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| [00:17:39] | jya: | happy new year everyone |
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| [00:28:32] | balor: | Is it possible to get mythfrontend to pull *everything* from the backend i.e. the mythgallery images and mythvideo videos? |
| [00:29:01] | balor: | D'oh...wrong channel |
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| [01:11:59] | Captain_Murdoch: | xris, themes.mythtv.org appears broken. works if I use services.mythtv.org as the hostname, but the theme chooser/downloader uses the themes.mythtv.org cname. |
| [01:13:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | this: http://services.mythtv.org/themes/repository/ . . . hemeinfo.xml vs this: http://themes.mythtv.org/themes/repository/tr . . . hemeinfo.xml |
| [01:14:17] | xris: | oh, didn't know that both were needed. |
| [01:16:57] | xris: | Captain_Murdoch: I've re-enabled services on the old host so that it will work |
| [01:17:30] | Captain_Murdoch: | ok, thanks. didn't want to start getting bug reports about that. :) |
| [01:17:45] | xris: | osu will be making the move soon |
| [01:17:53] | xris: | yeah, I didn't know about the additional name |
| [01:18:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | danielk22, thanks for the heads up on the bad commflag/ringbuffer issue. |
| [01:18:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | xris, no problem. I just figured it might be easier fixed tonight than tomorrow. :) thanks for the quick fix. |
| [01:19:00] | xris: | yeah |
| [01:58:58] | danielk22: | Captain_Murdoch: I my last push on the mythtv-rec branch should fix it. |
| [02:07:06] | xris: | danielk22 / Captain_Murdoch: how difficult do you guys think it'd be to code up a hardware profile submitter? |
| [02:07:27] | xris: | and other anon type usage stats |
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| [03:27:00] | danielk22: | xris: On Linux "lspci -vv ; cat /proc/modules ; uname -a" |
| [03:27:18] | danielk22: | + of course the UI |
| [03:32:43] | xris: | heh |
| [03:32:48] | xris: | easy enough, then. :) |
| [03:33:05] | xris: | I'd like to add a little geo data to it, along with tv provider names, too. |
| [03:33:20] | xris: | honestly, I want to know how many people are using mc2xml.. but other stats could be handy |
| [03:33:45] | xris: | but easy enough to do something to post a json blob to a web service? |
| [03:34:23] | xris: | we've talked about getting hardware profiles from people for awhile.. would be handy to know what people are using so we can make informed decisions about what to drop support for. |
| [03:35:15] | wagnerrp: | xris: we could add a bit of hidden code into the mythsystem stuff that refuses to run 'mc2xml' in the mythfilldatabase calls |
| [03:35:15] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [03:35:44] | wagnerrp: | just repeat a bunch of 'file not found' |
| [03:37:34] | wagnerrp: | plenty of ways to obfuscate a check like that and keep it open source |
| [03:41:49] | clever: | danielk22: what about lshw? |
| [03:42:54] | clever: | xris: ive thought about something similar, giving options like lirc keypress app back to a central server (just a inuse/ignored flag) to see who actualy uses stuff before dropping it |
| [03:47:16] | xris: | yeah, having an in-use-hardware database would be really helpful for those kinds of decisions |
| [03:47:41] | xris: | heck, having an accurate user could would help out a group like SD as far as planning international support, etc. |
| [03:49:13] | wagnerrp: | geographic data could be pulled out of the users set language |
| [03:49:35] | clever: | and posibly ip2location from the ip that uploaded |
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| [03:57:52] | clever: | will xclock install in time for the count-down! |
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| [04:05:47] | xris: | wagnerrp: and their IP |
| [04:06:04] | xris: | and then promptly delete the IP |
| [04:14:21] | xris: | guess we'd have to make that bit of the code open source to keep the hardcore types from having a fit |
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| [09:08:32] | rooaus: | xris: or do it on the client side with some server side help to determine public ip? |
| [09:15:06] | rooaus: | Throwing an idea out there, you could allow users to create an account on services.mythtv.org and use that as backup of individual be/fe settings. ie Giving the users something and the dataset shouldn't be prohibitively large. |
| [09:19:05] | rooaus: | And taking the idea further it could be used as a settings editor allowing them to be pushed (or pulled more likely) to a fe or be. Maybe it could also form part of the local html setup. |
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| [10:22:36] | xris: | rooaus: I'd rather it be as anonymous as possible... creating an account isn't anonymous |
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| [10:39:05] | rooaus: | xris: sure, I understand it is fundamental difference but thought I would brainstorm the idea. Main aspect was providing additional services that might encourage takeup and form some kind of quid pro quo. I know anon stats are of benefit to project, especially indirectly SD. Fully appreciate it is easy for me to toss ideas around without having to implement them and that is not considering legal implications if there are any. |
| [10:39:29] | xris: | yeah, but then we'd have to maintain that stuff with some sort of expected SLA, etc. |
| [10:39:53] | xris: | when those of us working on the services stuff can't even find time to upgrade the icon stuff from sqlite to mysql. heh |
| [10:40:20] | rooaus: | yeah |
| [10:41:28] | xris: | collecting stats should be a good start, though. |
| [10:41:44] | xris: | unfortunately, my vacation this week was hardly as productive as I wanted it to be |
| [10:53:52] | rooaus: | I imagine the submission would need to present the anonimised dataset locally for review by the user with a sumbit button. As long a internal ip addresses, hostnames and path segments (off the top of my head) I would have no issue. Oh and recording, video and music metadata. Could MD5 or SHA useful but sensitive info like SG path segments, IP addresses etc. Hard to tell what the rabble on -users would say though. |
| [10:54:57] | xris: | yeah, would have to come up with a list of what data to send |
| [10:55:11] | xris: | probably something like what redhat does with smolt |
| [10:55:43] | rooaus: | didn't someone have a mythsmolt prototype working? GreyFoxx or maybe someone else? |
| [10:55:55] | xris: | separate service for dealing with the recording stuff... we've talked about reviving the idea of a suggestion engine |
| [10:58:12] | rooaus: | Would there be any legal issues with that? That must be a ball breaker having to consider that for every feature or service. |
| [11:01:48] | xris: | dunno |
| [11:02:20] | xris: | haven't looked at the tivo patents |
| [11:05:03] | xris: | or just hope that they're about the specific mechanics of comparison, and then come up with our own rank |
| [11:16:42] | rooaus: | That could be an approach, it is an interesting problem. Could even allow further user input to tweak the algorithm/s. |
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| [17:06:03] | balor: | I'm in the UK, have done a channel scan on Europe-west, but get no channels. How can I go about debugging the issue? |
| [17:07:54] | balor: | Though the scan never goes beyond 5% in the progress bar (maybe that's a rendering glitch?) |
| [17:08:10] | balor: | sorry...forgot...going to -users channel |
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| [17:43:00] | balor: | Right...I'm off hunting for a switch |
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| [19:21:52] | iamlindoro: | code.mythtv.org is painfully slow ATM |
| [19:26:56] | wagnerrp: | yeah, too many people hitting it, so its locking the database |
| [19:36:07] | danielk22: | BTW Does anyone else find git to be really slow on NFS? git status takes over 6000 ms here on an NFS mount of an SSD, vs 60 ms on the NFS server. This was a practically instant operation with svn. |
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| [19:47:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | danielk22, yeah, I'm in the same boat. I've thought of moving my ~/src to a local mount because I noticed it was much faster if I run git commands directly on the fileserver. |
| [19:48:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | I've almost wondered if it has to read in the whole 180MB .pack file just to run certain git commands. |
| [19:48:52] | Captain_Murdoch: | s/almost// |
| [19:50:25] | GreyFoxx: | What is the git equivalent of "svn diff" ? |
| [19:50:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | danielk22, another feature of the design of git since it doesn't have .svn directories scattered around, it has one big .git dir. :) |
| [19:51:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | GreyFoxx, git diff |
| [19:51:16] | Captain_Murdoch: | git diff filename git diff . |
| [19:51:32] | GreyFoxx: | for some reason I got an error doing that |
| [19:51:33] | GreyFoxx: | hrm |
| [19:52:00] | GreyFoxx: | I must have had some weird invisible control characters in my cut n paste |
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| [20:00:49] | sphery: | clever: As far as lirc keypress app , even if people were using it, I'd drop it. As explained in the commit, there's no reason to use it and tons of benefits to using, er, LIRC, instead, to do LIRC things. |
| [20:01:57] | sphery: | xris / rooaus : jams is the one who did the smolt thing for MythTV: http://smolt.mythvantage.com/ |
| [20:04:18] | clever: | sphery: yeah, it would probly be better to just use irw directly for that kind of thing |
| [20:04:23] | clever: | so it works outside of mtyh |
| [20:05:06] | clever: | myth was also hanging and leaving many defunc aplay's that sometimes held myth alive even after 'eexiting |
| [20:05:41] | sphery: | clever: right, irexec can receive a message from the same button press that sends a message to mythtv--and the keypress app was called for every key repeat, so if you put an audio player on it, you get a chorus of bells when you changed the volume, etc. |
| [20:06:18] | sphery: | with irexec having a diferent lircrc config from mythtv, you can set independent repeat and delay for it |
| [20:06:18] | clever: | irexec would mean having to enter every single button into the lircrc |
| [20:07:04] | clever: | id do a blinking led over beeping anyways |
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| [20:09:24] | sphery: | Just copy/paste the mythtv section of lircrc into a new file and global replace prog = mythtv with prog = irexec and config = .* to config = aplay /path/to/my/beep.wav . But still, as said in the commit message, anyone wanting audio feedback on button press needs to submit a patch to do it right. :) |
| [20:10:01] | sphery: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 62328#462328 for ref... :) |
| [20:10:36] | clever: | id either do it with irw|read in bash, or properly using alsa within myth |
| [20:11:12] | balor: | I appear to have a setup where w_scan gets channels correctly, gnome-dvb-daemon does the same but MythTV does not. How do I go about giving you guys good data for a bug report? Can I get more verbose output on the scan? |
| [20:11:14] | sphery: | no, audio feedback for button presses should really be for actions--i.e. whether you invoke said action using a remote or keyboard or ... No LIRC hacks :) |
| [20:11:28] | clever: | ah |
| [20:11:32] | clever: | for any input device |
| [20:11:36] | sphery: | yeah |
| [20:13:03] | iamlindoro: | balor, There's no indication of a myth bug-- have you properly configured diseqc in myth according to the documentation? |
| [20:13:17] | iamlindoro: | #mythtv-users, please |
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| [20:28:41] | elmojo: | jpabq: I tried your patch against the first BBC sample but still get 843 total frames in the pos map where is should be ~1145 frames |
| [20:49:43] | jpabq: | elmojo, yeah, I didn't expect that to fix the BBC problem — it just was a convenient place to put that patch. |
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| [20:51:51] | jpabq: | It is interesting, that looking at the frame detection in H264Parser, what I am seeing is the detection of too many frames (because of frame_num), not too few. There must be some other situation that indicates a frame, that we are not looking for. |
| [20:58:59] | elmojo: | jpabq: all I know is that for the first sample (haven't looked at the second one) every video packet should be a counted frame |
| [20:59:45] | elmojo: | so the "on_frame" should be true for each packet processed by H264PreProcessPkt |
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| [21:04:19] | jpabq: | right.... What i am looking at is keyframes, not just frames. |
| [21:06:10] | xris: | sphery: slick |
| [21:08:34] | jpabq: | elmojo, I also am seeing a lot of "FU-B" NAL Units, which we completely ignore. I wonder if that is the issue? The H264 document I have doesn't even talk about "FU-A" or "FU-B" NAL types, I had to lookup those NAL unit type codes on the internet to even know what they were. No idea what it would take to actually parse them. |
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| [21:25:42] | elmojo: | jpabq: if those are the only types of packets that don't return on_frame true then it's definitely the problem |
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