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[00:04:43] | sphery: | j-rod|afk: BTW, probably should have mentioned this to you last night, too, but we now have a patch in 0.24-fixes that allows for compilation on systems based on 2.6.38 kernel headers, so it would be great if you could push to get an updated RPM build in the package manager (for F14, I think--or whichever the new one with the 2.6.38 base is) |
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[12:32:38] | danielk221: | Has anyone noticed with recent compiles that occasionally the menus stop being drawn and instead the screen quickly alternates between a light blue and black. The only way I've found to stop it is to start playing a recording. It happens on two machines here with different nvidia cards. |
[12:33:04] | danielk221: | Note: I can't compile the latest right now because the of the Qt 4.6 requirement. |
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[14:04:40] | j-rod: | sphery: did an updated build sometime yesterday w/that fix included |
[14:07:32] | markk: | danielk221: try -O UIPainter=qt |
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[14:23:54] | markk: | taylorr: have you been following the 'advanced playback options' thread on the dev list? |
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[14:49:48] | sphery: | j-rod: thanks |
[14:50:04] | taylorr: | markk: yes, I'm downloading the file now |
[14:50:23] | taylorr: | sounds like the same Matroska issue I have with the file I sent you |
[14:51:14] | taylorr: | did you check to see how bursty the file access is for his sample? |
[14:52:29] | markk: | taylorr: I've not checked the bitrate details, but it seems to be worse than your file. both play back fine over nfs though... |
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[14:53:34] | taylorr: | markk: that's weird... the local ringbuffer should have enough buffer to handle the burstiness |
[14:54:57] | taylorr: | basically if you turn on -v file,extra you'll see ReadPriv messages and they always seem to return quickly enough |
[14:55:16] | taylorr: | the safe_read are the ones that take substantial time |
[14:57:32] | markk: | taylorr: my money is on something throttling/killing performance in the read ahead thread |
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[15:00:46] | ** j-rod has some files that play back very very badly, at least using vdpau... ** | |
[15:01:16] | taylorr: | markk: right, the safe_read calls are what does the remote transfer from the backend to the frontend's local rightbuffer and they sometimes take a substantial amount of time |
[15:01:17] | j-rod: | for some reason, stuff coming off my hdpvr started being ridden with glitches, that throw the decoder into fits |
[15:01:58] | j-rod: | not sure who/what is causing the recording issues to begin with yet though |
[15:02:10] | j-rod: | (or if it behaves badly with other decoders) |
[15:07:26] | stuarta: | we've never handled corrupt recordings very well |
[15:08:26] | j-rod: | screen gets all unintelligible, occasionally it halts entirely |
[15:08:54] | j-rod: | if you can get past the hiccup point by skipping, video is perfect again |
[15:10:20] | j-rod: | at least with mpeg2, I've never seen much in the way of stuff the decoder wasn't able to recover from on its own |
[15:12:57] | danielk221: | I don't really like the safe_read calls, I think of those as a too long lived hack.. We could deal with errors better at a higher level. Got rid of those in the threaded file writer recently... |
[15:14:06] | danielk221: | markk: will do |
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[15:17:09] | markk: | danielk221: that suggestion was of course just to test whether it was an opengl problem, not a permanent solution :) |
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[15:17:53] | danielk221: | yep :) |
[15:18:30] | taylorr: | yes, just use Qt painter, local file playback and non-vdpau decoding and all is well :) |
[15:18:45] | j-rod: | win |
[15:24:23] | taylorr: | daniek221: I'm assuming that the safe_read() calls don't block the decoder from reading the file – so if that's the case then as long as there is enough data in the readahead buffer the decoder should perform well |
[15:25:40] | taylorr: | I didn't "see" the readahead buffer get completely drained when playing back the problematic matroska file but I may have not looked at things correctly |
[15:26:43] | taylorr: | but with Kyle Rose saying that increasing the buffer size and fill threshold it would seem that we are indeed completely draining the readahead buffer at times |
[15:27:25] | taylorr: | if that's the case then the safe_read() taking large amounts of time would be the culprit |
[15:34:17] | markk: | taylorr: so – networked playback of your file isn't great with a default setup. mount the file with nfs and it's fine (using the same slow, wifi connection). add a readahead thread to the http streaming ringbuffer and playback is fine. all of which seems to point the finger at RemoteFile |
[15:36:16] | markk: | or maybe it's just the inefficiency of having ' file handlers', both with readahead threads, at both ends of the connection. (nfs playback and http streaming both avoid any myth ringbuffer code on the server end) |
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[15:47:21] | taylorr: | markk: when using the remote file ringbuffer so you notice the readahead getting completely drained? that's what confuses me |
[15:49:02] | taylorr: | fyi, I've just looked at this from the frontend ringbuffer perspective |
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[15:53:15] | markk: | taylorr: time for bed here – I'll try and have another dig in the morning |
[15:55:03] | taylorr: | markk: ok, sorry I haven't been much help lately – my wife has taken control of my laptop for scrapbooking purposes :) |
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[15:55:57] | zertyu: | hello there |
[15:56:04] | zertyu: | since one week i m getting tired with mythtv configuration with my freebox |
[15:56:14] | zertyu: | can able to watch live channel with mythtv |
[15:56:31] | zertyu: | this my backend http://paste.ubuntu.com/615415/ |
[15:56:40] | zertyu: | and frontend http://paste.ubuntu.com/615416/ |
[15:56:52] | zertyu: | can't understand what's wrong |
[15:58:28] | j-rod: | zertyu: see /topic |
[15:59:21] | zertyu: | is that mythtv official channel ? |
[15:59:53] | j-rod: | its the official users channel, yes |
[15:59:56] | iamlindoro: | zertyu: #mythtv-users is the correct channel for your question, please be patient, sometimes it takes a long time to get answers |
[16:00:21] | zertyu: | ok |
[16:06:17] | zertyu: | seems noone there iamlindoro |
[16:06:45] | zertyu: | and m not thinking that's an official channel |
[16:08:36] | iamlindoro: | It is an official channel |
[16:08:47] | iamlindoro: | This is the development channel, the other is the user channel |
[16:09:05] | iamlindoro: | You need to be patient. Sometimes that means waiting many hours for an answer |
[16:10:05] | zertyu: | are you dev ? |
[16:11:09] | iamlindoro: | yes |
[16:12:02] | zertyu: | you don't understand from my pastebin ? |
[16:17:55] | iamlindoro: | zertyu: You are in the wrong channel. Please patiently wait for your answer in the correct channel. |
[16:18:56] | iamlindoro: | I am not answering in #mythtv-users because I don't have time to provide user support this morning. That doesn't mean it's okay to break our rules and follow up here. Please ask any further questions in the correct channel. |
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[17:11:38] | danielk221: | markk: taylorr: RemoteFile's Ringbuffer also no idea about the bitrate of the video. We don't pass that info through so it's always just relying on the automatic buffer scaling. Still, I would expect that make problems after seeks, but to work fine once the streaming gets going. |
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[20:58:59] | iamlindoro: | paul-h: You keep teasing me with these commits, I always check yours anxiously to see if the big MythMusic drop has arrived :) |
[20:59:25] | iamlindoro: | Which, upon further consideration, is probably a pretty good way of making sure people ready your commits |
[20:59:55] | iamlindoro: | s/ready/read/ |
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[21:40:03] | paul-h: | iamlindoro: I might just surprise you one day :) |
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[22:20:30] | stuartm: | paul-h: nice, I've been making a real effort lately to sort out my album art including embedding it in those files I ripped from CD and being able to make some of the alterations from within myth will make it a lot easier (since I most often notice the cover art issues when playing music in mythmusic) |
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[22:42:37] | paul-h: | stuartm: I hope to commit the mythui metadata editor in the next few days which allows you to read and write the embedded album art and even to search google for images which you can then add to the tag. |
[22:46:21] | stuartm: | we'll finally be rid of that really annoying year editor issue |
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