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anykey_, brfransen, Captain_Murdoch, iamlindoro, jpabq, jpabq-, justinh, k-man, knightr, mag0o, mrand, MythLogBot, simonckenyon|2, skd5aner, sphery, stuartm, wagnerrp
Thursday, September 29th, 2011, 04:35 UTC
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[06:26:07] justinh: stuartm: neat idea :-)
[06:26:49] justinh: the only problem is actually doing the animated parts. I need to redraw my animated progress bar
[06:56:23] k-man: justinh, show us a screenshot of it
[07:01:16] justinh: I might be able to do better than that
[07:02:51] justinh: WTF? why does Istanbul depend on cvs?
[07:03:01] k-man: istanbul?
[07:03:14] k-man: not Constantinople?
[07:04:54] justinh: haha not a good start. Istanbul won't start. stupid piece of crap
[07:05:13] justinh: some guy demoed Istanbul before mythtv at lugradiolive a few years back
[07:05:17] justinh: it was crashy as f***
[07:05:36] justinh: as was the program he was trying to capture with it. Elisa
[07:05:37] k-man: what is it?
[07:05:47] justinh: it's a screencasting program
[07:07:19] justinh: god, that just brought back memories of punchable people baying "get a laptop" as I left the venue to pack my stuff into my car
[07:07:52] k-man: who did that? bastards
[07:09:07] justinh: oh just some c***
[07:09:36] justinh: they were right in a way though. a laptop would've made life much easier
[07:09:51] justinh: the stuff we rolled up to expos with to demo mythtv. lol
[07:10:21] justinh: right. encoding the video. I won't be surprised if it looks like ass
[07:10:53] justinh: and bear in mind that this is just a test – it's not going to be where the final animated progressbar appears
[07:11:09] justinh: it's just easier to slap it into the PBB to see what it's going to be like
[07:13:46] justinh: oh wow. that actually worked!
[07:15:07] justinh: gah. stupid FTP locking
[07:16:55] k-man: I have to get back to my theme – I got side tracked by trying to compile mythtv on osx, and a few things in real life that got in the way
[07:17:14] justinh: yeah so did I. couldn't remember where I'd got up to
[07:17:41] justinh: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/stuff.out.ogv
[07:17:48] justinh: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/stuff/out.ogv&nb sp;– oops
[07:18:33] justinh: I'm amazed it managed to capture that, hardly missing any frames on this puny system
[07:18:36] k-man: i've been thinking to start my theme from scratch
[07:18:47] justinh: hahaha. we've all been there
[07:19:08] justinh: as for mine.. I dunno if I've ever liked a theme of my own as much as this one
[07:19:16] k-man: there is so much cruft in MythCenter, and also, the license is not gpl, and I'd rather it was gpl
[07:19:18] justinh: it's just so... *functional*
[07:19:31] justinh: how come it's not GPL?
[07:19:42] justinh: I thought everything bundled in mythtv was GPL
[07:19:43] k-man: the original author did not GPL it
[07:19:49] justinh: heh
[07:20:11] justinh: well, I always thought the original premise of it was off-kilter anyway
[07:20:23] justinh: a mythtv theme inspired by MCE.. I mean.. PFFT
[07:20:24] k-man: he gave me his blessing to put it under GPL via an email, but I think there will have been too many contributions from other authors to do that
[07:20:47] justinh: who did it originally btw?
[07:20:48] k-man: you saw my screenshots right?
[07:20:55] k-man: err...
[07:20:59] justinh: saw a number of them
[07:21:20] k-man: so whatever my theme turns out to be, it won't look like MythCenter
[07:21:38] justinh: I think they were sufficiently better than mythcenter to warrant not calling it anything like MythCenter ;-)
[07:22:19] justinh: e.g. NotMythCenterButSignificantlyBettererThanAnyOldShitty4x4ThemeThereHasEverBeen-1. 0
[07:22:29] justinh: er.. 4x3. lol
[07:22:29] k-man: Jeroen Brosens was the original author according to the Readme
[07:22:45] k-man: hehe
[07:23:50] k-man: anyway, my wife is away and I was all set for some long nights of hacking but I had some major harware failures at work to deal with
[07:23:59] justinh: anyway I've got my basic svg I can work from now & inkscape has the filenames of the frames embedded now, so that should make future changes easier
[07:24:03] k-man: so ive been working into the night for the past few nights trying to get that all sorted
[07:24:34] justinh: I used to work long into the night doing my etchins... I mean themes
[07:24:59] justinh: these days I can't get past 12am without my eyelids getting too heavy
[07:26:00] justinh: oh, and the good thing about this progress bar is that it can really be any width :-)
[07:26:00] k-man: kids will do that
[07:26:19] k-man: oh, nice animation btw
[07:26:39] k-man: oh, you watch wilfred? that's an Aussie show
[07:26:40] justinh: Thomas has been blowing my mind lately.. his comprehension skills are amazing me. "Shut the door please Thomas"... so off he goes to shut the door. He's only 13 months old damnit
[07:26:40] k-man: ?
[07:26:45] k-man: isn't it?
[07:26:54] k-man: wow
[07:27:07] k-man: it really is amazing
[07:27:10] justinh: it was, apparently. we get the US version with whatshisface out of some big name film or other
[07:27:15] k-man: mine is 2.75 now
[07:27:27] k-man: oh thats a shame
[07:27:43] justinh: the guy playing wilfred is an aussie though
[07:28:03] justinh: he reminds me of the bloke who used to play Joe Mangel in Neighbours LOL
[07:28:47] justinh: we've not been watching Wilf much lately. I think it goes too far sometimes
[07:29:13] justinh: oh yeah Elijah Wood... see I said he was out of some big films or other
[07:29:43] justinh: TBH I'm amazed it even got made in america, the subject matter covered.. and there's a lot of bong use
[07:30:29] justinh: sheesh.. it's a FOX effort? :-O
[07:31:21] justinh: ah the bloke playing Wilfred is the same as in the Aus version
[07:40:33] k-man: oh right
[07:41:00] justinh: time to tackle some more icons :)
[07:41:06] k-man: it is a but underground here  – not sure many people actually saw it and in fact, I only discovered it right at the end of the season. I think I only saw 2 episodes or something
[07:42:18] justinh: in the US version, the asshole neighbour is played by the guy who used to be Randy in My Name Is Earl
[07:42:32] justinh: it has its moments
[07:42:48] justinh: it's better than a lot of stuff on telly right now – including Dr Who
[07:47:06] justinh: then again, what isn't better than Dr Who these days
[07:48:52] justinh: hmmm. wouldn't it also be useful to be able to see conflicts in the guidegrid?
[07:49:15] justinh: I hadn't realised this before, but all the guidegrid icons only represent different recording states
[07:49:26] justinh: but 'won't record' isn't one of those states
[07:49:53] justinh: oh wait.. conflicts are shown by a colour. harumpg
[07:51:22] justinh: I'd much rather be able to represent everything with icons.. or colours.. but leave the choice up to me
[07:52:56] k-man: sounds like you need to raise a ticket ;
[07:52:57] k-man: )
[07:53:19] k-man: that was a smiley broken by an inapproprately placed CR
[07:54:07] k-man: I think we should have a Mythtv-OSX channel
[07:56:44] justinh: I know there are changes planned to the guidegrid, so I'll hang on
[07:57:19] justinh: I have no problem going in & doing stuff myself & submitting patches but I may aswell wait a while
[07:58:12] k-man: incidentaly, how do the devs decide when its time to drop a release?
[07:58:30] justinh: when they've had enough of users whining? ;-)
[08:00:21] k-man: anyway, I
[08:00:42] k-man: stupid enter key – who put it right next to the apostrophe? anyway I'm off
[08:00:45] k-man: bye
[08:01:43] justinh: ttfn
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[13:00:46] justinh: hnng. problems with my animated progressbar
[13:01:01] justinh: animation isn't working in the popups
[13:09:05] justinh: or maybe it is
[13:09:08] justinh: hmmpf.
[13:10:07] justinh: a 0% bar is shown for ages. is that really much use?
[13:10:50] justinh: need a surefire way to get a progressbar up onscreen, and progressing
[13:15:52] justinh: aha!
[13:45:45] k-man: justinh, it would be kind of good if there was a test jig for theming
[13:46:01] k-man: so you didn't have to go trapsing around to test stuff
[13:51:59] justinh: aye
[13:52:26] justinh: oh it's easy to test animations – just slap the imagetype down in some space
[13:52:35] justinh: but popups & stuff.. oy
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