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Thursday, February 17th, 2011, 00:04 UTC
[00:04:03] kormoc: Beirdo, 1995, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso646.h
[00:04:40] kormoc: or rather, it went into C in 1995, and c++ 98 also has it
[00:05:05] Beirdo: interesting. Anyways, best to stick with ! and keep it sane with the rest of the code :)
[00:05:13] kormoc: it's also supported in VS.net 2003 or newer, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/413s09yw.aspx
[00:05:39] kormoc: just need to add iso646.h as a header
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[00:25:10] GreyFoxx: Anyone else having trouble getting the FE to load plugins ? I just updated and now plugins all fail to load
[00:25:12] GreyFoxx: 2011-02–16 20:24:33.192 Unable to initialize plugin 'mythvideo'.
[00:25:12] GreyFoxx: 2011-02–16 20:24:33.194 MythPlugin::init() dlerror:
[00:28:04] Beirdo: this is master?
[00:28:10] Beirdo: or 0.24?
[00:28:52] Beirdo: you may need to do make distclean *AND* delete old installed includes/library files
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[00:33:29] sphery: Beirdo / GreyFoxx : It looks like somehow the symbol visibility stuff may have been enabled on the plugins for the first time, ever. nm -gC /usr/local/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmythmusic.so (and even without -g and -C)
[00:34:03] sphery: seems mythplugin_init() isn't exported?
[00:34:45] sphery: ah, wait, nvm... same way on my 0.24, so that's not it
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[00:35:32] Beirdo: well, I know my frontend is running, but I can't easily try the plugins from here
[00:35:38] Beirdo: so.. tonight, sure :)
[00:36:51] sphery: ah, yeah, not exporting mythplugin_init()... It's dynamic, though, so: nm -gDC /usr/local/lib/mythtv/plugins/libmythmusic.so | grep mythplugin_init
[00:37:12] sphery: (sorry, the theory was right, the test was wrong :)
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[00:39:10] Beirdo: we'll have to be sure to fix that crap
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[01:57:56] GreyFoxx: grrr, had a power outage RIGHT after I said that last sentence
[01:58:18] GreyFoxx: but yes, running "master"
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[02:09:23] GreyFoxx: and if I do not use the --enable-symbol-visibility config option some stuff fails to compile hehe
[02:09:37] GreyFoxx: looks like it's time to revert , once I figure out how to do that in git
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[02:50:23] sphery: dblain: you around?
[02:50:51] sphery: dblain: I'm fixing up plugin symbol visibility stuff and not exactly sure what your compiler will need...
[02:52:34] sphery: I currently have mythmusic fixed, by creating a musicexp.h, with MMUSIC_API to define MMUSIC_PUBLIC , but I'm leaning toward instead doing pluginexp.h with MPLUGIN_API to define MPLUGIN_PUBLIC--so when people use one plugin as a template for a new one, they'll have less to change (or leave less "music" garbage)
[02:53:06] sphery: Just don't know if your compiler requires a different define name for each plugin
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[03:23:52] sphery: dblain: nvm, Beirdo and I have come up with a simpler fix, that I think is more what you were expecting
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[03:37:56] dblain: sphery: I think you could use a single define for all plugins, since they are never included in other projects. As long as it isn't the same as one of the libs.
[03:38:58] sphery: dblain: cool, the approach I've got now is to change libs/libmyth/mythexp.h to #if defined(MYTH_API) || defined(MPLUGIN_API), then to add a DEFINES += MPLUGIN_API to each plugin .pro, then put MPUBLIC before the mythplugin_init()
[03:39:02] sphery: just testing, now
[03:39:08] dblain: The main problem I had to fix was when lib A was included in lib B... A's headers needed dllimport while B's needed dllexport.
[03:40:58] sphery: ah, I see. makes sense, now
[03:41:22] dblain: I'm not familiar with what dependencies plugins need. on the surface it looks ok as long as all plugins need libmyth.
[03:42:53] dblain: was this an existing issue? I'm trying to understand how my changes might of caused an issue with the plugins.
[03:42:54] sphery: yeah, it was mythpluginapi.h's including libmyth's mythexp.h that allows for the clean approach. Beirdo suggested using MPLUGIN_API in case someone changes MYTH_API some day--that way they'll at least be more likely to not break plugins :)
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[03:43:21] dblain: sounds like a plan
[03:44:03] dblain: I think it makes sense now. It's because I added the MYTH_API define...
[03:44:20] Beirdo: yup :) It's been a brain scratcher :)
[03:45:11] dblain: I specifically left MPUBLIC for this library, so much for no-impact. Thanks for looking into this. This is the earliest I could get back to the computer tonight.
[03:46:31] dblain: do you know why GreyFoxx couldn't compile without --disable-symbol-visibility? I just compiled with the configuration without error. (granted, I still haven't compiled the plugins)
[03:46:52] dblain: s/without/with
[03:47:08] Beirdo: not 100% sure, but I think it's related
[03:47:54] Beirdo: and for Lawrence Rust's ticket... well, we aren't gonna revert without trying to fix problems, generally :)
[03:48:47] Beirdo: #9586
[03:49:47] sphery: dblain: he was compiling without specifying --enable-symbol-visibility. He didn't realize that it's now enabled by default and requires a --disable-symbol-visibility . I mentioned it in #-users, and he hasn't pinged me, so I think it worked for him with --disable-symbol-visibility.
[03:50:08] dblain: thanks, that makes more sense.
[03:50:10] Beirdo: ahhh, of course, yeah. that default was changed
[03:50:53] dblain: I guess I need to start building the plugins. I don't use them, so I tend to forget about them :/
[03:51:12] sphery: yeah, lots of changes to keep up with, so for those people who actually have lives, it can be easy to miss things... having said that, I'm wondering if I should have admitted to not missing this...
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[03:52:12] Beirdo: heh
[03:54:08] ** dblain think it's time to increase the number of cpu's on his build VM... it's taking way to long to compile. **
[03:54:19] Beirdo: OK, i'm going to ignore the -users ML tonight before I tell someone that he's an idiot.
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[03:58:13] dblain: I've given up on the user-ML... having a hard enough time keeping up with irc and the dev-ML
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[04:03:19] xris: dblain: I ignore -user and -dev, with filters for certain things I care about
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[05:00:36] elmojo: markk_: found an issue with the pts fixups code when seeking in an m2ts with VC1 video
[05:01:09] elmojo: you ever notice AV-sync issues with Bluray rips?
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[05:16:13] markk_: elmojo: no real issues in steady state – might explain some problems around discontinuities though ?
[05:17:00] elmojo: markk_: I believe discontinuities could cause an issue
[05:17:15] elmojo: depending if the timestamps got smaller or something
[05:18:34] elmojo: I think about it some more and try to determine what we should do – we definitely have to do fixups for missing timestamps and then only case I think we might out to handle is when the new pts is the same as previous
[05:19:03] elmojo: the wrap case is what makes this non-trivial
[05:19:56] elmojo: and discontinuities
[05:23:04] elmojo: markk_: the problem with this one specific video is that a spurious reordered_opaque timestamp is triggered a few frames after a seek is performed – it's obviously something not getting reset properly in ffmpeg when a seek is performed but it's enough to through off our fixup code
[05:29:07] markk_: elmojo: is this m2ts file directly or actual bluray playback?
[05:30:08] elmojo: yes
[05:30:23] elmojo: it's a rip
[05:31:58] elmojo: it'd be great if I knew what videos out there really needed the fixups that way it's currently designed
[05:32:56] elmojo: basically we just need to avoid tracking a bogus timestamp when the demuxed/decoder is providing perfectly good ones after the bogus one
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[06:44:03] knightr: kormoc, for MythWeb flash player do you think mythffmpeg could be scanned for too (in addition to ffmpeg)? (in set_flvplayer.php and stream_flv.pl) I tried it and it seemed to work A-OK...
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[14:46:01] _Nuetron_: hey everyone... I bought a hauppauge 850 and did a fresh install of mythubuntu 10.10 and have been having a heck of a time getting it to work.. I finally found I have the newest version of the 850 (USB ID 2040:b140) and need kernel 2.6.37, i'm going to try that but if it fails I'm just going to take back the card and find one that works. Does anyone know if the ATI wonder 650 is supported? found it on craigslist for $25.00
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[14:48:48] justinh: _Nuetron_: maybe you need #mythtv-users
[14:49:09] _Nuetron_: ok, thank you
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[16:58:16] ** iamlindoro casually notes that CD-ROM is an acronym and should be completely capitalized **
[16:58:41] iamlindoro: and that the referenced sentence is missing a comma ;)
[16:59:06] iamlindoro: (and should probably do without "then")
[17:01:04] ** stuartm makes a rude gesture **
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[17:06:21] kormoc: knightr, Aye, we should use mythffmpeg by default
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[17:19:09] stuartm: iamlindoro: if you want to fix up the string then feel free
[17:20:02] iamlindoro: stuartm: Was mostly teasing, will change it when/if I find time
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[21:04:55] elmojo: janneu: do you think we should perform timestamp fixups for any situation other than missing timestamps or non-increasing timestamps?
[21:06:06] elmojo: jannau: ^^^
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[22:29:56] ptriller: Hi, I just wrote ebuild files for Genoo for nuvexport and the mythtvthemes, are you interrested in them  ?
[22:37:24] stuarta: i'd suggest talking to the gentoo maintainer, we pull his ebuilds in to our git
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[22:51:19] ptriller: The official gentoo mythtv maintainer ?
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[22:54:14] kormoc: ptriller, create a push request and we'll get it in
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