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| [02:41:42] | knightr: | kenni, stuartm, sphery, iamlindoro, beirdo and anybody else interest the new Spanish translation team wants me to try to apply those tickets so I am reassigning them all to me... |
| [02:42:20] | sphery: | yay. thanks |
| [02:43:11] | knightr: | sphery, np... Sorry it took so much time, I haven' |
| [02:43:32] | knightr: | 't had much spare time in the past months and weeks... |
| [02:44:15] | knightr: | Reynaldo might be pissed but he had his chance, I contacted him multiple times about these... |
| [02:44:56] | sphery: | yeah, I really think he'll be relieved--I'm pretty sure he has plenty of other things keeping him busy, so it will be one less thing to worry about |
| [02:45:51] | sphery: | and, yeah, no problem on the timing--after all, you are volunteering your time and it's supposed to be a project for fun |
| [02:49:56] | knightr: | probably.... as for timing I would have liked to have been able to do that sooner but things have been so crazy both at work and at home recently that everything gets delayed more than it should... |
| [02:50:37] | knightr: | (and now to make things even worse my backend if dead, I'm hoping it's power supplies issues so I've ordered another one...) |
| [02:50:51] | knightr: | s/supplies/supply |
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| [02:51:08] | sphery: | yeah, hope it's a quick fix like that--good luck with it |
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| [02:54:54] | knightr: | thanks! I hope it's that because it's LGA775/DDR2 based and suitable hardware for that (especially motherboard) is getting more difficult to find... |
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| [04:10:10] | wagnerrp: | !seen danielk22 |
| [04:10:10] | MythLogBot: | danielk22 was last seen 7 days 9 hours 14 minutes 17 seconds ago |
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| [04:10:16] | MythLogBot: | danielk has not been seen here |
| [04:10:25] | wagnerrp: | he say he was going out of town or something? |
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| [14:28:22] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: not that I recall |
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| [17:10:42] | taylorr: | sphery: with the removal of arrow acceleration, does that mean that the OSD navigation will require 'select' every time and I'm not sure there is a way to go back like you could with the left arrow |
| [17:11:00] | taylorr: | also, does left/right work in the watch recordings screen? |
| [17:11:01] | sphery: | I'll look into that |
| [17:11:18] | taylorr: | George on the list has a good point |
| [17:11:36] | taylorr: | thanks |
| [17:12:01] | sphery: | left right in watch recordings to switch between the recording list and the title list? |
| [17:12:35] | sphery: | and, if George has a good point, IMHO, he can write a patch that makes it work properly in all themes, regardless of layout |
| [17:12:48] | sphery: | or wait until we get there :) |
| [17:13:45] | taylorr: | sphery: I think he just wants the OSD menu to work the same |
| [17:13:47] | taylorr: | as do I |
| [17:14:00] | sphery: | well, if the OSD menu is broken, I'll fix it |
| [17:14:38] | taylorr: | cool, I would imagine the Watch Recording (aka PBB) is still OK |
| [17:14:56] | sphery: | I didn't realize he was talking about OSD there--it sounded like a general, "I have a habit and don't want to learn to do things differently." :) |
| [17:18:45] | taylorr: | I'm assuming he's just referring to things like the OSD menu |
| [17:18:45] | dekarl: | sphery: letting the OSD use up/down *and* left/right again would be great. It just felt natural to navigate a menu tree like that. |
| [17:19:09] | taylorr: | agreed |
| [17:20:28] | taylorr: | sphery: re: #9997, that reported is spot on with his assessment of the problem – the fix is probably good too but I'd like to have Mark look at it since he changed that code when he checked in the MythUI-OSD merge |
| [17:21:29] | taylorr: | definitely sleeping up to 10ms while allowing frames to be decoded and then grabbing the last decoded frame was not the intention of the original code written by Captain_Murdoch |
| [17:22:21] | taylorr: | sphery: are you aware of a ticket related to comm skip where the skip amount is 0:00 even though it actually skips a few minute? |
| [17:23:14] | sphery: | taylorr: cool... I didn't know the player stuff--and the description makes a lot of sense and seems to fit with the (especially recent) behavior where different runs produce different results. I know Beirdo noticed that when he was testing his quarter-video decode commflag speed up patch |
| [17:23:36] | sphery: | so, you mean it shows it skipped 0:00 but it actually skipped more? |
| [17:23:44] | sphery: | haven't heard of that one |
| [17:24:44] | taylorr: | sphery: actually the function GetRawVideoFrame is only used by the commercial flagger type programs – it's not used by the frontend at all |
| [17:25:09] | taylorr: | yes, it skips a few minutes and the OSD shows that it skipped 0:00 |
| [17:25:57] | Beirdo: | fun |
| [17:26:30] | taylorr: | Beirdo: yeah, so now you know why |
| [17:26:54] | Beirdo: | so many complicated little twists in there |
| [17:27:20] | Beirdo: | so you're of the opinion that we should test out what's in the ticket as it seems to be on the money? |
| [17:27:37] | Beirdo: | I only took a brief look at it, and haven't taken the time to analyze it at all |
| [17:27:47] | taylorr: | I'm running it now but I'd still like Mark to look over it |
| [17:28:01] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [17:28:19] | Beirdo: | that may take a while though as isn't he in the process of moving back to the UK? |
| [17:28:33] | taylorr: | what's the rush :) |
| [17:28:39] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:28:53] | Beirdo: | I dunno about you, but I'd like to see 0.25 out by the end of the year at least :) |
| [17:29:12] | Beirdo: | of course, we still have plenty of time on THAT timescale |
| [17:29:30] | taylorr: | sure, I'd just like to find time to finish implementing some of the player changes I've got on my plate |
| [17:29:38] | sphery: | could just push it to master and let it test in there for a while--then decide whether to backport it (or, ideally, when he's back, have him look it over before the backport) |
| [17:30:07] | Beirdo: | heh, or... if we release 0.25, screw 0.24 :) |
| [17:30:20] | Beirdo: | oh wait, did I say that out loud? :) |
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| [17:31:04] | taylorr: | people should continue running 0.24 as long as they like and not have to deal with bugs like that just because 0.25 fixes it |
| [17:31:38] | taylorr: | I'm sure 0.25 will be as problematic or more so that 0.24 at release time |
| [17:32:30] | Beirdo: | some things should be backported, sure, but not every bug fix |
| [17:32:47] | Beirdo: | this one does sound like the type to get the backport though :) |
| [17:33:50] | Beirdo: | our policy has in the past always been to only backport important bug fixes, IIRC. What kinda bugs me is the people who supply new patches for new features... off 0.24 |
| [17:34:17] | Beirdo: | which can cause a lot of extra work to get into master which is meant to be the development branch |
| [17:34:40] | Beirdo: | LVR has that MHEG one in... |
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| [17:35:24] | Beirdo: | the MHEG support is problematic, but part of that is due to ffmpeg support, which has changed. It would take some time to redo those patches to fit |
| [17:35:55] | Beirdo: | but anyways, I ramble :) |
| [17:36:02] | Beirdo: | back to writing XML for cacti |
| [17:37:56] | stuartm: | OT: but does anyone know of something better than GD::Graph::bars for bar graphs with perl? |
| [17:38:39] | Beirdo: | Not off hand, never thought of it. Perlmagick may have something, but I'm sure it will be tricky |
| [17:48:27] | stuartm: | ok thanks |
| [17:54:08] | Beirdo: | seems there's a SVG::TT::Graph::Bar |
| [17:54:44] | Beirdo: | might work, never tried it though :) |
| [17:56:37] | stuartm: | that looks promising, might not have the limitations that GD::Graph has |
| [17:58:03] | Beirdo: | cool. I saw Imager::Graph::Bar on the search too. I'm sure that one of them will give you satisfactory outputs :) |
| [18:26:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | taylorr, I had asked someone else to test #9997 a week or so ago but hadn't heard back unless I missed it in IRC scrollback. I haven't kept up with the player reorg enough to know that the patch doesn't have unintended side effects. |
| [18:26:34] | Captain_Murdoch: | can't recall who I talked with either. :| |
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| [20:34:51] | taylorr: | Captain_Murdoch: yes, I don't know anything about that part of the code or why it needed to be changed – it would be nice for Mark to take a look before anything happens but at the same time it's a bug that needs to be fixed |
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