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[00:37:19] danielk22: taylorr: do you know which commit that was?
[00:39:34] danielk22: Beirdo: the > > template syntax issue is fixed in Cx11 :)
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[00:41:08] taylorr: danielk22: I'll go look for it
[00:46:42] Beirdo: yay!
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[00:48:48] taylorr: danielk22: commits 4d9afb4ff3e9b9d506bd72f1356e4bf3b4275765 and dafabdc90c5fdc87b920e70818566a6248a63c2a on Feb 21st
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[00:56:18] danielk22: taylorr: Thanks! The mistake is probably even more baked into master with those commits, but I'll need to look at the actual code and set up a test bed. This will give me a start.
[01:03:18] wagnerrp: danielk22, Beirdo: re #9986, is there any real need to run mythsystem tasks inside a shell? besides its just a crapton easier than parsing everything out manually
[01:04:22] wagnerrp: right now, the new mythsystem supports running outside the shell (eliminating the need for 'sh')
[01:04:33] wagnerrp: but you need to provide the sequenced arguments as a string list
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[01:04:55] wagnerrp: there is no support for breaking apart a command given as a string
[01:04:59] Beirdo: There are some of them that seemed to require it still and I forget why
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[01:05:29] Beirdo: yeah, I saw that ticket
[01:05:41] Beirdo: my basic response is: that is unsupported in OSX
[01:05:43] Beirdo: next.
[01:06:22] wagnerrp: well it seems to make the whole of the OSX client pretty limited in support if all the mythsystem stuff doesnt work
[01:06:25] Beirdo: however, no reason we couldn't make it supported, but the studly caps on the program name will have to go
[01:06:33] Beirdo: as a starter
[01:06:49] Beirdo: and sh should be found
[01:07:02] wagnerrp: wait, is it failing to find mythfilldatabase? or is it failing to find sh?
[01:08:03] Beirdo: I think mythfilldatabase
[01:08:18] Beirdo: as he didn't provide logs, no way we can tell
[01:08:30] wagnerrp: one way to find out...
[01:09:17] Beirdo: also...
[01:09:27] Beirdo: that's 0.24-fixes, and I won't be fixing it
[01:09:37] Beirdo: we'll fix it for 0.25 perhaps
[01:10:25] wagnerrp: well if its the camelcase issue, thats easily enough fixed in packaging
[01:10:26] Beirdo: sorry, the old myth_system is what it is.
[01:10:28] Beirdo: yeah
[01:10:41] wagnerrp: if its lacking bourne, thats a very deep issue that will take some time to resolve
[01:10:41] Beirdo: if it's just camelcase issues, easily fixed, I would think
[01:10:54] Beirdo: if his mac is missing /bin/sh, he needs to reinstall OSX
[01:10:57] wagnerrp: at least if we cant simply ifdef a replacement binary in for OSX systems
[01:11:06] Beirdo: macbook:~ gjhurlbu$ which sh
[01:11:06] Beirdo: /bin/sh
[01:11:19] Beirdo: at least in Snow Tiger, it's there
[01:11:45] Beirdo: I would be shocked if it isn't on every version
[01:12:13] Beirdo: OSX is a UNIX-like setup with a very custom frontend, but it still should have /bin/sh
[01:12:50] Beirdo: the packaging/pathing issue is not a MythTV problem, but rather a packaging problem
[01:16:11] Beirdo: anyways, I should head home :)
[01:18:43] danielk22: Beirdo: is it possible we just need to run /bin/sh rather than /sh ?
[01:19:08] wagnerrp: im pretty sure we already are
[01:19:34] danielk22: wagnerrp: Honestly very few of the commands actually need to be run under the shell, but changing the default means finding all of them and adding the flag where necessary.
[01:20:03] wagnerrp: https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . nix.cpp#L643
[01:21:08] wagnerrp: Beirdo is probably right, its just the improper case on executables that is causing problems
[01:21:22] danielk22: It would be a useful thing to do as it would help us find those for the windows port..
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[01:22:24] wagnerrp: well we still need some sort of string parser, at least for things like user defined commands
[01:24:02] danielk22: wagnerrp: In most cases we don't need the shell though. We can pass an argument list with execv and friends.
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[02:03:45] taylorr: Captain_Murdoch: any thoughts on backporting a123dd22?
[02:12:43] Beirdo: danielk22: if /bin/sh isn't on the path, then the OSX setup is extremely retarded by default
[02:13:44] Beirdo: I think there were a couple odd cases where having sh -c was useful, but yeah, in general, I'd rather not use the shell, but we kept it there for now
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[02:13:57] Beirdo: to do backgrounding, you do currently need the shell though
[02:14:15] Beirdo: IIRC
[02:14:24] Beirdo: I dunno, been a long day :)
[02:14:53] Beirdo: as long as it works when we're done, I say go for it :)
[02:18:25] wagnerrp: thats the other thing, well need to check for things like redirection and backgrounding
[02:18:36] wagnerrp: aside from simply parsing out arguments
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[02:59:36] Beirdo: yeah
[02:59:39] Captain_Murdoch: wagnerrp, yeah, that can/should be backported. I meant to do so after a few days but forgot about it.
[03:00:06] wagnerrp: taylorr: ^^^^^
[03:00:30] Captain_Murdoch: doh, :) sorry.
[03:00:43] wagnerrp: not even the same first letter...
[03:01:10] Captain_Murdoch: no, I was reading one line of scrollback and replying to another. :)
[03:02:36] taylorr: Captain_Murdoch: cool, I was cleaning up my 0.24-fixes backports and noticed it
[03:03:06] Captain_Murdoch: if you want to take care of it, go ahead. or if not, I can commit it.
[03:03:56] taylorr: in the middle of some stuff right now, but if you don't get to it by the time I'm done I'll take care of it
[03:04:11] Captain_Murdoch: I can commit now if it's not in your tree already.
[03:04:57] taylorr: go for it
[03:07:04] Captain_Murdoch: ok, done. I had the log and everything already open...
[03:07:16] Captain_Murdoch: thanks for the reminder.
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[03:24:19] _klk_: hi all. i am running mythcommflag manually on some captured video. i noticed that the frame rate it achieves is around double what i can achieve in my own program that uses libav to decode video. the video is x264-encoded in mkv container. is there anything special in the usage of libav in mythtv that enables this?
[03:32:53] taylorr: Captain_Murdoch: thanks!
[03:34:40] Captain_Murdoch: _klk_, using multiple threads could be helping us some. our input ringbuffer has it's own readahead thread. I'm pretty sure decoding happens in another thread and we just pull decoded frames out of a buffer.
[03:35:22] ** Captain_Murdoch hasn't touched the player code in a while, but it appears that we still use the decoder thread even for commercial flagging. **
[03:35:52] taylorr: I thought we did some optimizations for commflagging like skip_loop and lower rez, etc
[03:36:26] Beirdo: the only work for mpeg2 IIRC
[03:36:29] Captain_Murdoch: I think you have to turn those on. but yes, there was one patch by Daniel to speed up h264 decoding by only decoding into 1/4 resolution or something like that.
[03:37:00] Captain_Murdoch: s/those/the lower rez one/
[03:37:01] Captain_Murdoch: :)
[03:38:07] _klk_: ah, interesting.
[03:38:16] _klk_: i can try implementing readahead in a separate thread
[03:38:21] _klk_: right now i'm doing reading / processing on same thread
[03:38:30] _klk_: i need full resolution decoding of h264 unfortunately ;PO
[03:38:30] Beirdo: but as of the latest ffmpeg pull, that doesn't work anymore IIRC
[03:38:50] _klk_: it looks like libav 0.7 supports frame level multithreaded decoding for h264
[03:38:55] _klk_: so that might speed things up as well
[03:39:02] Captain_Murdoch: Beirdo, yeah, I seem to recall something like that.
[03:39:03] Beirdo: the 1/4 resolution stuff in the H264 decoder got disabled
[03:39:45] Beirdo: at least that was my recollection
[03:44:28] wagnerrp: _klk_: anything encoded with x264 properly should be multi-sliced
[03:44:36] wagnerrp: meaning it is inherently multithreaded
[03:44:42] wagnerrp: as many threads as you have slices
[03:44:57] wagnerrp: generally, you only have to worry about single threaded video coming out of a hardware encoder
[03:45:04] wagnerrp: (like an HDPVR)
[03:46:12] _klk_: wagnerrp: interesting. is there a way to set the number of slices when encoding h264 using libav?
[03:46:37] wagnerrp: does libav have its own encoder? i thought they required you link in x264
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[03:49:12] _klk_: ah, yeah, taht's what i meant. but you can set options to the x264 encoder through libav
[03:49:31] wagnerrp: im sure you can, but i wouldnt know how
[03:50:03] wagnerrp: if you dont set it, it will default to no.cores*2 or +1, i dont remember which
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[07:55:24] stuarta: stuartm: even tho i've moved, i'm still on Crystal Palace yes
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[09:01:02] stuartm: stuarta: user having trouble with mux C on Crystal Palace – http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9976
[09:12:29] stuarta: just started a test recording from Sky News and it's recording fine.
[09:29:06] stuartm: cool
[09:31:10] stuarta: he probably just deleted the channels and not the transports and there's an overlap between the old muxes and the new ones
[09:31:20] stuarta: *conflicting overlap
[09:32:05] stuarta: i really need to finish migrating my prod backend to new hardware....
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[16:21:19] stuartm: Beirdo: having played with it for a while I think that astyle would be great for cleaning up submitted patches and imported code as a first pass
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[16:21:58] stuartm: it doesn't seem possible to make it do everything we want and when run against existing code it even undoes some stuff, so it's never going to be something we might automate or mandate
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[16:22:36] stuartm: unless of course we decide that the positives outweigh the negatives
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[17:07:04] Beirdo: stuartm: cool. It certainly looks to get us a lot closer anyways.
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[17:33:22] dblain: danielk22: Thanks for researching QtScript issue. When I find some time I'll see if that solves the problem.
[17:39:32] danielk22: dblain: I have a patch, untested, I can put it up somewhere.. gimme a sec
[17:40:51] danielk22: dblain: http://pastebin.com/tSzJ3J4M
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[19:01:38] taylorr: danielk22: would this be an acceptable solution to the livetv channel browsing bug in 0.24-fixes? -> http://pastebin.com/imWJCbj5
[19:01:54] taylorr: it's fixed in master but you felt it was too invasive to backport
[19:02:45] danielk22: taylorr: sure if that works, go for it.
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[22:36:07] azexian: I have a dvb-s card but no satellite, can I connect it to my standard tv antenna and get terrestrial tv?
[22:36:54] azexian: sorry just noticed it's dev only, changed channel
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[22:46:06] daxroc: Evening all
[22:47:37] daxroc: I have a hguppauge hdpvr, Does any one know How I enable the passtru function on linux I can view the stream using vlc but it wont passthru to the TV ?
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[22:56:08] Guyverix: daxroc, did you read the wiki? it says specificaly do NOT use VLC to access the tuner after it is set up for myth
[22:58:49] Guyverix: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Index.php/Hauppauge_HD-PVR Looks like it works, but is temperamental to set up. You might have to mess with the settings a bit further..
[23:18:18] iamlindoro: daxroc: Guyverix: Take it to the correct channel, please, see topic
[23:18:21] iamlindoro: yuo want #mythtv-users
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