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| [16:37:40] | koffel: | is there a work around for music choice channels on live tv.. they record fine just when you do live tv it has error opening live tv buffer |
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| [16:39:40] | stuarta: | odd |
| [16:40:08] | tlhiv_laptop: | how does one "block"/disable mythtv av media server (upnp) from broadcasting? |
| [16:43:00] | stuarta: | tlhiv_laptop: add '--noupnp' to the backend startup command |
| [16:43:10] | koffel: | stuarta they have a ticket but closed |
| [16:43:15] | koffel: | https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8096 |
| [16:43:17] | tlhiv_laptop: | stuarta: i'll try that |
| [16:43:26] | stuarta: | koffel: that's very very very old |
| [16:43:46] | koffel: | yeah |
| [16:44:21] | koffel: | i am using a hdhomerun primes |
| [16:44:56] | stuarta: | looks like maybe setting tuning timeout will help? |
| [16:45:30] | koffel: | i tried that it seems to only write 20k then error |
| [16:45:43] | tlhiv_laptop: | stuarta: perfect ... thanksw |
| [16:45:46] | tlhiv_laptop: | thanks |
| [16:52:17] | stuarta: | np |
| [16:55:56] | koffel: | FileRingBuf(/livetv/2450_20161221165527.ts): OpenFile(): File too small (0B). |
| [16:56:07] | koffel: | DTVRec[11]: Music Choice program detected |
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| [18:22:51] | ryangreh: | hi, can anyone tell me where are text widget template variables defined, like %TIME% and %DATE%? |
| [18:24:49] | ryangreh: | also, is there a way to easily modify an osd.xml to display the actual airing time of a recording while its playing? |
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| [19:25:37] | dekarl: | ryangreh: the actual time of transmission would be interesting. I'm not sure we have that in a way that can be easily accessed. |
| [19:25:37] | dekarl: | https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development only mentions some examples. But it comes from maps that differs per screen. "git grep SetTextFromMap" shows all the places |
| [19:28:03] | dekarl: | if you scroll upwards from "SetTextFromMap" you see what key/value pairs are put into the map for each screen/item |
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| [19:30:45] | ryangreh: | dekarl, thanks, I'm looking at the code now, I'll probably make a PR |
| [19:31:58] | ryangreh: | jeez is taking forever to download that repo :P |
| [19:32:42] | dekarl: | so much good things in there |
| [19:33:55] | dekarl: | we dont't record TDT/TOT, so you can't show what the station thinks what time it was. but you should be able to do start time + PCR or similar |
| [19:35:30] | ryangreh: | yep I was thinking in doing that, probably some tinkering in mythplayer.cpp and associates |
| [19:36:54] | ryangreh: | don't know exactly what this would take yet I've being looking at this code for 15 minutes |
| [19:45:53] | dekarl: | a simple "wall clock time back then = actual start time of the recording + playback position" might be all it takes. |
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| [19:57:00] | dekarl: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . er.cpp#L5037 |
| [20:05:37] | stuarta: | dekarl: that's where roger is heading with his eit rework |
| [20:05:49] | stuarta: | it lays the groundwork for decent support for RST |
| [20:05:59] | dekarl: | that's yet another thing :) |
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| [20:06:18] | dekarl: | he's looking at the running status of the events |
| [20:06:35] | stuarta: | which signals the "actual" start of the program |
| [20:06:52] | dekarl: | so much for the theory :) |
| [20:07:07] | stuarta: | too much theory :( |
| [20:08:03] | dekarl: | I can easily image a broadcast that converts audio/video into a service with completely unrelated guide data. The guide data being on time as planned weeks ago, but the actual transmission being unrelated |
| [20:08:25] | stuarta: | that is australian broadcasting for you |
| [20:08:48] | dekarl: | BBC/ARD/ZDF are likely to transmit high quality data. Hoping the network operators don't mess to much with it ... |
| [20:09:10] | stuarta: | i like your optimism |
| [20:10:14] | dekarl: | but then I see that no one gives a xyz about the data at night. I have 45 minutes end-late for some shows that are repeated at night with "a bit" of slack |
| [20:10:36] | dekarl: | at least they usually announce the correct show ;) |
| [20:11:32] | dekarl: | I envy the US users with their rigid schemes of 15 minute blocks and everything is more/less on time (unless its sports ;) |
| [20:18:00] | ryangreh: | dekarl, my use case is more aligned with what you are saying, I'm processing broadcasts in realtime (different project) and I'm using mythtv to record 24x7 so I can cross check results with the actual transmission, not really interested in EPGs |
| [20:19:41] | ryangreh: | but I need to play the recordings and know what time I am watching... records are 6 hour long so its a pain to calculate that in my head every time I see something I'm interested in |
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| [20:23:31] | ryangreh: | also I won't trust a transmission clock where I live... if the broadcaster screw up the time I wouldn't notice, ever. I'm more interested in the time I'm recording it and keeping the clock by myself with ntp |
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| [22:21:06] | grkblood13: | do you have to have 2 dedicated tuners for 2 clients or can you share the 1 between 2 clients? |
| [22:40:32] | stuarta: | it depends how you use mythtv |
| [22:40:50] | stuarta: | if your clients just watch what has been recorded, 1 tuner is fine |
| [22:41:29] | stuarta: | if you are trying to watch livetv on different channels at the same time, then 2 tuners are needed. |
| [22:42:12] | stuarta: | that said, you will probably end up with 2+ tuners anyway, as it makes it easier to record all the programs you want |
| [22:47:17] | grkblood13: | im not really interested in recording, i just want to get an OTA feed to various rooms in my house via rpi kodi boxes |
| [22:47:50] | stuarta: | then is mythtv the right thing for you? |
| [22:47:59] | stuarta: | we record, and watch later |
| [22:48:20] | stuarta: | for most users |
| [22:48:46] | grkblood13: | if i dont use something like mythtv ill have to run long cable lines to every room off of my antenna |
| [22:49:21] | grkblood13: | with mythtv i can have shorter centralized runs which will help a lot with video degradation |
| [22:49:31] | stuarta: | okay, fair enough |
| [22:50:49] | grkblood13: | are there any low budget multituner boxes out there other than silicondust products? |
| [22:51:18] | grkblood13: | if i can avoid splitting my feed into multiple tuners that would be my goto route |
| [22:51:42] | stuarta: | i'll let those in the US answer that as I have no idea for your area. |
| [22:51:51] | grkblood13: | rgr |
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| [23:08:43] | ryangreh: | grkblood13, can you use PCIe tuner cards? I'm using a very cheap multi tuner card from these guys that works fine http://www.tbsdtv.com/ |
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| [23:10:28] | ryangreh: | grkblood13, I have used mythtv for 2 days so I'm not the most reliable source, but as far as I can tell, these are the cheapest I could find and worked |
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| [23:12:55] | grkblood13: | ryangreh, which one of their cards did you get? they have a lot of stuff |
| [23:13:09] | ryangreh: | grkblood13, beware, you need to know your way around compiling kernel modules, documentation is really bad |
| [23:13:45] | ryangreh: | I don't know what OS are you going to use thou |
| [23:14:03] | ryangreh: | I'm not from US, so I its not going to be the same for, I was just giving you some options |
| [23:14:11] | ryangreh: | *for you |
| [23:14:29] | grkblood13: | yea, all their stuff seems to be DVB |
| [23:14:46] | grkblood13: | im running ubuntu server on my raid |
| [23:15:10] | grkblood13: | but if i go the PCI route ill have to set up another server |
| [23:15:23] | grkblood13: | i was hoping for somethung USB but i know i cant be picky |
| [23:17:34] | ryangreh: | there is one ATSC/8VSB/Clear QAM card, don't know if it works for you |
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