| Friday, January 28th, 2011, 06:02 UTC | ||
| [06:02:51] | iamlindoro: | Anyone else feel like we can completely eliminate the step between Utilities/Setup and Setup? |
| [06:03:18] | iamlindoro: | Move Edit Keys under Setup, remove music tools entirely since it exists elsewhere, done |
| [06:05:27] | sphery: | I love the idea |
| [06:05:41] | sphery: | make Utilities/Setup into just plain Setup |
| [06:05:46] | iamlindoro: | Yes |
| [06:06:02] | iamlindoro: | I'm liable to just do it and beg forgiveness later |
| [06:06:11] | sphery: | heh, works for me |
| [06:11:00] | iamlindoro: | done |
| [06:13:24] | iamlindoro: | Let them come for me! |
| [06:13:36] | iamlindoro: | And I'm going to do another thing to throw off people's memory, too ;) |
| [06:17:09] | iamlindoro: | Heh, this one ought to get me in some trouble ;) |
| [06:20:20] | iamlindoro: | There |
| [06:20:32] | iamlindoro: | Now the Setup menu sorta kinda makes a little more sense |
| [06:20:53] | iamlindoro: | at least we dont' have to say that "TV Settings applies to MythVideo and DVD and Blu-ray playback" |
| [06:21:05] | iamlindoro: | Now it's just Setup->Video->Playback Settings |
| [06:34:39] | iamlindoro: | stuartm, Everything in http://bit.ly/hEIdaj is accessible from MythMusic itself, and it only adds confusion to the menu-- can we remove it? |
| [06:35:00] | iamlindoro: | ie, you can do Setup->Media Settings->Music Tools->Music Settings |
| [06:35:01] | iamlindoro: | and |
| [06:35:08] | iamlindoro: | Setup->Media Settings->Music Settings |
| [06:35:45] | iamlindoro: | and that's not even addressing that Setup->Media Settings->Music Tools contains a bunch of the same functionalities as just going to MythMusic |
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| [09:45:26] | stuartm: | erm, I'd run it past Paul |
| [09:47:19] | stuartm: | I can't say I'm entirely convinced that moving everything under Music Tools deeper into the menu structure is a good idea, I use the import/ripping functionality on weekly basis |
| [09:48:37] | stuartm: | hopefully we can make it accessible directly through mythmusic after the mythui port is complete, but for now burying it seems like the opposite of what we want to do |
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| [14:08:53] | iamlindoro: | Didn't realize those parts were only accessible there-- well, we can pull it back up in the hierarchy but I'd really rather not give up the flattening of the structure-- can you think of another place to put it that might be more sensible? |
| [14:25:10] | stuartm: | there is no good place for it, but hopefully it should only be temporary, I'd want those screens/features accessible through the primary mythmusic UI once it's been ported |
| [15:38:12] | iamlindoro: | This ffmpeg thing is getting truly nasty |
| [15:39:00] | iamlindoro: | Now they're just telling each other to fuck off, in those exact words, in public, with no mask of reasonability |
| [16:22:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | now we'll have users asking if they can use 'the other' ffmpeg instead of the one whos source we semi-mirror. :| |
| [16:24:10] | stuartm: | gotta love politics and egos in open source |
| [16:24:45] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: stuartm, since you're both looking-ish, do the changes to the default menu structure make sense/look good to you guys? ie TV Settings becomes "Video" to match the existing "audio," and the reordering into logical groupings? |
| [16:25:12] | iamlindoro: | I played with it for a while last night and was much happier with the logical flow, even if it's just some tiny rewording/flattening/reordering |
| [16:25:36] | stuartm: | I haven't looked that closely, but it sounds fine, certainly it's difficult not to improve the menu structure |
| [16:26:45] | iamlindoro: | I'm sure someone will bitch because it breaks their muscle memory, but I think the new user will have a much easier time fathoming that playback settings are in Setup->Video->Playback instead of Utilities/Setup->Setup->TV Settings->Playback |
| [16:28:55] | Captain_Murdoch: | I noticed it was getting long in some areas when I went to test the video sample download, so I'm all for improvement. TV -> Video makes sense to me since most of those are for Video Playback which includes more than TV. |
| [16:30:55] | Captain_Murdoch: | I need to look it over again, but can't right now. |
| [16:33:16] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: simplification etc is good and it's worth forcing users to re-learn how to do things in order to achieve |
| [16:33:41] | stuartm: | I'm like a broken record on this subject, so by now everyone must know my opinion on this stuff |
| [16:35:56] | iamlindoro: | particularly those of us who share it ;) |
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