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| [00:25:14] | markk_: | stuartm: that commit seems like the only obvious candidate but I can't see why it would break which screen to use – did you try rolling back? |
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| [02:02:22] | elmojo: | markk_: not sure why you assigned #9666 to me – the slider position/duration changes should have nothing to do with playback issues |
| [02:03:48] | elmojo: | the real problem though is that I don't have any time right now because I'm too busy with work |
| [02:08:14] | markk_: | elmojo: no worries – I just thought it was related to the stuff you'd been working on |
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| [02:12:57] | elmojo: | markk_: I still want to clean up any remaining issues with av-sync and position/duration before the next release |
| [02:14:35] | markk_: | I think you'll have plenty of time:) |
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| [08:59:16] | markk_: | oops – let's try that again in the correct window... |
| [08:59:28] | markk_: | stuartm: any views on adding a MythUIVisualiser widget to libmythui? I have something fleshed out – just not sure what the best solution is... |
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| [11:32:23] | bash`: | hi all |
| [11:32:34] | bash`: | how to check if mythtv python bindings are installed? |
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| [11:34:59] | bash`: | I'm on linux |
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| [11:46:33] | jamesba: | python |
| [11:46:37] | jamesba: | >>> import MythTV |
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| [11:48:35] | bash`: | jamesba: thanks! |
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| [14:52:37] | davide: | Beirdo: regarding 3bb2d89e, i think both the old and new code are wrong. qt's qSort takes an stl-like compare function which returns true for < and false for >= instead of a libc-like compare function which returns -1/0/1. see http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.5/qtalgorithms.html#qSort-2. i meant to check on that yesterday when it first came up, but never got around to it. |
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| [16:37:58] | danielk22: | davide: Beirdo: While we're looking at that code.. My bet would be that qStableSort is probably better than a qSort for lists in the UI. It won't reorder == things randomly and it is likely faster when the list is already sorted from the DB. |
| [16:39:57] | danielk22: | Also depending on the containers, we might also just be able to use the STL sort/stable_sort functions not need to rewrite those comparison functions. |
| [16:51:35] | davide: | danielk22, Beirdo: yes, qStableSort is probably a better choice than qSort. |
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| [17:13:38] | sphery: | markk_: FWIW, wagnerrp fixed the trac integration in github/our commit hooks/whatever... You can use references/refs/ref/re/see or closes/closed/close/fixes/fixed/fix in your commit messages to have the comment automatically added to trac (and the ticket closed for closes/fixes stuff). |
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| [17:33:28] | Beirdo: | danielk22: good point. :) |
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| [18:53:34] | stuartm: | markk_: I wanted to avoid it, one of my goals for mythui was to reduce the number of widgets and especially those widgets which would be so specialised that they were only used in one or two places – clearly there had to be exceptions e.g. the guide grid |
| [18:55:19] | stuartm: | markk_: but I do grudgingly accept that the visualiser would best be done in the painters so I'm torn, paul-h was going to re-use the video widget for the job and that has potential since we can use the same widget to display visualisations _and_ music videos etc |
| [18:56:02] | stuartm: | I think it might be an idea to discuss it with paul-h since he's already ported that stuff in his tree |
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| [21:01:41] | paul-h: | markk_: I added this some time ago and is what I've been using to test the mythui friendly visualisers – https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/6fd38760e |
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| [22:07:55] | stuartm: | heh, Google are claiming they can strip code of it's GPLv2 license conditions if they just remove all the comments ... |
| [22:08:15] | Beirdo: | say waht? |
| [22:08:55] | Beirdo: | If someone there is saying that, I hope they have a new job lined up, they are likely to get fired soon |
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| [22:12:36] | stuartm: | apparently that's the company line and they've done exactly that with 750 kernel files in Android, stripping comments then changing the license from GPLv2 to the incompatible Apache license |
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| [22:12:59] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:13:06] | stuartm: | it's causing a stir ... |
| [22:13:13] | Beirdo: | well, they will be losing that battle in court if they get sued |
| [22:13:41] | Beirdo: | either that or GPLv2 ain't worth spit. |
| [22:14:22] | danielk22: | stuartm: it's all header files.. which traditionally aren't copyrightable in the US at least. |
| [22:15:26] | Beirdo: | why wouldn't header files (which are just source files) be copyrightable? |
| [22:16:01] | Beirdo: | there is no real difference between a .h file and a .c or .cpp file other than the extenstion |
| [22:17:45] | danielk22: | Beirdo: the contents are different. Code of sufficient complexity is copyrightable, interfaces and symbol names are not. So an inline function implemented in a header would be copyrightable.. but I don't think anyone is claiming they incorporated any code. |
| [22:17:54] | stuartm: | should be interesting to see how it plays out, I can see and understand the logic behind APIs not being copyrightable – that's beneficial to all, but ... |
| [22:17:57] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [22:18:10] | Beirdo: | I still think it's bogus, but I see the distinction. |
| [22:19:39] | Beirdo: | yeah, making an API not subject to GPLv2 was a distinction that got made for the kernel, IIRC anyways |
| [22:19:40] | danielk22: | They created interface files automatically rather than by hand; that's why there is any question about their methods.. |
| [22:19:55] | Beirdo: | that way you can link non GPLv2 stuff to run under Linux |
| [22:20:05] | stuartm: | and the application of US law on works created in other jurisdictions is iffy – what next, someone finds a country where no copyright exists so they can strip all licenses and sell the source/product as their own? |
| [22:20:36] | Beirdo: | stuartm: I believe that place has a name. China |
| [22:21:40] | Beirdo: | speaking of China. I bought a digital oscilloscope... it arrived... the manual's all Chinese, the warranty card: Chinese... the power plug: not for USA. |
| [22:22:08] | Beirdo: | good thing it takes a standard plug, and says 110–240V 50–60Hz on the back |
| [22:22:37] | stuartm: | I'm not sure what rules would hold in the UK, but I suspect it would be similar to the 'database right' – you cannot copyright facts but you can copyright the formatting |
| [22:22:51] | danielk22: | stuartm: The law is similar in other major jurisdictions. In the case of the Linux kernel it's probably Finnish law that applies. ;] No idea what it says about reverse engineering.. |
| [22:23:13] | danielk22: | stuartm: my understanding is their tool obliterated the pre-existing formatting.. |
| [22:23:13] | Beirdo: | Finnish + US |
| [22:23:25] | Beirdo: | I mean Linus has been in the US for how long now? |
| [22:23:32] | stuartm: | e.g. you cannot take a recipe and strip out the authors name and comments, but keep everything else – you need to write out that recipe in your own hand |
| [22:23:45] | Beirdo: | and the code he originally wrote is likely long gone too |
| [22:24:24] | Beirdo: | I'm thankful I'm not an IP Lawyer by trade |
| [22:24:31] | Beirdo: | makes my head wanna explode |
| [22:25:55] | Beirdo: | Ooh, just found the english manual online. Yoink. |
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| [22:39:18] | sphery: | danielk22: The claim is that the whole of the interface with the Linux kernel is sufficiently complex to warrant copyright protection--it goes well beyond POSIX or *nix standards. But, yeah, will be interesting to watch and see what comes of it. I do agree that it sounds a lot like magic to just "wash" the GPLv2 off of some software. |
| [22:39:45] | danielk22: | This is way off topic.. Beirdo: AFAIK the copyright of the original work is matters most. stuartm: that's definitely mootable. Like the google book case, it might even be a case they'd like to lose, since losing such a case would hurt would be competitors and not google (google can afford a cleanroom). |
| [22:42:50] | Beirdo: | yeah. I can see that. |
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| [23:51:33] | lwizardl: | would plugin dev be this channel or the users one ? |
| [23:54:31] | wagnerrp: | if youre interested in coding, this is the right place |
| [23:54:48] | lwizardl: | ok |
| [23:55:58] | lwizardl: | I'm interested in finding or trying to make something to save youtube streams in mythtv |
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| [23:56:19] | wagnerrp: | already available, mythnetvision |
| [23:56:33] | lwizardl: | didn't see anything on google searches for it. where would i start reading on scripting for mythtv |
| [23:56:41] | lwizardl: | hmm |
| [23:57:35] | lwizardl: | ok seems thats it. |
| [23:58:49] | lwizardl: | does that automatically grab for example all your "subscribed" channels videos or just what ever ones you view |
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| [23:59:33] | wagnerrp: | it does not at current support cookies, so there is no way to log in to get subscribed channels |
| [23:59:52] | lwizardl: | ah ok |
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