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[12:11:40] toad_: My backend keeps hanging, with 1 thread using 100% CPU, and the frontend unable to connect for long periods ... I'm using self-built packages, so I guess I should rebuild it with debugging enabled? How do I do that with the packaging scripts?
[12:12:02] toad_: Also is it likely that 29 fixes this? This is a fairly recent 0.28 ...
[12:14:49] toad_: I was being cautious because I heard there were a few reports of 29 issues ... I guess I should upgrade in the first instance
[12:24:38] toad_: Hmmm... I have a problem with rescheduling taking ages. Could that be related? Does reschedule block all other access to mythtv? Surely not, I see lots of stuff in the logs where a schedule has been interrupted
[12:32:22] toad_: Hmmm... I think the timeouts may not be related to the high CPU usage at all ...
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[13:35:25] toad_: Looks a lot like this... but happening on debian? :( http://lists.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-user . . . /337999.html
[13:36:04] mengoshmink: just to throw into the mix, I am "still" having problems with my epg data
[13:37:48] toad_: EIT scans causing backend to hang? That's one theory
[13:38:04] toad_: I've seen in digging into this ... I'm not sure it matches my experience, and anyway I can't turn EIT off
[13:38:34] mengoshmink: Hi toad_, you talking about your problem or mine?
[13:39:10] toad_: There's lots of stuff about slave backends that doesn't apply ... and some odd stuff about database auth which doesn't seem very likely to produce _sporadic_ failures
[13:39:17] toad_: mengoshmink: what's your problem?
[13:39:43] mengoshmink: I don't receive any tv listings anymore
[13:39:48] toad_: :(
[13:40:21] mengoshmink: well, I can live without, I mostly serve videos rather than record
[13:40:30] mengoshmink: but I do like to record if I can
[13:40:40] toad_: Is version 29 more stable than 0.28 at this point?
[13:40:40] mengoshmink: but cant record if I don't know whats on
[13:41:12] ** mengoshmink shrugs, my BE is Centos so staying on 0.28 for now **
[13:41:28] toad_: You have it working *at all* on Centos?
[13:41:46] toad_: I've been reading the bugs, I thought that it was basically completely broken on centos?
[13:41:50] mengoshmink: 0.28?
[13:41:52] mengoshmink: sure
[13:41:56] mengoshmink: for ages
[13:42:00] mengoshmink: years
[13:42:06] toad_: Because of a bug that looks exactly the same as the one I'm now running into on debian 9 ...
[13:42:16] toad_: I.e. the backend frequently stops responding to network
[13:42:39] toad_: Did you have to mess about with downgrading dependencies?
[13:43:06] toad_: http://lists.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-user . . . /337999.html http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10188 http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10265
[13:43:21] mengoshmink: nope
[13:43:39] mengoshmink: I think I did on 0.22 or something but that was years ago
[13:44:48] toad_: Is the backend supposed to stop responding during the CPU-intensive phase of rescheduling? I can't quite narrow down exactly how to trigger the bug ... it *seems* to be related to rescheduling, maybe ...
[13:45:13] mengoshmink: what do you mean by rescheduling?
[13:45:18] toad_: It might be related to EIT – other people have reported similar bugs fixed by turning off EIT, but I think he had two tuners and they were conflicting ... I'm down to one tuner due to stability and signal issues ...
[13:46:15] toad_: It's very visible if you try to debug stuff from the logs ... every so often the master does a reschedule. Mine were taking _ages_, but that's fixable by various tweaks e.g. clean up mysql
[13:46:38] toad_: When you add a recording it has to do a reschedule, it won't show up on the schedule or start recording until the reschedule finishes
[13:47:06] toad_: There are two phases, one of which involves mysql using 100% CPU for ages, the second of which involves mythbackend (one thread) using 100% CPU for ages
[13:47:20] toad_: (Probably because I have fast storage)
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[13:53:18] toad_: Also, the latest round of backend hangs seem to have only really started after I upgraded the OS on the *front end* (IIRC I upgraded the frontend mythtv very slightly) ... :|
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[14:01:42] toad_: Hmmm.... I do in fact have two tuners, maybe it's the EIT-interfering-with-each-other thing ...
[14:03:03] toad_: Is it possible for me to have slave backends without explicitly configuring them as such? My frontend has a backend on it but AFAIK it doesn't do anything?
[14:08:54] toad_: ... and I did have "active EIT scan" enabled on both tuners ... perhaps that's it
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