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Lexridge:

Hi everyone. I have 4 tuners now. Two 1600s and one 2250 dual. Is it possible to do one channel scan and integrate it will all four tuners?

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Lexridge:

Technically, they should all be able to pick up the same thing using ATSC/QAM only (no analog).

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Hydr0p0nX:

you can have one channel line up associated with multiple tuners, at least for cable subscription, I'd assume the same would work for OTA

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Lexridge:

okay, Cool! Would it actually allow for recording multiple sources simultaneously.

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Lexridge:

I think the database would probably just pick the next available tuner, right?

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Lexridge:

It is stupid to maintain 4 different identical channel lineups, when one will do it. Thanks.

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Hydr0p0nX:

yes

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Hydr0p0nX:

it picks the first available tuner

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Hydr0p0nX:

I do this with 7 attached to cable

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Hydr0p0nX:

don't think i've ever actually exceeded 3 or 4 in use tho

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Bray90820:

Hydr0p0nX: I have just one address

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Hydr0p0nX:

Bray90820: you can set the backend IP in mythtb-setup

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Bray90820:

Yes but the thing is the backend never stops so when I exit the IP never changed because it's still running

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Hydr0p0nX:

does 'sudo service stop mythtv-backend' work ?

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Bray90820:

No it does not work

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Bray90820:

stop: unrecognized service

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Hydr0p0nX:

had it backwards, 'service mythtv-backend stop'

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Hydr0p0nX:

probably need sudo

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Bray90820:

Hydr0p0nX: if your still around how would I check to see if it's actually stopped after running the command

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bill6502:

dekarl: tnx for the tip, the translations page is updated, and corrected re: the change from app->presentation

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dekarl:

bill6502: good idea with the online editor on github

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Hydr0p0nX:

anyone have any experience with SYnology nas ?

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dekarl:

Hydr0p0nX: just ask your question, maybe someone knows

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Hydr0p0nX:

that is my question

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Hydr0p0nX:

I'm considering buying one

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Hydr0p0nX:

just looking for thoughts as it will eventually become a backup for a couple of windows and linux machines

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Bray90820:

bill6502: Are you around?

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bill6502:

I am

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bill6502:

Bray90820: ^^^

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Bray90820:

Do you mind helping me finish my mythtv system

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Bray90820:

So far we discovered that it wasn't starting and stopping on it's own

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Bray90820:

I am also having a myth web issue that we can get to after we fix the other issues

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Bray90820:

bill6502:

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bill6502:

I don't speak mythweb very much, suggest using WebFrontend though, if you're just doing the schedule/upcoming/recorded/program guide

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bill6502:

for stopping (and starting) you'll recall the suggestion to go into mythtv-setup and look for Backend start command (and the stop command on the same page)

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bill6502:

and replace them with the proper commands for Mythbuntu

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Bray90820:

bill6502: Actually it's an issue with disabling it

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Bray90820:

Disabling mytherb that is

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bill6502:

OK, do you want to shut apache2 off completely?

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Bray90820:

Yes

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Bray90820:

I wanna shut it off

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Bray90820:

bill6502:

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Bray90820:

bill6502: Should the start and stop commands in the backend be "mythtv-backend stop" and "mythtv backend start"

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bill6502:

Bray90820: you could type: sudo service stop apache2 and then edit /etc/init.d/apache2

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bill6502:

Bray90820: after the #! line (the 1st line) just put: exit 0

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bill6502:

then if you ever want to turn it on again, remove the exit 0

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bill6502:

or, if you want to completely remove it, there's likely an apt-get remove apache2 command, but I'll let you look for that

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Bray90820:

sudo service stop apache2 gives me "stop: unrecognized service"

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bill6502:

Bray90820: no, mythtv-backend stop (and start) aren't commands. try the command. did you find that the earlier suggestion (a few days ago) didn't work? as I recall, it was:

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Bray90820:

Sorry were are to many things going on at once lets work on apache first

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bill6502:

sudo service mythtv-backend stop (and start) or maybe I said sudo systemctl stop mythtv-backend

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Bray90820:

I got it stopped

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bill6502:

apache2 you mean

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Bray90820:

Yes

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bill6502:

ok, that's good for now, but on your next boot/restart, it will start running again

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Bray90820:

exit 0 was put on line 2 of the config file

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bill6502:

you're in good shape, and if you ever want to turn it on, just remove the exit (probably lots of ways to disable it, but this works)

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Bray90820:

Alright

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Bray90820:

Next issue the starting and stopping

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bill6502:

Bray90820: from the command line, what happens when you type: sudo service mythtv-backend stop (assuming you're not using the backend now)

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Bray90820:

The backend stops

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Bray90820:

And when I do "sudo service mythtv-backend start" it starts the backend

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Bray90820:

Or at least that's what it did yesterday

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bill6502:

Bray90820: actually, type sudo -k and try the start and stop again

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Bray90820:

It correctly starts and stops the backend

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bill6502:

OK, now apply those commands in mythtv-setup, as i recall, they're about 8 pages in

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Bray90820:

"service mythtv-backend stop" and "service mythtv-backend start" ?

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bill6502:

Bray90820: that's in the General section

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Bray90820:

Put those in the backend?

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bill6502:

Bray90820: no: sudo service mythtv-backend stop and yes, run mythtv-setup on your backend

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Bray90820:

If I were to put sudo in the backend wouldn't it require a password?

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bill6502:

that's what you just tested, from your own user, did it require a password there?

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bill6502:

Bray90820: pastebin the output of this please: sudo cat /etc/sudoers.d/mythtv

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Bray90820:

cat: /etc/sudoers.d/mythtv: No such file or directory

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Bray90820:

And yes I had to enter a password withe I tarted and stopped the backend

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Bray90820:

*Started

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bill6502:

Bray90820: sudo ls -l /etc/sudoers.d

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Bray90820:

total 4

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Bray90820:

-r--r----- 1 root root 958 Mar 30 14:57 README

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bill6502:

OK, time out, that's just how I do it.

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Bray90820:

What happened?

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bill6502:

tgm4883: is there a proper way for Mythbuntu users to start/stop their backends? (as other than using a sudoers.d entry)

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Bray90820:

bill6502: I am not using mythbuntu

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tgm4883:

bill6502: our recommended way is 'sudo service mythtv-backend restart'

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tgm4883:

or stop and start

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bill6502:

tgm4883: thanks, and it's in sudoers?

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Bray90820:

I attempted to use the mythbuntu control center in ubuntu 16.04 but got errors so I gave up

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tgm4883:

they would need to be able to sudo, yes

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bill6502:

thanks!

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bill6502:

Bray90820: OK, what distribution are you running?

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Bray90820:

ubuntu 16.04 x64

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bill6502:

OK

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bill6502:

let me test something before pasting it

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Bray90820:

But I did restore my database from a previous mythbuntu backup

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Bray90820:

I attempted to restore it with mythbuntu control center and that's where I ran into the errors

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Bray90820:

So i gave up and just used the scripts

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bill6502:

Bray90820: 1st, open a new terminal window on your backend and type sudo -i

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bill6502:

leave that window open until the rest of this is done!

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Bray90820:

So because su?

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bill6502:

because this is a potentially dangerous procedure and has the ability to prevent the use of the sudo command

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bill6502:

make sure you have a # prompt in that window

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Bray90820:

Yes I have that

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bill6502:

now, copy this: http://pastebin.com/raw/DrauYfG1

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Bray90820:

Run it in a terminal?

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bill6502:

in some other window (NOT THE ONE THAT HAS THE # PROMPT

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bill6502:

yes, in a terminal

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Bray90820:

So open a new terminal window without su?

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bill6502:

yes, now you have at least 2 windows open

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Bray90820:

Yes

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bill6502:

terminal sessions to be specific

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Bray90820:

Yes

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Bray90820:

So what exactly do I do with that paste

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bill6502:

in the normal user's window, type the following:

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bill6502:

sudo visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/mythtv

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bill6502:

you'll be in an editor, probably nano and you should paste the info there

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Bray90820:

Basically I am just adding those start and stop commands to my sudoers file?

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bill6502:

yes, so that user mythtv and you can run those 2 service commands without a password

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Bray90820:

Yes

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bill6502:

you did notice the putYourLoginNameHere (actually it the pastebin says "but...")

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Bray90820:

I actually added kind a dangerous command into a sudoers file I can ssh root without a password assuming they have my key

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Bray90820:

But that's beside the point

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bill6502:

agreed (you should never change /etc/sudoers, because a package manager can release a new version and destroy your changes)

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bill6502:

have you changed the butYourLoginNameHere line to your login id, e.g. Bray90820?

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bill6502:

or whatever you login is on your backend

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Bray90820:

Uh I am not aware of any login

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bill6502:

Bray90820: from ANOTHER terminal window, type this: echo $USER

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bill6502:

and use that name

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Bray90820:

Aaaah so just my ubuntu username

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Bray90820:

should I keep the comma \

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Bray90820:

*Comma

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bill6502:

Bray90820: yes, yourLogin, mythtv

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Bray90820:

Ok

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Bray90820:

So write out and exit?

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bill6502:

yes

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Bray90820:

Uh

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bill6502:

Bray90820: visudo will issue a warning if the file isn't correct

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Bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw/6uGWBAhx

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Bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw/XQJNU3Zw

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bill6502:

Bray90820: the pastebin only has 11 lines, so you've added things that must be removed

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Bray90820:

I don't know

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bill6502:

Bray90820: the last word in the file on the last line is: MYTHTV_COMMANDS

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Bray90820:

Yes

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Bray90820:

The last paste I sent you is a copy of what is in the file

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bill6502:

ah, i see your 2nd paste and it has additional blank lines it it, look at what I pasted and delete them

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Bray90820:

That's odd idk how that happened

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Bray90820:

>>> /etc/sudoers.d/mythtv: syntax error near line 8 <<<

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Bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw/gt8SC5dz

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bill6502:

Bray90820: my mistake add a comma after service start mythtv-backend (and before the trailing backslash)

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Bray90820:

Still giving me an error with line 8

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Bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw/ke2gczVK

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bill6502:

Bray90820: remove the trailing backslash on the service stop mythtv-backend.service line

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Bray90820:

Still line 8 error

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Bray90820:

I put the slash back in

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Bray90820:

Should it be "service start mythtv-backend.service"

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bill6502:

Bray90820: no, the backslash after the last command in the list must be removed

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bill6502:

Bray90820: no, we're not using systemctl commands, so no .service

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bill6502:

the paste works for me, lets see your most recent copy

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bill6502:

(with the 2 corrections)

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Bray90820:

Hang on

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Bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw/gbKK1Hjy

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bill6502:

Bray90820: the trailing .service must be removed (man, did I screw up the initial paste)

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Bray90820:

Error on line 8

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Bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/raw/1SfNycVT

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Bray90820:

Hey I need to leave pretty soon

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bill6502:

Bray90820: me too, just abort the edit (it looks fine to me and when I tried your paste with my visudo, it works) there may be some non-printing character there

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bill6502:

Bray90820: if you're using name, I believe you want control-X and if visudo asks what you want to do, type help, choose the option to abort, don't write the file

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bill6502:

Bray90820: from your window running as root, type cd /etc/sudoers.d and ls -l the only file there will be README and that's OK

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Bray90820:

mythtv and radome are there

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Bray90820:

should I rm mythtv

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bill6502:

yes

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bill6502:

Bray90820: now from the non-root window, type sudo -k

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Bray90820:

\Ok now all that is there is readme

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bill6502:

Bray90820: then type: sudo touch /tmp/test

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Bray90820:

Ok sudo -k done

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bill6502:

you should be prompted for a password and the file /tmp/test should be there

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Bray90820:

Yes

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bill6502:

if you try again, look at whatis in /etc/sudoers (where you mentioned adding somthing) maybe that's getting in the way

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bill6502:

but too late for today

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Bray90820:

Uh /etc/sudoers does not exist

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Bray90820:

Wait never mind

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Bray90820:

Don't listen to me

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Bray90820:

And no I didn't add anything on this system it was on my backup system

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Bray90820:

Anyone else wanna show me there shudders file?

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Bray90820:

sudoers

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bill6502:

Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/raw/y1LPqXfc

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bill6502:

Bray90820: the full path was missing (allowing anyone to create a program named 'service' and do bad things with it

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Bray90820:

And it now works

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Bray90820:

And that is where I am out for now gotta go

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