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[00:31:29] | Lexridge: | Hi everyone. I have 4 tuners now. Two 1600s and one 2250 dual. Is it possible to do one channel scan and integrate it will all four tuners? |
[00:33:28] | Lexridge: | Technically, they should all be able to pick up the same thing using ATSC/QAM only (no analog). |
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[01:04:48] | Hydr0p0nX: | you can have one channel line up associated with multiple tuners, at least for cable subscription, I'd assume the same would work for OTA |
[01:10:19] | Lexridge: | okay, Cool! Would it actually allow for recording multiple sources simultaneously. |
[01:12:09] | Lexridge: | I think the database would probably just pick the next available tuner, right? |
[01:16:39] | Lexridge: | It is stupid to maintain 4 different identical channel lineups, when one will do it. Thanks. |
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[01:41:28] | Hydr0p0nX: | yes |
[01:41:37] | Hydr0p0nX: | it picks the first available tuner |
[01:41:43] | Hydr0p0nX: | I do this with 7 attached to cable |
[01:41:57] | Hydr0p0nX: | don't think i've ever actually exceeded 3 or 4 in use tho |
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[03:01:13] | Bray90820: | Hydr0p0nX: I have just one address |
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[03:18:34] | Hydr0p0nX: | Bray90820: you can set the backend IP in mythtb-setup |
[03:19:11] | Bray90820: | Yes but the thing is the backend never stops so when I exit the IP never changed because it's still running |
[03:21:00] | Hydr0p0nX: | does 'sudo service stop mythtv-backend' work ? |
[03:22:31] | Bray90820: | No it does not work |
[03:22:32] | Bray90820: | stop: unrecognized service |
[03:23:58] | Hydr0p0nX: | had it backwards, 'service mythtv-backend stop' |
[03:24:05] | Hydr0p0nX: | probably need sudo |
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[05:01:39] | Bray90820: | Hydr0p0nX: if your still around how would I check to see if it's actually stopped after running the command |
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[18:30:33] | bill6502: | dekarl: tnx for the tip, the translations page is updated, and corrected re: the change from app->presentation |
[18:32:34] | dekarl: | bill6502: good idea with the online editor on github |
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[18:49:46] | Hydr0p0nX: | anyone have any experience with SYnology nas ? |
[18:57:55] | dekarl: | Hydr0p0nX: just ask your question, maybe someone knows |
[19:01:35] | Hydr0p0nX: | that is my question |
[19:01:41] | Hydr0p0nX: | I'm considering buying one |
[19:02:51] | Hydr0p0nX: | just looking for thoughts as it will eventually become a backup for a couple of windows and linux machines |
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[20:31:45] | Bray90820: | bill6502: Are you around? |
[20:38:04] | bill6502: | I am |
[20:42:38] | bill6502: | Bray90820: ^^^ |
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[20:46:38] | Bray90820: | Do you mind helping me finish my mythtv system |
[20:46:59] | Bray90820: | So far we discovered that it wasn't starting and stopping on it's own |
[20:47:54] | Bray90820: | I am also having a myth web issue that we can get to after we fix the other issues |
[20:48:18] | Bray90820: | bill6502: |
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[20:50:01] | bill6502: | I don't speak mythweb very much, suggest using WebFrontend though, if you're just doing the schedule/upcoming/recorded/program guide |
[20:50:55] | bill6502: | for stopping (and starting) you'll recall the suggestion to go into mythtv-setup and look for Backend start command (and the stop command on the same page) |
[20:51:13] | bill6502: | and replace them with the proper commands for Mythbuntu |
[20:51:36] | Bray90820: | bill6502: Actually it's an issue with disabling it |
[20:51:53] | Bray90820: | Disabling mytherb that is |
[20:52:31] | bill6502: | OK, do you want to shut apache2 off completely? |
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[20:56:38] | Bray90820: | Yes |
[20:56:42] | Bray90820: | I wanna shut it off |
[20:56:43] | Bray90820: | bill6502: |
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[21:00:54] | Bray90820: | bill6502: Should the start and stop commands in the backend be "mythtv-backend stop" and "mythtv backend start" |
[21:01:08] | bill6502: | Bray90820: you could type: sudo service stop apache2 and then edit /etc/init.d/apache2 |
[21:01:37] | bill6502: | Bray90820: after the #! line (the 1st line) just put: exit 0 |
[21:01:51] | bill6502: | then if you ever want to turn it on again, remove the exit 0 |
[21:02:48] | bill6502: | or, if you want to completely remove it, there's likely an apt-get remove apache2 command, but I'll let you look for that |
[21:03:15] | Bray90820: | sudo service stop apache2 gives me "stop: unrecognized service" |
[21:04:53] | bill6502: | Bray90820: no, mythtv-backend stop (and start) aren't commands. try the command. did you find that the earlier suggestion (a few days ago) didn't work? as I recall, it was: |
[21:05:47] | Bray90820: | Sorry were are to many things going on at once lets work on apache first |
[21:05:51] | bill6502: | sudo service mythtv-backend stop (and start) or maybe I said sudo systemctl stop mythtv-backend |
[21:05:56] | Bray90820: | I got it stopped |
[21:06:11] | bill6502: | apache2 you mean |
[21:06:16] | Bray90820: | Yes |
[21:06:42] | bill6502: | ok, that's good for now, but on your next boot/restart, it will start running again |
[21:07:31] | Bray90820: | exit 0 was put on line 2 of the config file |
[21:08:39] | bill6502: | you're in good shape, and if you ever want to turn it on, just remove the exit (probably lots of ways to disable it, but this works) |
[21:08:57] | Bray90820: | Alright |
[21:09:04] | Bray90820: | Next issue the starting and stopping |
[21:10:47] | bill6502: | Bray90820: from the command line, what happens when you type: sudo service mythtv-backend stop (assuming you're not using the backend now) |
[21:11:01] | Bray90820: | The backend stops |
[21:11:19] | Bray90820: | And when I do "sudo service mythtv-backend start" it starts the backend |
[21:11:29] | Bray90820: | Or at least that's what it did yesterday |
[21:11:50] | bill6502: | Bray90820: actually, type sudo -k and try the start and stop again |
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[21:13:31] | Bray90820: | It correctly starts and stops the backend |
[21:14:55] | bill6502: | OK, now apply those commands in mythtv-setup, as i recall, they're about 8 pages in |
[21:15:37] | Bray90820: | "service mythtv-backend stop" and "service mythtv-backend start" ? |
[21:15:43] | bill6502: | Bray90820: that's in the General section |
[21:15:47] | Bray90820: | Put those in the backend? |
[21:16:56] | bill6502: | Bray90820: no: sudo service mythtv-backend stop and yes, run mythtv-setup on your backend |
[21:17:31] | Bray90820: | If I were to put sudo in the backend wouldn't it require a password? |
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[21:18:18] | bill6502: | that's what you just tested, from your own user, did it require a password there? |
[21:20:29] | bill6502: | Bray90820: pastebin the output of this please: sudo cat /etc/sudoers.d/mythtv |
[21:22:49] | Bray90820: | cat: /etc/sudoers.d/mythtv: No such file or directory |
[21:23:10] | Bray90820: | And yes I had to enter a password withe I tarted and stopped the backend |
[21:23:35] | Bray90820: | *Started |
[21:25:07] | bill6502: | Bray90820: sudo ls -l /etc/sudoers.d |
[21:25:57] | Bray90820: | total 4 |
[21:25:58] | Bray90820: | -r--r----- 1 root root 958 Mar 30 14:57 README |
[21:26:24] | bill6502: | OK, time out, that's just how I do it. |
[21:26:44] | Bray90820: | What happened? |
[21:27:52] | bill6502: | tgm4883: is there a proper way for Mythbuntu users to start/stop their backends? (as other than using a sudoers.d entry) |
[21:28:18] | Bray90820: | bill6502: I am not using mythbuntu |
[21:28:27] | tgm4883: | bill6502: our recommended way is 'sudo service mythtv-backend restart' |
[21:28:33] | tgm4883: | or stop and start |
[21:28:53] | bill6502: | tgm4883: thanks, and it's in sudoers? |
[21:28:54] | Bray90820: | I attempted to use the mythbuntu control center in ubuntu 16.04 but got errors so I gave up |
[21:29:06] | tgm4883: | they would need to be able to sudo, yes |
[21:29:14] | bill6502: | thanks! |
[21:29:31] | bill6502: | Bray90820: OK, what distribution are you running? |
[21:29:50] | Bray90820: | ubuntu 16.04 x64 |
[21:29:56] | bill6502: | OK |
[21:30:20] | bill6502: | let me test something before pasting it |
[21:30:23] | Bray90820: | But I did restore my database from a previous mythbuntu backup |
[21:30:57] | Bray90820: | I attempted to restore it with mythbuntu control center and that's where I ran into the errors |
[21:31:09] | Bray90820: | So i gave up and just used the scripts |
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[21:38:53] | bill6502: | Bray90820: 1st, open a new terminal window on your backend and type sudo -i |
[21:39:19] | bill6502: | leave that window open until the rest of this is done! |
[21:39:32] | Bray90820: | So because su? |
[21:40:34] | bill6502: | because this is a potentially dangerous procedure and has the ability to prevent the use of the sudo command |
[21:40:46] | bill6502: | make sure you have a # prompt in that window |
[21:41:12] | Bray90820: | Yes I have that |
[21:41:16] | bill6502: | now, copy this: http://pastebin.com/raw/DrauYfG1 |
[21:41:35] | Bray90820: | Run it in a terminal? |
[21:41:38] | bill6502: | in some other window (NOT THE ONE THAT HAS THE # PROMPT |
[21:41:44] | bill6502: | yes, in a terminal |
[21:41:54] | Bray90820: | So open a new terminal window without su? |
[21:42:12] | bill6502: | yes, now you have at least 2 windows open |
[21:42:18] | Bray90820: | Yes |
[21:42:24] | bill6502: | terminal sessions to be specific |
[21:42:29] | Bray90820: | Yes |
[21:43:03] | Bray90820: | So what exactly do I do with that paste |
[21:44:05] | bill6502: | in the normal user's window, type the following: |
[21:44:07] | bill6502: | sudo visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/mythtv |
[21:44:56] | bill6502: | you'll be in an editor, probably nano and you should paste the info there |
[21:45:58] | Bray90820: | Basically I am just adding those start and stop commands to my sudoers file? |
[21:46:42] | bill6502: | yes, so that user mythtv and you can run those 2 service commands without a password |
[21:47:01] | Bray90820: | Yes |
[21:47:39] | bill6502: | you did notice the putYourLoginNameHere (actually it the pastebin says "but...") |
[21:47:49] | Bray90820: | I actually added kind a dangerous command into a sudoers file I can ssh root without a password assuming they have my key |
[21:48:23] | Bray90820: | But that's beside the point |
[21:49:35] | bill6502: | agreed (you should never change /etc/sudoers, because a package manager can release a new version and destroy your changes) |
[21:50:08] | bill6502: | have you changed the butYourLoginNameHere line to your login id, e.g. Bray90820? |
[21:50:57] | bill6502: | or whatever you login is on your backend |
[21:52:25] | Bray90820: | Uh I am not aware of any login |
[21:53:12] | bill6502: | Bray90820: from ANOTHER terminal window, type this: echo $USER |
[21:53:15] | bill6502: | and use that name |
[21:53:45] | Bray90820: | Aaaah so just my ubuntu username |
[21:54:18] | Bray90820: | should I keep the comma \ |
[21:54:23] | Bray90820: | *Comma |
[21:54:56] | bill6502: | Bray90820: yes, yourLogin, mythtv |
[21:55:05] | Bray90820: | Ok |
[21:55:18] | Bray90820: | So write out and exit? |
[21:55:36] | bill6502: | yes |
[21:55:55] | Bray90820: | Uh |
[21:56:04] | bill6502: | Bray90820: visudo will issue a warning if the file isn't correct |
[21:56:23] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw/6uGWBAhx |
[21:57:37] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw/XQJNU3Zw |
[21:57:41] | bill6502: | Bray90820: the pastebin only has 11 lines, so you've added things that must be removed |
[21:57:52] | Bray90820: | I don't know |
[21:58:01] | bill6502: | Bray90820: the last word in the file on the last line is: MYTHTV_COMMANDS |
[21:58:27] | Bray90820: | Yes |
[21:58:38] | Bray90820: | The last paste I sent you is a copy of what is in the file |
[21:59:13] | bill6502: | ah, i see your 2nd paste and it has additional blank lines it it, look at what I pasted and delete them |
[21:59:30] | Bray90820: | That's odd idk how that happened |
[22:00:50] | Bray90820: | >>> /etc/sudoers.d/mythtv: syntax error near line 8 <<< |
[22:01:22] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw/gt8SC5dz |
[22:03:46] | bill6502: | Bray90820: my mistake add a comma after service start mythtv-backend (and before the trailing backslash) |
[22:05:01] | Bray90820: | Still giving me an error with line 8 |
[22:05:02] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw/ke2gczVK |
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[22:08:44] | bill6502: | Bray90820: remove the trailing backslash on the service stop mythtv-backend.service line |
[22:09:42] | Bray90820: | Still line 8 error |
[22:11:15] | Bray90820: | I put the slash back in |
[22:12:00] | Bray90820: | Should it be "service start mythtv-backend.service" |
[22:12:13] | bill6502: | Bray90820: no, the backslash after the last command in the list must be removed |
[22:12:47] | bill6502: | Bray90820: no, we're not using systemctl commands, so no .service |
[22:13:07] | bill6502: | the paste works for me, lets see your most recent copy |
[22:13:17] | bill6502: | (with the 2 corrections) |
[22:13:22] | Bray90820: | Hang on |
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[22:15:08] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw/gbKK1Hjy |
[22:17:17] | bill6502: | Bray90820: the trailing .service must be removed (man, did I screw up the initial paste) |
[22:18:44] | Bray90820: | Error on line 8 |
[22:18:57] | Bray90820: | http://pastebin.com/raw/1SfNycVT |
[22:21:27] | Bray90820: | Hey I need to leave pretty soon |
[22:23:33] | bill6502: | Bray90820: me too, just abort the edit (it looks fine to me and when I tried your paste with my visudo, it works) there may be some non-printing character there |
[22:24:31] | bill6502: | Bray90820: if you're using name, I believe you want control-X and if visudo asks what you want to do, type help, choose the option to abort, don't write the file |
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[22:25:31] | bill6502: | Bray90820: from your window running as root, type cd /etc/sudoers.d and ls -l the only file there will be README and that's OK |
[22:26:24] | Bray90820: | mythtv and radome are there |
[22:26:35] | Bray90820: | should I rm mythtv |
[22:26:38] | bill6502: | yes |
[22:27:10] | bill6502: | Bray90820: now from the non-root window, type sudo -k |
[22:27:11] | Bray90820: | \Ok now all that is there is readme |
[22:27:33] | bill6502: | Bray90820: then type: sudo touch /tmp/test |
[22:27:34] | Bray90820: | Ok sudo -k done |
[22:28:02] | bill6502: | you should be prompted for a password and the file /tmp/test should be there |
[22:28:45] | Bray90820: | Yes |
[22:29:11] | bill6502: | if you try again, look at whatis in /etc/sudoers (where you mentioned adding somthing) maybe that's getting in the way |
[22:29:17] | bill6502: | but too late for today |
[22:30:03] | Bray90820: | Uh /etc/sudoers does not exist |
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[22:30:32] | Bray90820: | Wait never mind |
[22:30:39] | Bray90820: | Don't listen to me |
[22:31:29] | Bray90820: | And no I didn't add anything on this system it was on my backup system |
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[22:42:33] | Bray90820: | Anyone else wanna show me there shudders file? |
[22:42:37] | Bray90820: | sudoers |
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[22:50:10] | bill6502: | Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/raw/y1LPqXfc |
[22:51:26] | bill6502: | Bray90820: the full path was missing (allowing anyone to create a program named 'service' and do bad things with it |
[22:52:39] | Bray90820: | And it now works |
[22:52:49] | Bray90820: | And that is where I am out for now gotta go |
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