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[04:18:14] | castlec1: | anyone available to help me with compilation of the hello world plugin? http://pastebin.ca/2005271 |
[04:20:07] | iamlindoro: | castlec1, You asked in the right channel before |
[04:20:43] | castlec1: | sorry. i'm just looking for help so i can start contributing. |
[04:21:11] | iamlindoro: | already answered in users |
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[07:08:40] | jya: | finally fixed #9282.. 600 lines patch :( |
[07:10:37] | jya: | turned out the AC3 encoder can't work with more than 128kB of data, the upmixer can't deal with > 8192 bytes, the resampler same... and here we have ffmpeg returning > 100kB of samples in one go... when usually it's like 80–200 bytes |
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[07:35:44] | markk_: | iamlindoro: sorry – been out and about enjoying some tropical downpours. give me another ping when it's a good time. |
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[08:03:15] | Diverdude: | Does anybody know if this guy: http://www.cetoncorp.com/products.php May be used in a linux machine somehow? |
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[08:14:44] | kenni: | Diverdude: try #mythtv-users |
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[09:01:43] | jya: | Has something be changed recently with AFD? http://mythtv.pastebin.com/Xzwesd19 |
[09:02:02] | jya: | there's a few file that I can't open anymore, but plays okay with my local 0.24-fixes build |
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[12:30:48] | simonckenyon: | i can not see the timeline in trac. is this a known problem? |
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[12:34:13] | stuartm: | working here |
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[12:49:49] | simonckenyon: | my bad – there was rubbish (my name) in the "done by" field for some reason – sorry for the noise |
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[17:19:19] | gigem: | is anyone else having problems with svn+ssh. cvs.mythtv.org. is closing the connection on me about 80% of the time. |
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[17:26:33] | jams: | probably related to the ssh worm attack against osuosl network. |
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[17:31:55] | gigem: | jams: i hadn't heard about that. that would explain it. tnaks. |
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[20:10:22] | stuartm: | jya: I'm seeing quite a bit "AO, ERROR: Error occurred while resampling audio: Input and output data arrays overlap." with 27365 playing mp3s in mythmusic – stereo analogue output |
[20:11:32] | stuartm: | it's resampling from 44.1 to 48kHz, medium quality |
[20:12:29] | stuartm: | not forcing resampling, must be determining that 48kHz is required for that device |
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[21:49:22] | jya: | stuartm: is this something you were seeing before? |
[21:50:16] | stuartm: | no, brand new |
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[22:16:53] | poiuytrewq: | quick question – does anyone know the answer? I'm building a plugin and I'd like to change the text of an element in the xml theme, but it's nested within another element. How do I access the 'second level' down? |
[22:19:05] | poiuytrewq: | hello, anyone here? |
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[22:20:23] | iamlindoro: | It would help to have the question in context, as the question doesn't make much... and he's gone |
[22:23:10] | kenni: | it sounded like he was using some GUI XML-editor, which didn't behave as he wanted it to |
[22:34:46] | jya: | stuartm: ok, will look into it.. can't see how it's happening but ... i've seen weirder thing |
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[23:00:57] | stuartm: | the AC3 volume levels with ffmpeg have been a long standing problem, people have been complaining about it for years and since I've been receiving BBC HD I've been affected, there is a significant difference between the SD (mpeg2) and HD (ac3) channels which should be normalised around the same point |
[23:02:12] | jya: | stuartm: are you using stereo setup or 5.1 ? |
[23:02:21] | stuartm: | stereo |
[23:02:29] | jya: | wondering if the issue is only to do with downmixing, or all setup |
[23:02:40] | jya: | ok.. that makes sense. |
[23:02:42] | stuartm: | jya: I'm refering to myth/ffmpeg downmixing thread |
[23:02:50] | jya: | yeah.. |
[23:03:23] | jya: | is there a way to detect at run time if the machine has a floatting point co-processor ? |
[23:03:33] | stuartm: | of course there's an even bigger difference when switching between recordings/video and mp3s because most music these days is recorded at insane volume and the only way to deal with that is to allow a configurable offset for the music volume |
[23:04:53] | jya: | there is a ticket to support replaygain |
[23:04:58] | jya: | this would solve the problem |
[23:05:19] | jya: | but until it's implemented everywhere, I didn't see the need to bother with having the framework doing so |
[23:05:37] | jya: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4804 |
[23:06:22] | jya: | because it's up to the playback application to handle it properly; |
[23:07:10] | jya: | now that we have a floating point engine, implementing replaygain is going to be much easier than what's done in this patch |
[23:07:34] | stuartm: | yeah, I'm not a big fan of software _amplification_, it's usually pretty nasty |
[23:07:37] | jya: | janneg: how could I test if the current CPU has hardware FPU ? |
[23:08:08] | jya: | if done well, I don't see how different it would be that what most pre-amp would do these days |
[23:08:09] | high-rez: | Lookin /proc/cpuinfo ? :) |
[23:08:23] | jya: | high-rez, that's linux only |
[23:08:38] | jya: | we do have mac, windows, bsd to cater for |
[23:08:51] | high-rez: | Oh, sorry, forgot people use lesser^H^H^H^H^H^Hother OS's :D |
[23:08:55] | stuartm: | considering the volume on my speakers (amp) never goes above 50% I've never seen the need for software amplification, reduction to handle variations in input sure |
[23:09:17] | jya: | replaingain, is mostly about reduction.. more so than amplification |
[23:09:33] | jya: | you could always align on the least loud |
[23:09:35] | sphery: | jya: Maybe even compile-time decision based on hardware/arch? Or would that be too broad a scope? |
[23:09:39] | jya: | rather than the loudest |
[23:10:04] | stuartm: | jya: pretty much any linux app I've tried the software amp results in pretty bad distortion at nowhere near the highest levels |
[23:10:07] | jya: | sphery: well, with package like ubuntu, it's for all architecture |
[23:10:44] | jya: | stuartm: i can steal some great algorithm from work like I did for the vuvuzela :) |
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[23:11:14] | jya: | you should see the latest audio filter we have for call center.. amazing what it can do |
[23:11:35] | jya: | the caller could be next to a chainsaw, and you would hear him clearly |
[23:12:48] | jya: | sphery: what about I check for SSE only, that would cover 90% of the people... and if SSE3 is available, the float conversion is extremely fast |
[23:13:06] | stuartm: | and as I say, I've yet to see hardware which is incapable of significant volume, even with unpowered speakers my laptops/PCs can be pretty loud, I never need the master mixer/PCM volumes at 100% etc |
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[23:13:38] | stuartm: | jya: not saying that some people won't benefit from software amplification, just that I personally don't have any affection for it :) |
[23:13:53] | jya: | stuartm: i usually have the master at 100%, and I setup each applications instead |
[23:14:47] | jya: | stuartm: the issue here isn't so much about having software amplification, more so to level the audio to be at similar volume everywhere... |
[23:15:03] | jya: | damn annoying what they do with the ads and sound compression these days |
[23:15:12] | jya: | you have to rush to the volume button all the time |
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[23:15:38] | stuartm: | jya: hence why I'm in favour of a reduction solution |
[23:15:57] | jya: | so am I, but software amplification is required to do it... |
[23:17:32] | stuartm: | jya: the algo might be the same, the implementation just doesn't have to allow increasing the volume above the input level is all that I'm saying :) At least that's what I'd prefer to see, I'm not trying to enforce that atm |
[23:17:59] | jya: | ok... |
[23:18:16] | jya: | don't worry, I'll add 5 "advanced audio settings" to do just what you want :) |
[23:18:34] | stuartm: | just expressing opinion, not policy :) |
[23:20:58] | stuartm: | sometimes IRC can be a hinderance to communication ;) |
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[23:25:51] | jya: | don't worry, audio quality is paramount to me.. i have similar opinion to yours on the matter |
[23:26:14] | jya: | maybe we could have audio profiles like we do with video playback |
[23:26:50] | jya: | select "audiophile" profile, then no or very little processing is done, anything affecting audio quality is banned |
[23:27:33] | jya: | convenience profile: more for day to day use like watching TV and live content , level the audio |
[23:28:18] | jya: | "i'm too cheap/stubborn to upgrade" profile .. for people with low-end processing capabilities |
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[23:43:34] | jya: | stuartm: could you post that MP3 somewhere? |
[23:43:44] | jya: | I have a machine here that only support 48kHz too |
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[23:56:25] | Beirdo: | don't forget the "persistant tinnitis" setting |
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