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[15:24:47] stuartm: our warning count is going up not down
[15:35:52] iamlindoro: For general information: BBC is unable to give us any assistance in JSAPI/Remote Control integration of iPlayer, but a public and sincere thanks to jamesba and his colleagues for making the case on our behalf.
[15:36:29] iamlindoro: I had much more hope for the BBC than for evil organizations like Hulu et al, perhaps things will change in the future
[15:36:59] jamesba: it's certainly possible that they may change, but that's the situation currently
[15:37:30] jamesba: and I wouldn't get any hopes up, because it's most likely that they won't change
[15:38:14] jamesba: on the other hand I can be pretty sure that the BBC won't intentionally do anything to make it more difficult
[15:39:20] iamlindoro: sure, understood
[15:40:19] iamlindoro: maybe with them adopting a subscription model in the US and other places, an API might make sense in the future, but I daresay we're used to media organizations not wanting to help/think differently
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[16:58:46] stuartm: I suspect the paranoia is just too great unfortunately
[17:01:31] stuartm: the assumption seems to be that open source software, being associated with the word 'free' is therefore chosen by the kind of people who don't like to pay for things, changing that perception is difficult
[17:12:32] iamlindoro: Not helped by the fact that many users assume we merely disapprove of piracy or violations of ToS as a front, or to keep up appearances
[17:13:11] stuartm: yeah
[17:13:15] iamlindoro: Personally despise the "wink wink nudge nudge" stuff even more than the overt
[17:15:02] stuartm: I have never winked, nudged or given any other indication that I'm not being 100% honest when I say that MythTV as a project takes a strong anti-piracy stance
[17:15:16] iamlindoro: I know, I meant on their part :)
[17:16:37] stuartm: but then maybe the problem is that I don't speak for the project since we haven't ever had a formal discussion or agreement on the subject, it's just always been one of those things that seemed to be understood without actually being said
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[17:24:34] stuartm: speaking personally, my anti-piracy principals are tested more and more frequently as I hear news such as Sky buying up the rights for all HBO content and then airing it on a Sky-only channel ... that's not a free market at work since Sky have no competition and a very large chequebook which only gets larger as they secure the rights to more material
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[17:30:01] stuartm: still, on the upside it means I can devote more time to reading, at least until one book merchant buys up the distribution rights and then fills them with product placement, adverts and charges me a monthly subscription just to add insult
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[20:00:41] stuartm: heh, on a related note – http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitaltv/news/a2 . . . ication.html
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[21:02:45] Beirdo: stuartm: the new 10 warnings are all in spdifencoder.cpp
[21:03:20] Beirdo: seems that the libmythavformat stuff is being used... and the prototypes are not there as the header is not being included
[21:04:53] Beirdo: or something like that :)
[21:05:34] allesmueller: anyone a glue what´s wrong here? myhtranscode is almost always in futex_wait_queue_me when called from nuvexport (fixes/0.24, ubuntu 10.10, vanilla 2.6.37) – should I file an issue?
[21:06:53] Beirdo: stuartm: make that the checks that the functions are there... which shouldn't be needed at this point as we are (for now) linking with it always as it would break 2/3 of our platforms otherwise
[21:07:08] Beirdo: audio/spdifencoder.cpp:27: warning: the address of ‘AVOutputFormat* av_guess_format(const char*, const char*, const char*)’ will always evaluate as ‘true’
[21:07:28] Beirdo: gah, stupid UTF-8 paste-bork
[21:07:47] Beirdo: allesmueller: more an issue to discuss over in #mythtv-users
[21:09:07] allesmueller: well I tried it there first :) – no response ... and about 3 frames/sec transcode performance :(
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