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Monday, October 31st, 2011, 00:02 UTC
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[16:35:59] jpabq_: iamlindoro: thanks.
[16:37:30] iamlindoro: jpabq_: I suppose I could have just done it, I was just walking away from the computer at that moment, sorry about that
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[20:01:16] ** iamlindoro somehow assumes that Canonical's foray into Smart TVs won't include MythTV **
[20:17:45] Captain_Murdoch: s/video on deman in Linux/video on demand in MythTV/ :)
[20:17:55] Captain_Murdoch: doh.
[20:24:30] dekarl: meh, when he said 20:00 zulu he meant 19:00 utc or 20:00 CET...
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[21:06:01] danielk22: I upgraded my backend to trunk last night and now can't run mythtv-setup, because it can't find the backend.. is this a known problem, fixed since last night maybe?
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[21:08:52] dekarl: like this? https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/bae93 . . . ffc111c0ec34
[21:08:58] sphery: danielk22: before https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/bae9371b0 ?
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[21:09:20] sphery: hehe, I'm too slow... but, yeah, that was intended to fix the popup appearing and making -setup unusable
[21:10:06] danielk22: sphery: heh, ok I just got back from a trip so I'm not all caught up yet.. that sounds like it :)
[21:10:10] sphery: danielk22: btw, turns out your reuse-db-logging-prepared-statements change wasn't to blame for the startup error message spew (got that fixed--it was just a logic error/typo in the wait conditional)
[21:10:36] sphery: so, apologies for the misplaced blame--it was a different changeset that came right after yours
[21:13:12] danielk22: sphery: I'm glad it wasn't mine, but I hold no illusion that all my changes are 100% error free either. I review other people's commits and hope others review my commits. :]
[21:14:29] sphery: hehe, yeah, same here--and good thing other do (Beirdo caught me breaking something just yesterday)
[21:15:17] Beirdo: we all break crap :)
[21:15:18] Beirdo: heh
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[21:55:28] danielk22: Beirdo: speaking of.. it appears that when the backend is run with --daemon and --logfile it still sends output to the console.. it didn't used to do that and it doesn't make sense to me as a 'feature' since it's usually only a startup script that runs with --daemon Any ideas?
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[21:57:39] Beirdo: hmmm
[21:57:54] Beirdo: what output in particular? the logs themselves?
[21:58:33] Beirdo: there might be some stray output that's not logged to look into. We keep finding ways of minorly breaking that as we fix it, it seems :)
[22:03:30] jpabq_: Out of curiosity…. Under the old system, output from my channel change scripts was captured and showed up in the log. Now, that output just ends up on the console. How hard would it be to capture stdout from that script, again?
[22:04:31] Beirdo: not really terribly easy yet.
[22:04:49] jpabq_: Okay. Not a big deal, but it would be nice.
[22:04:54] Beirdo: if we really want to, we can make it do that, but it's not there right now
[22:05:18] Beirdo: we can capture all output from anything we run with mythsystem with a touch of work though
[22:06:13] Beirdo: I should make a note of that, and we can work it in in a few places where it seems useful (such as there, mythfilldatabase's calls to wget...)
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[22:07:44] Beirdo: it was a bit of an oversight... I meant to get that back in, but forgot, honestly. Capturing stdout blindly isn't necessarily the best way, but we'll see what we can do.
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[23:06:16] wagnerrp: Beirdo, danielk22: i noticed the wget output from mythfilldatabase showing up there a while back
[23:07:01] wagnerrp: on that note, why are we not double forking and closing those pipes with --daemon?
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[23:12:53] Beirdo: because eventually, we want them logged. And there's not much point in double forking that I recall.
[23:13:14] Beirdo: anyways, I will try to look into it in a bit. Don't let me forget :)
[23:13:39] wagnerrp: want me to open a task ticket?
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[23:14:00] Beirdo: sure. --daemon mode should have absolutely no output to the console
[23:14:55] Beirdo: and as part of that, we'd likely want to capture all stray output and log it somehow, and I need to take the time to think of how we really want to do it, and if there's some output we just want in the bitbucket
[23:15:07] Beirdo: so yeah, a task ticket would work :)
[23:15:54] wagnerrp: seems like it would be easy enough to open up a pipe for new MythSystem instances to use when not capturing those outputs
[23:16:32] wagnerrp: although that might get a bit messy if two applications are trying to write at the same time
[23:16:33] Beirdo: well, if we aren't capturing them, we should be redirecting to /dev/null, essentially
[23:16:36] Beirdo: yeah
[23:18:21] wagnerrp: stdin is redirected, stdout and stderr are not
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[23:44:26] danielk22: wagnerrp: Beirdo: Hmm, I think MythSystem exec output may be most of what I'm seeing. I know I see the wget output, and the output of some custom scripts.
[23:44:46] danielk22: most or all, I'll need to verify.
[23:44:59] Beirdo: OK. Yeah, we'll get that stuff cleaned up :)
[23:45:27] Beirdo: I specifically left the wget for now as we were planning on moving that to the internal downloader if we could
[23:45:46] Beirdo: but that hasn't happened yet. One way or the other, it will be silenced for the release.

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