3
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[18:23:40] sphery: markk: oops, yeah, sorry about the log spew. I forgot to update the check, so it logs some db errors until the upgrade completes (it will recover on its own once the table is updated, but could slow things down depending on how many errors it's logging). I'll fix the check.
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[00:33:14] jpabq: danielk22: Once I changed (is_good&&false) to just be is_good, the new Damaged stuff seems to be working well.
[00:35:08] danielk22: jpabq: bah! I left that in!?
[00:36:14] jpabq: yup. Everything was being showing up in a Warning state.
[00:37:37] danielk22: Heh, it's not doing that here.. I just added that temporarily while testing that the warning state would be reflected in the UI.
[00:43:08] danielk22: I'll push the fix in a few minutes.
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[02:14:24] Timslin: what do i need to get mythtv to work?
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[02:51:52] ThisNewGuy: hey all
[02:52:07] ThisNewGuy: can anyone explain to me how the cache works in mythweb?
[02:58:13] ThisNewGuy: I see both a Cache class and a static $class array
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[03:22:29] ThisNewGuy: looks like static function variables is the most common pattern
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[06:17:11] DataTracer: Anyone talking in here?
[06:17:18] DataTracer: mythtv-users is quiet
[06:18:29] wagnerrp: unless youre going to discuss the development of mythtv, it is still the correct place
[06:18:45] DataTracer: *sigh* ok
[06:18:54] wagnerrp: three minutes with no response is not enough time to determine whether a channel is empty
[06:19:14] wagnerrp: the general rule is 'dont ask to ask, just ask"
[06:19:25] DataTracer: Gotcha
[06:19:38] DataTracer: Thanks for the heads up
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