| Tuesday, January 25th, 2011, 00:20 UTC | ||
| [00:20:09] | sphery: | Does it bother anyone else that we have a settings widget for "Use arrow key accelerators" (UseArrowAccels), still, and that it's still respected in libs/libmyth/mythdialogs.cpp ? Anyone think I could get away with removing the setting and making mythdialogs no longer use it (like the mythui part of MythTV)? |
| [00:21:02] | sphery: | consistency with mythui + danielk's suggested approach at http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8513#comment:2 would seem to be a good "until it's done properly" reason for removing it |
| [00:26:42] | iamlindoro: | Works for me |
| [00:29:46] | sphery: | I'm just afraid it might restart the "we must put the setting back" demands |
| [00:29:57] | iamlindoro: | Or finally put them to bed |
| [00:30:05] | iamlindoro: | It can't be any worse than it's already been |
| [00:30:51] | sphery: | it sounds like danielk was recommending that a theme be allowed to specify accelerators on a per-window basis or something... like <accel-cancel>LEFT</accel-cancel><accel-select>RIGHT</accel -select> , right? |
| [00:32:04] | iamlindoro: | I am not sure of daniels intentions, though I don't think I like the sound of that |
| [00:35:51] | iamlindoro: | if we want the theme to be able to control behavior, then it shouldn't be a half measure |
| [00:36:07] | iamlindoro: | it should all be an actual scripted language a la Qtscript |
| [00:36:30] | sphery: | ah, yeah, that would be the right way |
| [00:36:44] | iamlindoro: | As we likely need to incorporate some level of scripting for complex animations, it makes sense to set out with all that kind of flexibility in mind |
| [00:37:27] | iamlindoro: | without which you can never really do a "total conversion" of a Myth UI |
| [00:37:37] | sphery: | and really accels have to be smarter than just mapping cancel/select to an action--since it's usually "if you're here and you get the action, then cancel" |
| [00:37:48] | sphery: | so, yeah, I think it would require real scripting |
| [00:38:27] | iamlindoro: | I think that QtScript is actionscript based too, so it might not necessarily require reinventing the wheel, just a solid idea of what we're setting out to do |
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| [10:25:19] | stuartm: | it keeps coming back to scripting, but although it seems inevitable I'm not entirely happy to have animation etc dependant on scripting – at least not basic effects |
| [10:26:54] | stuartm: | reason being is that many current and prospective themers are not going to be comfortable with scripting |
| [10:28:48] | stuartm: | I do already have an idea for simple sequence based animation done entirely in markup, it has the potential to satisfy most themers and still remain foolproof |
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| [18:18:59] | stuartm: | ugh, I hate the mythvideo code |
| [18:20:49] | iamlindoro: | Losing the delaydeathpointer would not break my heart |
| [18:21:01] | iamlindoro: | it's a trivial gain for a lot work heartache |
| [18:21:09] | iamlindoro: | and only serves to confuse people in the end anyway |
| [18:22:11] | stuartm: | the code is wilfully obscured :( |
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| [21:38:26] | iamlindoro: | stuartm: Have you had any conversations with Mark about his plans for the theming syntax w/ GLSL shaders? I spoke to him, and this was months ago now, and he said that adding effects was as simple as dropping in new fragments now-- but what remained was to figure out the theming portion of it. I wonder whether it would spur development in that direction if you guys had a conversation |
| [21:39:42] | stuartm: | Mark and I talked about making some changes which would help with accelerating image rendering/scaling, but that's all so far and I've yet to do what I promised him |
| [21:40:30] | iamlindoro: | I have the occasional itch to work on something new, but I'm resolved not to do so until at least some of the promise of those effects/etc. is available, as I feel like another whole theme right now would be a wasted effort |
| [21:40:49] | iamlindoro: | knowing my luck the effects stuff would turn up a week before I released it, I'd try to bolt it on, and it would turn to shit |
| [21:41:23] | stuartm: | I think we'll both talk about it when we feel we have the time, I don't want to say that it's not a priority but I'm looking at a list of long list of jobs that I want to finish sometime in the next 6 months and the effects stuff isn't yet on there |
| [21:41:59] | iamlindoro: | I'm not sure he wouldn't be happy to do it himself, just wondering if he needs a little guidance about how you want it done |
| [21:42:27] | stuartm: | he's not been shy about asking my advice before now |
| [21:42:31] | iamlindoro: | ok |
| [21:42:52] | iamlindoro: | well, however you think it's best, I know you're both busy with many divergent tasks-- it might just be that he hadn't circled back around to it yet |
| [21:43:13] | stuartm: | iamlindoro: we'll talk, I'm just saying that it probably won't be this week ;) |
| [21:43:18] | iamlindoro: | no worries |
| [21:46:29] | stuartm: | there's a heap of usability stuff I want to focus on, stuff that will make a real improvement to the end-user experience and which won't get done otherwise |
| [21:47:37] | stuartm: | I'd love to get back to doing the fun stuff like UI effects/animation, but it's going to be more satisfying if there are still users around to see it ;) |
| [21:47:53] | stuartm: | which is where this other stuff becomes important |
| [21:53:06] | iamlindoro: | Hard to argue with those priorities |
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