| Tuesday, December 6th, 2011, 00:02 UTC | ||
| [00:02:05] | wagnerrp: | dekarl: the issue is that were actually trying to get rid of the themes |
| [00:02:33] | wagnerrp: | leave only a base theme for 4:3 and 16:9, and make all other themes available through the theme chooser |
| [00:03:14] | wagnerrp: | in which case the theme would be checked for dtd compliance any time the author uploaded a new copy |
| [00:03:25] | wagnerrp: | although thats not yet in place to do so |
| [00:03:51] | sphery: | the hard part is getting someone to agree to hold on to the hot potatoes (i.e. step up to maintain themes) |
| [00:07:26] | danielk22: | sphery: I believe that masterServerSock->Unlock() is incorrect. Once we call DownRef() on a pointer we generally shouldn't dereference it again.. |
| [00:10:26] | danielk22: | yeah, looks like those two just need to be swapped, the lock is for the read&write.. |
| [00:20:40] | sphery: | do you plan to handle it? |
| [00:32:00] | sphery: | danielk22: oh, and I suppose if it's easier, I can ask the OP to file a ticket |
| [00:33:54] | danielk22: | i got, just gimme a little time |
| [00:34:02] | sphery: | ok, thanks |
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| [00:59:26] | danielk22: | gah, "Waiting for github.com..." Is there some trick for getting a decent github experience? |
| [01:01:40] | danielk22: | found this.. http://coderrr.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/githu . . . nd-git-pull/ but that doesn't help with the website.. |
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| [01:06:38] | danielk22: | heh, it appears that the "trick" is to run chromium instead of firefox.. |
| [01:09:17] | sphery: | hehe, if you mean the denial-of-service you get when you go to a page with a huge changeset, I feel your pain (with my (old) Firefox 5... Gotta update to 8 and see if it's better) |
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| [01:11:21] | danielk22: | sphery: It completely stops updating the Firefox UI for over a minute.. It's probably some cringe-worthy javascript code.. even with chromium it's slow.. just not unusably slow. |
| [01:12:44] | sphery: | yeah, that's the problem I see... happens on any page that has a ton of content (huge changesets or even very long files)... seems all their formatting is done client-side in javascript |
| [01:14:26] | danielk22: | sphery: None of my PC's are really slouches in the CPU dept.. I can't imagine what it is doing.. |
| [01:17:05] | sphery: | it's web 2.0, so it's all good... I think locking up the client browser for minutes at a time is a mandatory part of web 2.0 design... but at least this way, the service providers can use small virtualized servers since /they/ don't need any processing resources |
| [01:27:18] | Captain_Murdoch: | danielk22, did you see my message(s) RE: the removal of the call to av_estimate_timings causing issues with aspect ratio and duration detection in mythtranscode? any idea why that might happen? |
| [01:28:20] | danielk22: | Captain_Murdoch: I didn't see the message, and have no idea.. the av_estimate_timings is already being called earlier. |
| [01:29:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | is that via av_find_stream_info? |
| [01:29:52] | danielk22: | yea |
| [01:29:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | I was wondering if it had something to do with the callback being configured, but I moved that up to before the call to AVFD::FindStreamInfo and it didn't seem to help. |
| [01:30:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | thanks. I'll look into it more. |
| [01:30:16] | Captain_Murdoch: | ran into the issue working on the HTTP Live Streaming transcoding. |
| [01:41:34] | danielk22: | sphery: I'm unable to backport the fix. :| git is having trouble with files that had CRLF's in 0.24 but not in trunk... |
| [01:47:12] | sphery: | danielk22: fb1c7607f ? It cherry-picks for me... Did you need other changesets for it? |
| [01:47:31] | sphery: | (it does complain about "too many files", but it succeeds) |
| [01:56:11] | danielk22: | sphery: yeah, that's it I can cherry-pick it but I also wanted to mention whoever reported the problem in the commit to 0.24, but I can't do a "git rebase -i HEAD~1" because of a bunch of CRLF changed files & "git reset --hard" doesn't get rid of them.. |
| [01:57:19] | Beirdo: | look for autocrlf lines in your .gitconfig |
| [01:57:34] | sphery: | danielk22: how about git cherry-pick --edit? (Do you just want to edit the commit message you used on the master commit?) |
| [01:58:02] | sphery: | I've used that when I forgot to ref/close a ticket in master's commit message |
| [01:58:25] | danielk22: | Beirdo: it says "autocrlf = input" what should it say? |
| [01:58:45] | danielk22: | sphery: thanks, I'll try that. |
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| [02:05:11] | Beirdo: | danielk22: try commenting that out for now |
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| [02:07:54] | 45PAAB8JE: | stuartm, paul is working on converting mythmusic to MythUI? I went to theme it, but then remember it had not been converted yet --- which makes theming it unappealing. |
| [02:08:00] | 45PAAB8JE is now known as abqjp | |
| [02:14:05] | skd5aner: | he's been working on MythMusic for over a year now |
| [02:14:22] | skd5aner: | with no guarentee when/if he'll submit the changes – some things have been converted, but most hasn't |
| [02:14:52] | skd5aner: | ttbomk |
| [02:17:31] | danielk22: | Beirdo: That did it. |
| [02:18:01] | abqjp: | skd5aner, Thanks |
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| [03:03:06] | stichnot: | Here's something kind of annoying about various subtitle font sizes. |
| [03:03:34] | stichnot: | cc708 font size (as defined by QFont.setPixelSize()) is screen_height * 0.9 * OSDCC708TextZoom / 2000 |
| [03:03:42] | stichnot: | = screen_height / 22.22 using default OSDCC708TextZoom=100 |
| [03:03:51] | stichnot: | SRT font size is screen_height * 0.9 * OSDCC708TextZoom / 1800 |
| [03:03:53] | stichnot: | = screen_height / 20 using default OSDCC708TextZoom=100 |
| [03:03:55] | stichnot: | (note the use of a cc708 config for srt) |
| [03:03:56] | stichnot: | cc608 font size is screen_height * 0.9 / (17 * 1.2) |
| [03:03:58] | stichnot: | = screen_height / 22.67 |
| [03:04:00] | stichnot: | teletext font size is screen_height * 0.9 / (25 * 1.2) |
| [03:04:01] | stichnot: | = screen_height / 33.33 |
| [03:04:05] | stichnot: | Any suggestions on how to make this sane and reasonable and usable without adding new config options? |
| [03:08:23] | sphery: | stichnot: I have a patch that changes captions to use theme-specified fonts... it would allow specifying sizing, too |
| [03:09:33] | sphery: | (and many of the other font properties you can specify for any mythui fonts)... plan to clean it up in the next few days |
| [03:11:18] | stichnot: | OK, I'll wait and see what happens. |
| [03:16:37] | stichnot: | Keep in mind though that the cc608 code (regular and teletext mode) does a coordinate-based screen layout and so the user isn't supposed to have much of a say about font size. |
| [03:17:28] | stichnot: | Otherwise you might undo the sometimes careful placement of captions away from faces, credits, etc. |
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| [03:39:44] | xris: | huh, mythweb no longer grabs pixmaps from the backend. something in that API change? dblain / iamlindoro / wagnerrp ? |
| [03:40:26] | xris: | wait, no, I'm just slightly out of date. ignore moe. |
| [03:40:28] | xris: | me, even. |
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| [06:28:37] | dekarl: | sphery, wagnerrp: I see. From experience you need that quality gate or it will just be pushed out "once its good enough for myself" |
| [06:29:14] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [06:29:59] | dekarl: | wagnerrp: wrt verification on upload of theme changes |
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| [08:10:11] | markk: | stichnot: what exactly are you trying to fix with the subtitle sizes? both 708 and srt use the same zoom setting cc708 zoom setting because they are the only 'zoomable' captions and it was already name OSDCC708TextZoom (entirely invisible to an end user) |
| [08:10:50] | markk: | otherwise the different captions have different specs re. number of rows etc. I don't see what the problem is. |
| [08:13:12] | markk: | sphery: and to be honest, I don't like the idea of fonts being themeable. On the one hand, I just think that themeing is hard enough as it is and on the other, I think the OSD settings screen is manageable as is (i.e no desperate need to remove settings) and I don't think editing a theme is the right way to go about changing a caption font. |
| [08:15:52] | markk: | wagnerrp: sorry – forgot to finish last night re gary. If he's no longer involved and we're hosting the theme, I don't really see why we're going back to him for changes. I'm happy to take ownership of it if that is what's needed. |
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| [08:43:07] | wagnerrp: | markk: sounds fine to me |
| [08:43:30] | wagnerrp: | if you want, his address is gbutters at bpcs.net |
| [08:43:58] | wagnerrp: | when i asked the mythbuntu people about the pull request way back, none of them seemed to have any experience with the theming engine |
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| [12:41:52] | danielk22: | sphery: The more I think about it, the less I think CC font sizes should be under the control of the themer. Here function is way more important than "ohh, shiny".. If you need a larger size than the already sizable defaults you should get them regardless of the themer. |
| [12:47:21] | stuarta: | i would have to agree. the size of captions is set by the broadcaster for a reason |
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| [15:28:46] | stichnot: | markk: primarily, I think I would like cc608 (non-teletext), cc708, and srt fonts to be the same size by default. |
| [15:33:38] | stichnot: | Second, perhaps the documentation for OSDCC708TextZoom could make it clear that cc708 font sizes are not settable. |
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| [16:35:55] | joemyth: | please dont hate me for asking this question.. what should i get for an HD capable FE? |
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| [16:39:18] | stuarta: | please read the topic |
| [16:42:37] | joemyth: | got it, thank you |
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| [17:08:42] | markk: | stichnot: then the simplest thing to do is probably to adjust the srt font size calculation to match the cc708 default (so they'll be a fraction larger – but nobody will notice!). You can then adjust the zoom a small amount such that both are the same size as cc608 – though I'm not sure how sensitive 608 rendering would be to a small tweak to that as well (i.e. make all 3 the same by default) |
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| [17:28:13] | sphery: | OK, all, do you want me to restore the settings for OSDCCFont and OSDCC708DefaultFontType, OSDCC708MonoSerifFont, OSDCC708PropSerifFont, OSDCC708MonoSansSerifFont, OSDCC708PropSansSerifFont, OSDCC708CasualFont, OSDCC708CursiveFont, OSDCC708CapitalsFont, OSDCC708MonoSerifItalicFont, OSDCC708PropSerifItalicFont, OSDCC708MonoSansSerifItalicFont, OSDCC708PropSansSerifItalicFont, OSDCC708CasualItalicFont, OSDCC708CursiveItalicFont, ... |
| [17:28:19] | sphery: | ... OSDCC708CapitalsItalicFont? Or are we going to continue to have hard-coded OSCCC708* fonts and just use SubtitleFont for everything and only have one font size for all fonts? It's only 17 new settings to confuse users with--users who likely just want it to look good. |
| [17:28:33] | sphery: | Sure, some small percentage want to adjust them, but those who really want to could with them in the theme--and, we can allow users to control more if it's in the theme (default color, outline, stretch, ... ( http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Devel . . . _definitions ) without adding 17 * (setting to allow) more settings. |
| [17:29:43] | sphery: | I just don't see it as something that every one and their grandma is going to /want/ to control--and I miss being able to control which font is used for EIT-708 captions (and would love more control--like, eventually, the ability to remove the ugly black box, use an outline, and maybe an alpha-ed background) |
| [17:37:10] | danielk22: | sphery: font size != font. There is really only font and one size that works for CEA-608 captions and Teletext since those are on a fixed grid. But 708 captions are designed to be resizable and allow for proportional fonts. I think we should pick the overall font in the theme, but leave the size determination to the user. |
| [17:39:23] | sphery: | well, my plan was to ignore the theme-specified values that didn't apply, so size for 608 (didn't know about teletext, but haven't looked at teletext, yet) and color when specified by the captions and ... |
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| [18:50:58] | stichnot: | markk: I would just change the constants 1800 and 2000 in subtitlescreen.cpp to be 2040 so that all non-teletext font sizes are the same when using default OSDCC708TextZoom=100. |
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| [19:01:57] | stichnot: | Speaking of subtitles, is there any reason not to offload subtitle display (the stuff kicked off in SubtitleScreen::Pulse) into a separate thread? This would eliminate subtitle-related stuttering and dropped frames, e.g. the reason for MythUISimpleText. (I also got some of this stuttering when testing some made-up extreme cases for SRT formatting in ticket 10194.) |
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| [19:44:25] | markk: | stichnot: SubtitleScreen is a libmythui screen – it has to run in the main thread otherwise all sorts of bad things happen. it might be possible to do some of the text rendering in another thread. |
| [19:44:49] | stichnot: | ok, that's what I was afraid of. |
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| [21:49:50] | danielk22: | stichnot: MythUI and Qt Pixmaps must run in a the main thread. You can offload things to another thread, it can just be a bit complicated... |
| [21:52:44] | stichnot: | QFont and QFontMetrics operations for computing shape sizes and positions should be all right outside the main thread, right? |
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| [22:26:46] | danielk22: | stichnot: I think so, but only one thread can touch them at a time. |
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| [22:30:10] | danielk22: | QImage can also be used outside the main thread, but not QPixmap. |
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