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| [06:32:55] | mfroes: | hi guys is there a way i can configure mythtv server via commandline? mythtv-setup requires X |
| [06:40:41] | wagnerrp: | this is the development channel, you want #mythtv-users |
| [06:41:51] | wagnerrp: | mfroes: ^^^ |
| [06:42:54] | mfroes: | wagnerrp, thanks... and sorry about that |
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| [06:47:23] | abqjp: | danielk22, On a brand-new checkout in a new VM, I am getting a linker error complaining about an undefined reference to 'vtable for TeletextDescriptor' . Any chance that has to do with your latest DVB commit? |
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| [06:57:56] | wagnerrp: | abqjp: im getting the same stuff on freebsd... http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . e/logs/stdio |
| [06:58:46] | abqjp: | wagnerrp, yup, same error. I am getting it on Fedora 16. |
| [06:59:15] | wagnerrp: | using ccache? |
| [06:59:57] | abqjp: | Yes. |
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| [07:01:35] | wagnerrp: | force build master-freebsd-64bit now |
| [07:02:32] | wagnerrp: | MythBuild: force build master-freebsd-64bit now |
| [07:02:36] | MythBuild: | build forced [ETA 8m13s] |
| [07:02:36] | MythBuild: | I'll give a shout when the build finishes |
| [07:02:51] | wagnerrp: | i cleared my ccache... lets see if it passes now |
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| [07:03:26] | abqjp: | Unlikely, since I got it on a fresh checkout. |
| [07:04:02] | wagnerrp: | doesnt matter |
| [07:08:20] | wagnerrp: | well this is -j1, so its going to take a while to find out one way or another |
| [07:11:29] | abqjp: | My build was -j2, but since it was in a brand-new VM, it effectively was with a cleared ccache. If your test with -j1 works, then that would indicate a parallel make issue. Anyway, I am off to bed, so have a good night. |
| [07:11:59] | wagnerrp: | oh, i thought you meant a new checkout on the same instance with the same stored ccache |
| [07:12:41] | wagnerrp: | well... may as well let it finish out, going to have to rebuild the cache one way or another |
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| [07:25:50] | MythBuild: | Hey! build master-freebsd-64bit #1443 is complete: Failure [failed compile core] |
| [07:25:50] | MythBuild: | Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/1443 |
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| [10:19:45] | markk: | danielk22: re the build failure – TeletextDescriptor::toString isn't implemented. |
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| [13:16:54] | danielk22: | abqjp: markk: ok, I'm doing a fresh compile now.. dunno why it didn't complain here. |
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| [13:53:57] | dekarl: | danielk22, can I have it back? https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/39e05 . . . 5bbd07a3fba9 |
| [13:55:14] | dekarl: | I have some logging on to look into DVB issues and get spewed the "The TDT Table is a PES Packet with wrong CRC" errors all over the log :( |
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| [14:36:23] | danielk22: | dekarl, can you add an assert() and get me a backtrace for when this happens? HasCRC() should return false for a TDT. |
| [14:38:44] | danielk22: | markk: abqjp: What compiler are you guys using? I'd like to be able to see that error here.. |
| [14:40:36] | dekarl: | danielk22: its calling the wrong HasCRC ;) |
| [14:41:36] | dekarl: | I'll rebuild with an assert (will likely take me 1–2 days) |
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| [14:42:55] | markk: | danielk22: gcc 4.5.2 |
| [14:43:38] | markk: | should be a simple enough fix of either implementing TeletextDescriptor::toString or not declaring that method and letting it use the MpegDescriptor base implementation. |
| [14:44:25] | danielk22: | dekarl: it seems that way, but i've double and triple checked the signatures, afaict it should be using the derived one. |
| [14:45:24] | danielk22: | markk: yeah, i just need to commit, but i want to avoid needing to find out about these issues here |
| [14:47:46] | markk: | iamlindoro: is there a way of adding a new video file extension without a db update? looking to add webm |
| [14:48:03] | dekarl: | danielk22: when I last read the code it seemed that it was something with casting (or the lack thereof)... but I'll just get a BT so we can look at what actually happens |
| [14:53:53] | danielk22: | dekarl: There are a few things that can cause an unexpected virtual method to be called, but the backtrace will answer the question I think.. The reason I don't like the TDT hack is because there are other tables without CRC, so if this isn't right those tables won't be handled correctly. The TDT is just the most chatty of those tables. |
| [14:54:30] | dekarl: | tgm4883: superm1: really appreciate the mythbuntu packaging script, it simply asked for sudo permissions and installed the new crytalhd dependencies... great for testing patches (like my assert only line patch) |
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| [15:10:40] | MythBuild: | build #1444 of master-freebsd-64bit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/mast . . . /builds/1444 |
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| [18:09:15] | iamlindoro: | markk: not for everyone-- can use the file extensions screen to add a new one for you-- but for all users you need to do a db update |
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| [18:57:30] | stuartm: | mythmusic uses a hardcoded list of supported formats, which could I suppose come direct from the decoder, afaik mythvideo's file association stuff is only there to support the external player capability? |
| [18:59:07] | wagnerrp: | not eally |
| [18:59:26] | wagnerrp: | its more to act as a filter on what files to add to the database after a scan |
| [18:59:57] | wagnerrp: | rather than open each up to determine type from the header, it just uses the extension |
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| [19:00:44] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: right, but it doesn't need to store those extensions in the database or a UI for any of that |
| [19:01:45] | wagnerrp: | well, it does in the sense that it is included in the filename |
| [19:02:01] | wagnerrp: | but no, it doesnt actually pull any type information from the extension |
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| [19:02:29] | wagnerrp: | oh, youre talking about something else |
| [19:02:50] | wagnerrp: | those values are stored in the database so they can be edited by the user |
| [19:03:17] | stuartm: | the fileassociations table is just a list of filetypes mapped to a player, the file associations editor allows changes to be made to the mappings, in absence of external player support neither would be required |
| [19:03:36] | stuartm: | and we've talked about getting rid of external player support for years now |
| [19:03:56] | wagnerrp: | it is used for external player support, but it is also used to filter out unwanted content during a scan |
| [19:04:14] | wagnerrp: | such as images, text files, subtitles, and other content stored in the same tree |
| [19:04:56] | wagnerrp: | the 'f_ignore' field |
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| [19:06:25] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: aside from being used to define certain players for certain file types, the scan can operate in two modes |
| [19:06:34] | stuartm: | [18:57:29] <stuartm> mythmusic uses a hardcoded list of supported formats, which could I suppose come direct from the decoder << i.e. mythvideo should really behave the same way, it makes no sense for fixed values to be in the database |
| [19:06:45] | wagnerrp: | you can either whitelist the scan, only importing content with the known extensions |
| [19:06:58] | wagnerrp: | or you can blacklist it, accepting anything but those marked with the 'f_ignore' field |
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| [19:08:14] | wagnerrp: | well... i dont argue with that |
| [19:08:21] | wagnerrp: | s/dont/wont/ |
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| [19:08:28] | wagnerrp: | doesnt affect my use of it |
| [19:08:50] | wagnerrp: | assuming the hardcoded list from the decoder is well populated |
| [19:16:20] | stuartm: | what I'm really arguing is that we can simplify a few things by doing things a bit differently – simpler UI and less screens for the themer; easier to support new file extensions by modifying just one stringlist/array etc |
| [19:18:35] | wagnerrp: | or remove the options from the frontend entirely |
| [19:18:43] | wagnerrp: | and only make it available through the backend configuration |
| [19:18:55] | stuartm: | we should be striving to populate the list of extensions as completely as possible anyway so that things just work out of the box – the list can be easily compiled from the ffmpeg tables in their docs |
| [19:22:54] | stuartm: | offering a UI to edit associations is a bit backwards, we're supplying the decoder and should know better than most what file extensions it can be expected to handle, it would be odd to find MS Office asking users to manually add .doc or .docx in the settings before it will open those files |
| [19:23:28] | wagnerrp: | you jest, but that specific example has actually happened |
| [19:23:58] | wagnerrp: | (users wanting to add document extensions to mythvideo for loading in openoffice) |
| [19:25:06] | stuartm: | heh, yeah well there will always be the odd crackpot who wants to mis-use an application :) |
| [19:25:19] | wagnerrp: | in windows, you can specify any application you want to open whatever extension you want |
| [19:26:10] | wagnerrp: | and most of the 3rd party players i have used have offered a utility to directly manipulate those extensions |
| [19:26:57] | wagnerrp: | slightly different than what were talking about here, but similar concept |
| [19:27:22] | stuartm: | in absence of the external player stuff, there is only one decoder |
| [19:28:12] | wagnerrp: | but the extensions are completely arbitrary |
| [19:28:37] | wagnerrp: | lets say someone for their own convenience decided to rename their disk images to .dvdiso and .briso |
| [19:28:43] | stuartm: | not really, yes you can take any video and give it any extension, but in practice that's not the case |
| [19:28:46] | wagnerrp: | (i know we dont currently support bluray isos) |
| [19:29:37] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: they couldn't rename their mp3s to .notmp3 and expect players to recognise it regardless, extensions are there for a reason |
| [19:31:33] | stuartm: | it's entirely hypothetical anyhow, no-one has ever complained that mythmusic only scans for a fixed list of standard extensions so I can't see why it would be different for video |
| [19:31:47] | wagnerrp: | well as mentioned, if you want to remove it, i won't put up a fight |
| [19:32:08] | wagnerrp: | im just playing devils advocate, i do see it being useful to some people |
| [19:32:58] | wagnerrp: | useful to potentially more than just a couple fringe users |
| [19:38:56] | stuartm: | I don't doubt that someone will have an unexpected and maybe even genuinely good use for it, I just don't think that it would be enough to justify the added complexity it brings to both the code and the UI |
| [19:47:10] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: fwiw, I don't expect anything to come of this, it has come up every few months for the last few years there is lots of agreement but in the end it's decided to postpone it until after the next release ... |
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| [22:04:19] | xris: | wonder what it'd take to write an amazon VOD app for mythtv |
| [22:05:17] | wagnerrp: | cookie support in mythnetvision |
| [22:06:16] | wagnerrp: | its all flash (AFAIK) which we can do just fine |
| [22:06:26] | wagnerrp: | we just have no ability to manage a login |
| [22:09:00] | xris: | yeah. and permission to circumvent their web UI. |
| [22:09:15] | xris: | messing around with it on my google tv device now. you still have to browse the website to view things |
| [22:09:26] | xris: | but it looks like maybe roku has a real standalone client |
| [22:09:59] | xris: | I can't find anything about API access. maybe I'll ping some amazon-connected friends to see if they can get me in touch with someone internal |
| [22:10:44] | wagnerrp: | surely theres nothing preventing you from directly linking to a video |
| [22:11:03] | wagnerrp: | the only problem i could see would be getting that list of videos to search through in the first place |
| [22:11:30] | wagnerrp: | like how espn3 uses flash, and has an rss feed for their content |
| [22:11:39] | wagnerrp: | but tha rss feed just links everything back to their front page |
| [22:13:19] | xris: | right |
| [22:13:31] | xris: | maybe there's an amazon shopping API that would work |
| [22:14:24] | xris: | ah, cool, looks like there is.. just the standard API |
| [22:14:50] | xris: | would be slick to get that into mythnetvision |
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| [22:40:21] | markk: | iamlindoro: thanks – should have noticed the big, shiny 'New' button :) |
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