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Thursday, February 10th, 2011, 00:02 UTC
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[01:16:44] Chutt: Captain_Murdoch, address for the foundation to put on the domains?
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[03:21:11] iamlindoro: markk, Player startup thanks to the changes of the last 48 hours is just astonishing
[03:21:20] iamlindoro: and responsiveness in the OSD too, it feels like
[03:21:25] iamlindoro: amazing work
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[04:40:38] markk: iamlindoro: well I'll have to look into a few good regressions then :)
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[05:05:09] elmojo: markk: pinged Naren – it's been 3 months and we haven't heard anything yet about the crystal hd problem(s) we reported
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[05:09:23] markk: elmojo: cool – I've not been following the ffmpeg-crystalhd stuff either – any progress there? (I'm wondering if they'll get to bcm70012 support before us – I'
[05:09:37] markk: I've got a couple of people asking about it
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[06:25:47] markk: iamlindoro: I suspect you have a bigger sample set to test with – but I think it may be worth automatically falling back to title navigation mode for bluray if any unsupported titles are found. They invariably seem to fail at some point even if they start out ok.
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[07:48:45] sphery: markk: I'm not sure what you thought of kormoc's and wagnerrp's idea to auto-select the UI renderer, but I threw together this patch with their idea and the direction you pointed me. It seems to work, here--in that it's detecting indirect OpenGL rendering via ssh -Y and falling back to Qt and detects direct rendering when using the local display and uses OpenGL renderer. I'm not sure how it would react to things like compositing window ...
[07:48:52] sphery: ... managers, or whether we want to allow OpenGL rendering sometimes when it's indirect. Anyway, I think you are more qualified to determine if it's a worthwhile change or better left as is. http://misc.thirdcontact.com/MythTV/mythtv-ch . . . ically.patch
[07:59:30] markk: sphery: looks pretty good – I guess the only question is – do we allow for some form of override? (e.g. theme developers needing to test Qt, broken OpenGL install needs to force Qt)
[08:01:21] wagnerrp: IMHO, thats what config.xml settings should be for
[08:01:24] sphery: markk: does make sense--I just went all out figuring we'd come up with a good way to override... We could do a setting (UIRenderer, just to get a different name?) and default to auto, but allow users to start with -O UIRenderer=opengl or whatever?
[08:01:56] sphery: setting without a widget should be fine, I'd think
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[08:35:58] sphery: markk: Updated patch, allows override with UIPainter setting (default auto, no widget, currently). I'll hold off on it for a while. I have a feeling it may disable OpenGL for people using compositing WMs, so I'd like to find someone to test it with Compiz or something.
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[08:49:50] Beirdo: elmojo: I have the duration stuff nearly working to my satisfaction here. I plan on letting it soak in a bit to make sure I didn't miss something obvious, and then hopefully merge it later in the week
[08:51:01] Beirdo: at the end of recording, it stores the recendts – recstartts (in ms in the db)
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[08:51:36] Beirdo: during commflag run (should you have one), it will calculate using your patch, and resave
[08:51:50] Beirdo: likewise with a mythcommflag --rebuild
[08:52:18] Beirdo: then on playback, it will try to read from the db first, if that's 0, then uses ffmpeg's duration as before
[08:55:35] Beirdo: the during-recording part could perhaps use some magic to actually get it from parsers, etc, as we discussed, or maybe even be disabled, I dunno. We'll see what seems to work best
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[10:23:30] mycosys: hey guys – lil question, does libmyth-perl provide the same functionality and calls as libmythtv-perl? there is a package name change under ubuntu which is stuffing stuff up for me (0.22)
[10:25:16] mycosys: i suppose mostly wondering if mythexport will work with libmythtv-perl, when it says it depends on libmyth-perl (can always do a build if it will)
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[10:32:17] stuartm: mycosys: the guys in #ubuntu-mythtv should be able to answer that question, the MythTV developers have no knowledge of the names they've assigned to their packages
[10:33:09] mycosys: just thought u would know if there was some massive change in the way myth used perl in 0.22 (went from 0.22 pre release to 0.22 and the package changed)
[10:33:14] mycosys: but thx, am asking there
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[10:35:30] stuartm: mycosys: there was no such change, although I wouldn't trust my memory that far back, we're on version 0.24, 0.22 was released in 2009
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[10:36:18] mycosys: i know, always been told to treat a myth server like an appliance, if it aint broke dont fix it
[10:37:35] stuartm: that's good advice, I just can't testify to anything relating to a version that old, I really cannot remember :)
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[15:41:48] iamlindoro: markk: I can make that change-- I do have a number of discs with both supported and unsupported HDMV titles, but not sure any of them have HDMV menus and unsupported "title titles"
[15:42:11] iamlindoro: still, it should be a perfectly safe change to make as better safe than sorry
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[15:43:12] iamlindoro: I'll do up a patch and test in the next day or two
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[17:54:27] Beirdo: elmojo: a follow up from last night: I think this code is good to go. I'll test it a while longer though :)
[17:54:46] Beirdo: I have a nominally 1h show in the db as 3694118ms
[17:54:51] Beirdo: sorry
[17:54:57] Beirdo: 3594118ms
[17:55:16] Beirdo: stupid fingers. so about 6s short of the full hour. Sounds right to me
[17:59:36] jcarlos: reynaldo: Have you seen my Spanish translation patch ?
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[19:49:04] elmojo: Beirdo: awesome, we can evaluate a variety of sources and compare each type of duration calc we have at our disposal: actual recoring time, ic->duration, cumulative pkt->duration and then check against mediainfo and maybe others
[19:50:30] elmojo: Beirdo: it might be useful to store both the actual recording duration and the commflag generated duration – we might find one more reliable than the other
[19:50:54] elmojo: at a minimum it's nice for comparison sake
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[21:07:36] Beirdo: Well, the "actual" isn't too accurate that I've seen as it rounds it up to the nearest minute, best I've noticed
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[21:08:02] Beirdo: but it's easily calculated from the data in the programinfo/recordinginfo
[21:08:40] Beirdo: but yeah, we can look at differing ways to calculate
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[21:50:50] elmojo: Beirdo: one sec granularity is fine for duration – I'll immediately close any ticket complaining about a 1 sec delta for duration :)
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[21:53:39] iamlindoro: The only thing more certain than the response is the liklihood of someone opening a ticket about it
[21:53:48] Beirdo: hehe
[21:54:01] Beirdo: agreed there.
[21:54:47] Beirdo: if 1s is the worst we are are off, we are way ahead of before.
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[22:34:40] stuartm: danielk22: http://miffteevee.co.uk/filebin/Colloseum.mpg – Teletext Interactive (not pretty)
[22:34:44] stuartm: danielk22: uploading a teletext subtitle sample now
[22:35:04] stuartm: but my upstream bandwidth is ridiculously small
[22:38:52] danielk22: stuarm:HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[22:43:30] stuartm: meh, can't spell Colosseum ;) but it's not working for me at the correct url either – http://miffteevee.co.uk/filebin/Colosseum.mpg – give me a minute to figure out why
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[22:45:33] stuartm: danielk22: ok working at the above url now
[22:46:42] stuartm: danielk22: http://miffteevee.co.uk/filebin/sample24243.mpg – Teletext subtitles (Channel 7, Australia)
[22:48:20] stuartm: I'll find/record some more stuff and upload it when I get the time, even if no-one needs it now it's there for the future
[22:48:27] danielk22: thx
[22:53:11] stuartm: s/channel 7/channel 9/
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