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Tuesday, February 14th, 2017, 00:39 UTC
[00:39:00] Kwisher: my b/e does multiple things, a f/e can be something more lightweight
[00:39:32] Kwisher: why would a scheduled recording for monday be skipped to a later date even though i have enough tuners available?
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[03:02:54] Hydr0p0nX: RedPenguin: if you're just looking for a new f/e, raspberry pi works well enough, miibox works well for kodi, i'd think it'd do ok with a myth client... I'm just not sure about the state of myth for android.
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[03:22:13] RedPenguin: Hydr0p0nX: nah, looking to replace this old dual-core PC for b/e
[03:22:50] RedPenguin: It's technically recording well but it's really showing signs of age slugging and refusing to turn back on if power goes out
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[03:24:26] Kwisher: my f/e is a dual-core amd
[03:25:40] Hydr0p0nX: ah
[03:25:48] RedPenguin: This is an AMD Athlon X2 64 4000+ and at times running f/e is shuttering
[03:25:59] Hydr0p0nX: my f/e b/e combo is kinda rediculous
[03:27:31] Kwisher: f/e: CPU: Dual core AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
[03:27:32] Kwisher: clock speeds: max: 2800 MHz 1: 1000 MHz 2: 1000 MHz
[03:28:02] Hydr0p0nX: FX-6300 / 16GB RAM / 8TB storage / GeForce GTX 960
[03:28:51] Hydr0p0nX: but the CPU was on sale cheap, RAM was pulled of a box i retired, video card was recently upgraded to support 4k and it was the least expensive option
[03:29:04] RedPenguin: this PC doesn't seem too bad for f/e
[03:29:13] RedPenguin: just it really gets sluggish when the b/e is recording
[03:29:43] RedPenguin: I can swear it was better on 14.04 LTS but too late, already have 16.04
[03:29:57] Hydr0p0nX: oh, i haven't taken 16.04 yet
[03:31:26] RedPenguin: So far I seen one website offering a 2.4GHZ Quad Core/4GB RAM PC
[03:31:45] RedPenguin: that sounds like it should be decent with the b/e but gotta see if what the video is
[03:32:03] RedPenguin: I hate when it's AMD Video then usually AMD stops making the driver after a while
[03:32:21] Hydr0p0nX: for linux, it's all opensource now i thnk
[03:33:12] RedPenguin: I just remember former buddy having to stay on 12.04 or something due to Xorg not supporting his card anymore
[03:41:46] RedPenguin: then again as long as the b/e is ok, my Fire TV Stick with Kodi makes a great frontend even though scheduling isn't as nice as the of
[03:41:51] RedPenguin: official f/e
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[03:43:26] Kwisher: i prefer mythweb for scheduling
[03:44:59] RedPenguin: yea same here, I like how it's 100% mobile on basically any device you could think of as long as it has a browser
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[10:44:02] lapion: Has anyone had any degree of success getting analog framegrabbers to work with 0.28.1?
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[10:58:22] lapion: RedPenguin, what kind of tv-card do you use ?
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[11:08:20] stuarta: lapion: that's something most devs do not have, and therefore are unable to test
[11:18:16] lapion: I have several pcmcia cards that used to run fine under 0.27 and even now ( if using mplayer ) however under 0.28 all I get is greenscreen with occasional frames and audio.
[11:18:36] stuarta: are they v4l2 devices?
[11:19:00] lapion: philips saa7134 based
[11:19:38] stuarta: can you pastebin the output from `v4l2-ctl --all`
[11:25:01] lapion: http://pastebin.com/5ymKJjiJ
[11:30:26] stuarta: wonder if it's trying to use streaming mode when it shouldn't....
[11:30:35] stuarta: streaming mode support is broken
[11:34:06] stuarta: lapion: have you tried setting that card up as a v4l2 device?
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[11:38:22] stuarta: btw. a backend run with `--verbose channel` may help to narrow down the actual problem.
[11:38:39] stuarta: potentially, you may need to add your driver name to this line and rebuild https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . nel.cpp#L100
[11:43:01] lapion: stuarta yes to no avail
[11:43:28] lapion: will do the verbose channel thing later today
[11:45:43] lapion: stuarta, the problem is not card specific all my cards regardless of chipsets have the same problems since 0.28
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[11:48:01] stuarta: oh...
[11:48:22] stuarta: hmmm :(
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[12:35:30] RedPenguin: lapion: HDHR DUAL and a HVR-950Q
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[12:53:11] lapion: stuarta, pcmcia, usb and even pci frame grabbers
[12:57:57] lapion: RedPenguin, HVR-950Q or HVR-9500 ?
[12:59:04] lapion: RedPenguin, do you use the analog tv tuner or the clear QAM cable tv ?
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[13:13:49] RedPenguin: not the 9500, ClearQAM only
[13:15:29] lapion: Red penguin, that is digital reception and works for me as well, however here there are only 4 FTA channels
[13:15:43] lapion: the rest I have to grab from analog cable
[13:16:20] RedPenguin: they slowly got rid of the vast majority of analog cable here, except broadcast networks such as NBC, ABC
[13:16:47] RedPenguin: then again we have a rather old cable system they are finally starting to care about
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[14:20:45] lapion: RedPenguin, I have something like 25 channels in analog, those same channels are also available in encrypted form as digital
[14:22:47] RedPenguin: we have a strange system here
[14:22:55] RedPenguin: The stuff like Discovery, Nat Geo all encrypted
[14:23:03] RedPenguin: but ABC, NBC, MeTV, unencrypted
[14:23:18] RedPenguin: A weird FCC regulation but it works for me lol
[14:32:05] lapion: FCC regulation only applies to channels that have to be available unencoded and analog
[14:35:16] Kwisher: why would a scheduled recording for monday be skipped to a later date even though i have enough tuners available?
[14:50:48] lapion: Kwisher, higher priority tuner available in the other recording
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[14:53:58] Kwisher: I have 5 ATSC tuners, only 2 were being used in the time slot
[14:54:07] sphery: it was priorities
[14:54:22] sphery: perhaps channel priorities (if not input priorities)
[14:54:43] sphery: your priorities tell MythTV that you didn't want that first showing and that the later showing was better
[14:55:32] Kwisher: 8 tuners total, scheduling priority for the atsc tuners are numbered in order
[14:56:24] sphery: there's a difference between priority (which you shouldn't be using if you have 5 equivalent ATSC capture devices)
[14:56:27] sphery: and order
[14:56:42] sphery: order you do need to use (Live TV Order and Scheduling Order)
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[14:56:54] Kwisher: issue i am seeing is for FOX, sometimes they change the schedule and remove the saturday broadcast and i miss the show
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[14:57:15] sphery: the saturday broadcast being the later showing?
[14:57:23] Kwisher: so set all tuners to 0?
[14:57:29] Kwisher: correct
[14:57:29] sphery: 0 priority
[14:57:33] sphery: not 0 order
[14:57:43] sphery: 0 order would disable them
[14:57:46] Kwisher: ok, i'll give that a go
[14:57:58] Kwisher: right, 0 priority
[14:58:06] sphery: they're not currently all 0?
[15:02:40] Kwisher: no
[15:03:27] Kwisher: just to clarify, input priority should be 0 for all tuners?
[15:15:33] sphery: right
[15:16:31] Kwisher: thanks
[15:16:44] sphery: unless you have some reason that you want a specific tuner used whenever possible and would rather delay (and possibly miss) recordings if they could only be recorded from a different input the first airing
[15:16:48] sphery: :)
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[16:31:49] Kwisher: sphery: that solved my issue, had to change a lot of recording profiles to "this channel" to make sure ATSC tuners were used
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