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| [16:58:52] | iamlindoro: | stuartm: Some random brainstorming. Thoughts or additions? http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/2031558 |
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| [19:27:50] | stuartm: | dropping the plot popup entirely seems a bit harsh, but maybe the plot/cast info should be combined to align with what we have in 'Watch Recordings' ... it could really use text scrolling ... |
| [19:28:22] | stuartm: | after all we need something bound to the 'info' key ;) |
| [19:28:37] | stuartm: | otherwise it's just radical enough to work |
| [19:29:43] | stuartm: | I'd be tempted to tackle something like that in parallel with the existing mythvideo, mythvideo mk2, only intended to be integrated into the frontend from the start |
| [19:33:03] | iamlindoro: | That's the aim |
| [19:33:09] | iamlindoro: | (I started working on it) |
| [19:33:22] | iamlindoro: | it's just in parallel-- in the mythvideo source tree but basically just a new, parallel UI |
| [19:34:10] | iamlindoro: | I was actually thinking that the INFO key would bind a more featureful item detail popup |
| [19:34:44] | iamlindoro: | right now it's just play and cancel with the same info you can put anywhere else-- I was thinking to allow watching the trailer, spawning the item's homepage at the metadata source, etc. |
| [19:39:15] | iamlindoro: | And if it has all of those features/themability, then it sort of renders the plot popup useless/silly |
| [19:53:48] | stuartm: | that's reminded me, at least in Terra, the way I've themed the gallery pre-play popup it's more or less what I'd expect from the info popup, it lists director, cast, plot, year and runtime etc It's almost a shame that the dialog is inaccessible from other views |
| [19:55:27] | stuartm: | of course it's also partially redundant since some of that same info is on display in the gallery view already, which is one reason I didn't like that additional dialog being re-added but it's perfect for an INFO dialog |
| [21:01:32] | iamlindoro: | It's not inaccessible (it can always be called up from the menu) but I think binding it from INFO makes more sense |
| [21:33:42] | iamlindoro: | stuartm: Out of complete curiosity, what are the odds that you've taken a shot at any of the multiuser stuff? It'd be neat to build that in to this work from the start rather than having to retrofit it |
| [21:36:53] | stuartm: | I've not touched it yet, sorry |
| [21:37:13] | stuartm: | I haven't really done anything in this past month |
| [21:37:17] | iamlindoro: | no worries |
| [21:37:20] | iamlindoro: | just curious |
| [21:44:44] | iamlindoro: | I'd also like to see if I can build screenshot generation into this from scratch... or at least before I share it with anyone |
| [22:09:27] | stuartm: | I can help with that, it shouldn't be difficult, create an instance of PreviewGen, point it at the file, voila |
| [22:11:20] | iamlindoro: | Yeah... is it all threaded/non-blocking by default? that is to say, is PreviewGen a thread that I create and pump files into, or do I have to do queue management, etc. myself |
| [22:17:47] | stuartm: | it's fully threaded, but rate management will probably need to be done on your side, at least that was the case until recently, Daniel might have done some work in that area |
| [22:19:28] | iamlindoro: | OK. I'll look at it again-- it's changed a lot since I first looked at trying but it was a maze of twisty passageways and I got very confused |
| [22:19:42] | stuartm: | PBB kept a queue and monitored the preview 'success' events so that a fixed number of events were running at a time, it was pretty simple stuff but Daniel was making improvements and he might have moved that into the generator itself |
| [22:21:03] | stuartm: | in theory the preview generator can rate manage itself by monitoring the inuseprograms table, so that may or may not be what Daniel did recently |
| [22:38:52] | iamlindoro: | I swear that some of the MythVideo internals are written this way to deter anyone touching it |
| [22:39:42] | iamlindoro: | stuartm: One thing I would dearly love still would be to change the formatting of text in a TextArea mid-stream. There are so many cool design approaches that one could use by changing font, weight, and color midstream |
| [22:40:54] | iamlindoro: | ie <template>^boldnormal^%TITLE%^normal^%SUBTITLE%</template> or whatever |
| [22:43:42] | stuartm: | yeah, I can see the benefits but I'm torn on it because there's no way I can see of doing it that is simple and tidy which are both virtues I'd like to think mythui adheres to |
| [22:45:24] | stuartm: | s/virtues/principals/ |
| [22:47:12] | iamlindoro: | I completely sympathize, guess I can live without it, I just keep trying to do things that I can't manage and I know that flexibility/limits-of-your-creativity is a mythUI virtue too |
| [22:48:13] | iamlindoro: | But I see where you're coming from |
| [22:56:15] | stuartm: | I'm not fundamentally opposed if I see the right idea, I just don't want mythui to become everything that we're trying to fix with the old UI and mythtv generally – too many ideas implemented, easy solutions chosen over themer-friendly ones etc |
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