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[03:01:44] nvzn: hi, it seems my frontend is getting stuck sometimes, can't do much, ESC doesn't even work. I can do ctrl-alt-f[1–6] and get a terminal but that's about it
[03:02:01] nvzn: it gets stuck on a channel
[03:02:06] nvzn: during livetv
[03:02:30] nvzn: sorry i'll go to mythtv-users to post this
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[06:50:26] iamlindoro: dblain: http://www.fecitfacta.com/mtvotg.png one night project, Services based recordings frontend ;)
[07:35:14] laga_: that's sexy, iamlindoro
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[09:13:08] wagnerrp: iamlindoro: patch to peruse... http://www.wagnerrp.com/files/MythTV/metadata_path.patch
[09:13:19] wagnerrp: it compiles, but ive admittedly not tested it
[09:13:52] wagnerrp: at least locally, i seem to be having some problem where entering the metadata script selection page triggers some mythscreenstack issue
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[10:40:24] dblain: iamlindoro: outstanding on both (video & recordings frontend)
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[12:25:35] orkomania: hello. I asked already yesterday but i did not get any answer. i would like to contribute and code a bit. I would like start with some small refactoring to get to know the code. Do you have any process to where i should sent my patches?
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[12:28:11] stuartm: [03/10/2011 13:50:34] <danielk221> Yikes! I would hardly consider a refactoring patch a contribution! Refactoring is something you put up with because it helps with future modifications, but the refactoring itself introduces bugs so you don't allow it unless the person doing the refactoring has a long track record of making solid contributions and intends to stick around.
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[12:33:59] orkomania: or if the person also creates unit tests that proove that the refactoring did not break anything.
[12:35:33] orkomania: I thought about small refactoring like extarcting copy and pasted code into a function.
[12:36:33] orkomania: But i am fine with bug fixing or fixing problems detected by cppcheck.
[12:37:30] orkomania: Just tell me whats the best way i can contribute.
[12:47:55] danielk221: orkomania: bug fixing is the best way to get started, it gives you a track record with the other developers doing the code review who will then be inclined to review refactoring and other patches.
[12:50:55] orkomania: danielk221: Thanks. Do you have any unit tests? I did not find any in the repository. Or integration tests?
[12:52:08] danielk221: orkomania: Nope, contributing those and a framework for them be a good contribution.. but not likely to be accepted until you have some track record.
[12:52:38] orkomania: danielk221: no matter. will anyhow take some time to have all the test written. I will start with bug fixing. thanks for the hints.
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[13:09:27] danielk221: Hmm, there must be some guides out there available for new contributors for how to go about contributing to an OSS project. Anyone have links? (Obviously us being hospitable is a requirement for us, but I also wonder if there are similar guides for OSS project participants welcoming new contributors.)
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[14:01:05] iamlindoro: wagnerrp: The patch seems fine to me, no objections to it if you've since tested it and it looks okay-- though isn't there a quote mismatch on the DB update?
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[14:43:54] wagnerrp: iamlindoro: in the 'INSTR', looks so
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[16:10:28] stuartm: did we ever discuss giving Dave Matthews commit privs?
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[16:19:24] stuartm: blue03Warbler84
[16:21:52] stuartm: ...
[16:24:48] wagnerrp: sounds like someone needs a new password
[16:24:51] wagnerrp: :)
[16:25:14] stuartm: it was long overdue for a change
[16:25:31] stuartm: bl**dy screensaver :)
[16:27:17] xavierh: :)
[16:28:31] mrand: Very impressive one though!
[16:28:34] xavierh: I have been playing with MythUI to create some setup screen for mythfrontend, I have to say that I am really impressed with the flexibility of MythUI,, well done !
[16:35:38] stuartm: mrand: could be better, but it's no good if I forget it :)
[16:51:46] xavierh: Am I right to think that a MythUIButtonTree can be multicolumn such as MythUIButtinList?
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[17:07:22] Beirdo: stuartm: how's your shutdown/welcome replacement (?) coming along?
[17:09:40] stuartm: it's not right now, I've been kept busy with other things but it's about as simple as these things get so when I find a few hours (mostly for testing) it should be finished
[17:10:09] stuartm: I presume this is in relation to the 0.25 discussion?
[17:10:30] Beirdo: cool. Seems there's a hang in mythwelcome/mythshutdown, and if we are replacing it, I don't want to spend too much work tracking it down.
[17:10:33] Beirdo: yeah, and that :)
[17:11:14] Beirdo: paulh suspects its related to logging, but with no backtraces, it's nearly impossible to determine
[17:11:18] stuartm: Beirdo: well certain people are adverse to replacing mythwelcome/mythshutdown even if the same functionality is in the frontend/backend
[17:11:35] Beirdo: true
[17:11:40] Beirdo: hmmm
[17:11:42] stuartm: and by certain people, I mostly mean Paul, he's pretty attached to them
[17:11:51] Beirdo: yeah, I've noticed
[17:12:00] Beirdo: OK, well, I'll see what I can find anyways
[17:12:36] Beirdo: but if the affected user can't get us troubleshooting info, I'll be mostly shooting in the dark, and that's never that fun
[17:12:39] stuartm: there's a chance that when he sees what I'm working on that he may have a change of heart, but I can't count on it
[17:13:32] Beirdo: agreed
[17:14:20] Beirdo: OK, well, a bug hunting I'll go. After the latest changes daniel made to the threading itself, I have to reacquaint myself with part of the logging stuff, but no biggie.
[17:14:38] Beirdo: that's the price of progress :)
[17:15:12] Beirdo: ahhh, the user in question is one of those doing Spanish translations... maybe he can get me the backtraces.
[17:18:18] Beirdo: hmmm, startup spew from MMUnix:CheckMountable. I don't remember seeing this before on my frontend. I guess more to look at
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[20:07:23] stu[mob]: Test :-)
[20:08:29] stuarta: \o/ that works
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[20:44:49] xavierh: How to use MythUIButtonTree? When I assignTree I have a segmentation fault:(
[20:46:17] xavierh: I create a simple MythGenericTree wth two leaves but assigning to the the MythUIButtonTree make it crash
[20:47:51] xavierh: http://pastebin.com/mtBMsgWj
[21:13:00] danielk221: Beirdo: re: 10032, i think it's probably possible to use the immediate mode logging and avoid starting up the threads for short lived commands. We'd have to give up DB logging, but file & console should work (some minor tweaks may be needed.)
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[21:24:49] Beirdo: yeah
[21:25:12] Beirdo: it will have to use the common code, but we did put in support for that (well, you did) :)
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[21:28:30] Beirdo: danielk221: I'll look at it tonight, if you feel like stealing it in the mean time, you'll get no argument from me :)
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[21:34:42] Beirdo: danielk221: actually (from the email), we should be explicitly crediting others work if we use it in its entirety (for future legal ass-coverage) I don't think we've been very anal about it though
[21:35:04] Beirdo: but I like your response anyways :)
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[21:55:15] taylorr: Beirdo: what's the proper git syntax for crediting the original author and I'll add it to the wiki
[21:55:45] Beirdo: git commit --author "Full Name <email@address>" -s
[21:56:01] Beirdo: the author part would be the third party, and the -s puts your signoff on it
[21:56:24] Beirdo: of course, we can't always get a real full name, but we do the best we can :)
[21:58:44] taylorr: added... thanks
[21:59:29] Beirdo: no problem. I shoulda thought of adding it myself. Thank you :)
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[22:01:46] xavierh: How to have a checkbox in a MythGenericTree?
[22:02:02] Beirdo: we will forget occasionally, of course, but at least now we know how :)
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[22:05:52] dekarl: talking about web scrapers makes me think if the wiki should refer to them and even host configuration files for guide scrapers? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hongkong.ini
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[22:17:19] usbtv: can anyone recommend me some cheap USB DVB TV Tuner adapters (dongles), that is usb adpaters that will enable me to watch DTT (DIGITAL TV) on my netbook? I am in Spain and the only TV you can watch here is digital. I am looking for USB adapters that do NOT require non free firmware and are approved by the FSF and work on GNU/Linux distros using the linux-libre kernel
[22:17:31] usbtv: a visit to h-node.com did not help me at all
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[22:35:05] Beirdo: usbtv: this is not the channel for that
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