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Friday, November 12th, 2010, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:02] iamlindoro: HA
[00:01:20] iamlindoro: I just managed to make the FBI warning play back at the top of a Blu-ray
[00:01:39] iamlindoro: not particularly exciting, but the first birth screams of menu navigation mode
[00:02:10] Beirdo: hehehe
[00:02:33] Beirdo: some users might consider that to be a regression
[00:03:04] iamlindoro: They'll live if it means also getting menus
[00:03:11] Beirdo: oh, no doubt :)
[00:03:16] Beirdo: keep up the great work
[00:03:59] abqjp: iamlindoro  :)
[00:05:20] iamlindoro: of course, it immediately crashed on the title switch after that... but at least the crash was in avformatdecoder ;)
[00:06:03] Beirdo: heh
[00:06:19] Beirdo: one step forward... one step into gdb
[00:11:02] ** iamlindoro still has to find a good way to get the current video PTS from the player.... hmm :( **
[00:13:54] ** iamlindoro wonders if markk is awake **
[00:19:22] Beirdo: that might be a fine addition :)
[00:19:35] Beirdo: elmojo may be able to help there too
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[00:25:45] markk: iamlindoro: just going to driving my wife to work – back in 5
[00:25:50] iamlindoro: no rush
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[07:20:31] xris: ok, @mythtv.org email addresses are ready and available for all devs
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[07:22:44] wagnerrp: forwarded to the emails we gave you?
[07:23:07] ** wagnerrp tests **
[07:23:42] xris: wagnerrp: more details on the dev list
[07:24:05] xris: figured it'd be easiest just to autoassign IDs based on real names.. people can use them or not.
[07:24:09] wagnerrp: yeah, i see the mail.. thanks
[07:24:13] xris: but git will reflect that info
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[07:46:34] Beirdo: which means that any of you with github accounts, you likely want to add that account in your github config
[07:46:44] Beirdo: so it will automatch for ya
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[08:51:25] stuartm: xris: stuart@tase.co.uk
[08:53:25] xris: done
[08:53:33] xris: good thing I'm still awake
[09:05:14] stuartm: markk: we discussed moving everything in the UI to QRectF for precision reasons, it might go some way to fixing some of the more serious pixel rounding issues
[09:05:20] stuartm: xris: thanks
[09:08:05] Beirdo: OK
[09:08:21] Beirdo: I see why we use SO many stinking connections
[09:08:48] Beirdo: we honor "Connection: Keep-Alive
[09:20:39] xris: what's wrong with that?
[09:20:46] xris: except... we shouldn't do that on the trac server
[09:21:22] Beirdo: no, I mean in the internal web server, and so far I'm not convinced that we are timing some of them out correctly
[09:21:57] xris: ick
[09:22:00] Beirdo: yeah
[09:22:02] Beirdo: :)
[09:22:08] Beirdo: I'll try to track it down
[09:32:30] Beirdo: meanwhile, I've found something interesting with MPEG2 seektables
[09:32:51] Beirdo: the recorded one and the rebuilt are nearly identical but:
[09:33:40] Beirdo: take the frame number of the recorded one and subtract 15... (and start at frame 15)
[09:33:43] Beirdo: for me
[09:34:25] Beirdo: then the offsets are nearly identical, but you need to add 188 bytes to the offset of the recorded seektable to match the rebuilt one
[09:34:52] Beirdo: so far this is one sample recording... from OTA
[09:35:20] Beirdo: so it leads me to believe that I need to go look through the during-recording seektable... again
[09:36:35] Beirdo: sorry... subtract 188 bytes
[09:36:42] Beirdo: must be getting tired
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[10:36:20] markk: stuartm: I half remembered some discussion around QRectF
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[10:45:28] Beirdo: OK. This is working, but I need to figure out why
[10:45:30] Beirdo: heh
[10:45:34] Beirdo: so I'll commit later
[10:45:51] Beirdo: but now, I shouldn't see black previews for my OTA stuff anymore
[10:46:46] Beirdo: off by exactly 1 TSPacket::SIZE
[10:47:14] Beirdo: and 15 frames in the frame column, haven't fixed that yet
[10:49:04] Beirdo: now bed
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[12:01:14] zamba: i'm looking for a piece of software that will let me extract arbitrary pieces of video from a potentially infinite video stream, through the use of timeshifting.. is mythtv able to do this?
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[12:46:59] Captain_Murdoch: markk, stuartm, yeah, I have a huge stale patch to convert quite a bit to QRectF. it helped with buttonlist scaling as far as positioning static elements exactly beside buttons, but had other issus I never worked around at the time. can't recall at this time of the morning what they all were, but one was button sizing/spacing, buttons needed to be dynamically sized to keep things aligned. for themes like arclight with little spa
[12:46:59] Captain_Murdoch: cing between buttons, they look terrible unless you also keep the button spacing consistent, so there are compromised there. if the themer wants 1 pixel between buttons, you can honor that at most resolutions, but if you drop the resolution by half, you have to either drop the pixel or keep it, but either way the theme starts looking different than at full resolution because the spacing isn't scaling along with the sizing. anywa
[12:46:59] Captain_Murdoch: y, here's a link to a page I did which shows how using QRectF, QPointF, and QSizeF allowed me to line up static elements with buttons in a buttonlist at various resolutions. With the current integer code, they shift all over the place and are only ever really correct at one resolution. http://www.bc2va.org/chris/tmp/bl.html
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[12:47:08] Captain_Murdoch: sorry about that, didn't realize that was soooooo long.
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[16:32:26] toxic: hello guys, I'm using the latest mythbuntu and I'm wonderiung if mythtv is able to present my videos based on the metadata and not the actual directory structure...
[16:32:54] iamlindoro: wrong channel, see topic
[16:33:04] toxic: sorry
[17:03:10] cdev: Beirdo: Regarding the internal http server threading issue... I'm currently working on a patch that changes the threads to be used for processing requests only and not tied to a specific connection (like it is now).
[17:03:34] Beirdo: cool
[17:04:01] Beirdo: I won't spend too much time trying to decipher its issues if it's being rewritten anyways
[17:04:03] cdev: Beirdo: I'm hoping to have it ready to commit in a day or two. Just didn't want you waisting your time
[17:04:12] Beirdo: cool, thanks :)
[17:04:37] Beirdo: I'm trying to get our seektables behaving at recording time. Tis fun
[17:05:09] Beirdo: I'm pretty sure I got MPEG2-TS last night, MPEG2-PS is being a bit of a pain
[17:06:09] cdev: Good luck, last time I looked at that code I left with a headache. :(
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[17:06:25] Beirdo: hehe
[17:06:39] Beirdo: well, yeah, it's headache-causing for sure
[17:07:02] Beirdo: the result is that I had a bunch of previews that looked like B frames
[17:07:09] Beirdo: as they WERE B frames
[17:07:35] Beirdo: at least with TS, we were saving the offset at the end of the packet, not the beginning
[17:07:38] Beirdo: oops
[17:08:31] Beirdo: in PS, it's even more funky to try to pinpoint the beginning of the frame, it seems, so I will just have to come back to it this evening
[17:09:21] Beirdo: I have it at least storing an offset that's before the keyframes now for PS, so those seem to be working too, but ideally it should match the rebuild
[17:09:30] Beirdo: and it doesn't. TS does now
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[17:09:53] Beirdo: anywho :) time to head to work
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[21:01:23] Beirdo: argh
[21:01:50] Beirdo: much of the myth_system changes in [27205] will be reverted/redone shortly
[21:02:45] Beirdo: in particular, the reaper *should* be reaping all children. QProcess/popen/system shouldn't be in use in our app
[21:05:45] Beirdo: QProcess, in particular, is known to be buggy, and these bugs will haunt us forever if we continue to use it.
[21:09:23] wagnerrp: going to start into that this weekend?
[21:09:49] Beirdo: well, now that danielk went and made a mess of it in his branch... I dunno
[21:10:02] Beirdo: I was hoping to look over what you had so far, yes.
[21:23:11] stuartm: xris: when we get the new server up can we sort out a registration/login plugin for trac? I'm tired of people making flippant, sarcastic or rude comments whilst hiding behind 'anonymous'
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[21:24:38] xris: yeah. talk to Beirdo about it.
[21:24:43] xris: he's managing that setup
[21:24:55] xris: although I blew away the db last night.... so it doesn't quite work righ at the moment
[21:25:11] xris: or just use jira. ;)
[21:26:57] wagnerrp: or even if there is no registration, some basic regular expression check on the email address
[21:27:09] wagnerrp: so anonymous cant post
[21:27:16] stuartm: well eventually maybe ;) As Captain_Murdoch and I agreed last night, it's probably best not to change everything at once, learning git is enough for this month :p
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[21:34:49] Beirdo: heh
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[21:35:16] Beirdo: we can bring up jira, use it for the other queue (feature request stuff), then ease into it over time/whatever
[21:35:39] Beirdo: but one hurdle at a time for the normal flow :)
[21:36:07] Beirdo: stuartm: did you have a list of plugins we'd need?
[21:36:51] Beirdo: just don't wanna miss any :)
[21:38:44] stuartm: Beirdo: not a current list, last looked into it 2–3 years ago, at the time I hacked together two different plugins along with some additional functionality for user management, I assume that something better is available by now
[21:40:20] stuartm: looks like the ACM plugin now has an email verification module – http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin
[21:40:22] Beirdo: OK
[21:40:24] stuartm: it didn't before
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[21:43:02] stuartm: I'm not sure if that's the best plugin, there are rather a lot of plugins now available for trac :/ http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TitleIndex
[21:44:58] stuartm: not sure if ACM adds what my plugin did which was to put the user details into the database and not an .htaccess file
[21:45:43] kormoc: we could just tell trac to auth via pam
[21:45:56] kormoc: if you have a system account, you have a trac login
[21:45:57] stuartm: kormoc: not for ordinary users
[21:46:17] stuartm: we're talking about requiring users to register before they can open tickets or comment
[21:46:25] kormoc: ooh, missed that, sorry
[21:46:44] stuartm: wow, ok, seems my plugin was last worked on back in 2006
[21:47:51] stuartm: Beirdo: for reference – http://www.miffteevee.co.uk/filebin/acmhack-0.4.tar.gz
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[21:48:08] Beirdo: cool.
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[21:49:56] stuartm: the README details the functionality but sadly not which plugins I combined, that was a major oversight ... whoops
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