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Current users (125):

adante, aloril, amessina, andreaz, AndyCap, arrrghhh, autofly, Azelphur, benc_, bill6502, blahdodo, BLZbubba, Bray90820_, brfransen, camjac251, Captain_Murdoch, ChanServ, Chicago, clever, croppa, crw1, Cubber, cybrNaut, DaRock, Dave123, dlking, dmfrey, doppo, enyc, Esteban, EvilGuru, Floppe, freelock, G, ghoti, gpd, gregbert, GreyFoxx, grumpydevil, hachi, Heliwr, Hoochster, HRH_H_Crab, Hydr0p0nX, infinite, infojunky, J-e-f-f-A, jab416171, jams, Jay2k1, jbrett, jmcentee, jm|laptop, jnylen, joki, jpabq, jst_, jya, k-man, kc, kjj_, koffel, lexAngeles, libsci, lilCodie, louisdk, mad_enz, marlo_, maseck, materdaddy, McGuyver, membiblio, mengoshmink, MissionCritical, Moscherkobold, Muzer, MythLogBot, natanojl, nephyrin, niska, nutron, pigeon, pmmd, pppingme, pyrodex, quicksilver, RagingMind, Rokko, rOOb, saintdev, Seeker, seld, ServerSage, Shadow__X, shubes, sid3windr, simcop2387, SleePy, sphery, SpootDev, squidly, StevenR, strayPuppy, stuarta, stuartm, sulx2, superm1, sutula, tgm4883, TheSilverSentine, Toast_, toeb, tonsofpcs, tris, troyt, ubIx_, vincent42, wagnerrp, Warped, XDS2010, xris, zoktar, _abbenormal, _charly_, _stowa
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[09:25:43] stuartm: Roklobotomy: there's no setup needed – which version of MythTV are you using and when you say VNC, do you mean VLC?
[09:25:53] stuartm: VLC's upnp is completely broken
[09:27:04] stuartm: it will actually DOS MythTV by looking up the list of video metadata one film at a time, on a large enough collection that's a massive amount of unnecessary traffic
[09:27:52] stuartm: well behaved UPnP clients fetch metadata in batches – 20–50 files in each request
[09:28:14] stuartm: the VLC upnp support was written by someone who knows nothing about upnp/dlna
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[09:46:25] Roklobotomy: oh yeah VLC typo
[09:47:49] Roklobotomy: anyway, playing asx stream on vlc on an ipad is perfectl cromulent.
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[09:59:08] SteveGoodey: cromulent, that's a good one. Haven't seen that before.
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[10:46:50] Roklobotomy: yeah thanks Simpsons
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[13:27:58] jarnos_: I am trying to configure https use of mythweb from internet. I have Dynamic DNS configured in router. Do I need certificate for the main domain only?
[13:28:30] jarnos_: Or do I need www. domain for mythweb?
[13:33:14] jarnos_: What is good authentication method with SSL-access?
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[13:50:11] jarnos_: Is this the best source? https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Securing_MythWeb "Outdated: Inconsistent and confusing information"
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[14:19:58] mad_enz: jarnos_: the method I use the access mythweb remotely is with VPN
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[14:20:47] jarnos_: mad_enz, oh I no nothing about VPN. But isn't is easer to use WWW?
[14:21:14] mad_enz: jarnos_: don't know. I don't know much about www ;)
[14:21:59] jarnos_: mad_enz, mythweb is used in www.
[14:22:04] mad_enz: I just couldn't find a sufficiently secure authentication method for myth without writing a lot of code
[14:23:01] mad_enz: openvpn is simple.
[14:23:17] mad_enz: jarnos_: yes it does. but the default setup does not use authentication
[14:25:33] mad_enz: with VPN, i have full access to my network and the myth boxes
[14:27:07] jarnos_: mad_enz, yes, there seem to be many things to take into account when configuring authentication https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Restricting_Acces . . . ess_Controls
[14:28:23] jarnos_: mad_enz, isn't password authentication good combined with HTTPS connection?
[14:30:11] mad_enz: jarnos_: yes. those combination will offer some level of security
[14:30:27] jarnos_: mad_enz, some?
[14:30:49] mad_enz: i am not comfortable opening mythweb to the net since it was not written with security in mind
[14:30:55] mad_enz: yes, some
[14:32:03] mad_enz: from the wiki, it does not show how to lock or disable access after mulitple failed attempt
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[14:58:40] jarnos_: mad_enz, maybe not. Is there a wiki for configuring openvpn for the task?
[15:00:22] mad_enz: jarnos_: openvpn is not specific to myth. it is a method the extend your local network to anywhere
[15:01:21] mad_enz: https://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/doc . . . n/howto.html
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[15:02:20] mad_enz: since your local network travels with you, you can access any of your devices as if you were home
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[17:55:20] koffel: hey aLL
[17:56:06] koffel: i get this alot
[17:56:11] koffel: mythfrontend[7920]: W Decoder ringbuffer.cpp:1524 (ReadPriv) RingBuf(myth://mythrouter/2885_20160220174016.ts): ReadPriv(..32768, normal) — waited 5837 ms for avail(116748) > count(32768)
[17:57:41] [R]: what does "alot" mean
[17:57:50] [R]: and what happens as a result
[18:00:17] koffel: every time i watch live tv
[18:00:34] koffel: it locks up and stalls
[18:01:30] koffel: http://pastebin.com/WgxXecmW
[18:01:43] koffel: i first though it was my hdd
[18:01:51] koffel: so i put a ssd in
[18:02:25] [R]: yeah, livetvv is stupid
[18:02:32] [R]: stop being a slave to the tv networks
[18:02:57] [R]: could be a network issue
[18:03:22] koffel: not a network issue
[18:03:35] koffel: all brand new parts
[18:03:47] [R]: what does the age of the "parts" have to do with anythign
[18:04:35] koffel: i mean i check and replace all network parts and tested them
[18:05:27] [R]: wired or wireless
[18:05:46] koffel: all hard wired
[18:05:53] [R]: weird
[18:08:25] koffel: i thought so too
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[20:26:57] Bray90820: Has anyone had any issues running mythtv on the new LTS of ubuntu
[20:29:20] Bray90820: Oh never mind it's not out until april
[20:29:25] Bray90820: Idk why I thought it was out now
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[22:11:08] camjac251: id 0.27 ok to use over 0.28? Will I be missing out on any key features?
[22:12:36] [R]: the wiki has a list of features for each version
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[22:19:01] koffel: hey [r] do u have a guide to compile .28 on ubuntu 14.04
[22:19:03] koffel: ?
[22:19:12] [R]: why not just use the packages?
[22:22:32] camjac251: is there an easy way in operating the control panel
[22:22:42] camjac251: when I tried the vnc and x11 options, they were very iffy
[22:22:52] camjac251: no mouse control, laggy, etc
[22:23:48] [R]: what?
[22:25:57] camjac251: on ubuntu
[22:28:33] koffel: i have to mod hdhomerun stream
[22:29:12] camjac251: is there an option to record a direct stream with mythtv? no conversion or transcode
[22:29:20] camjac251: having the direct copy quality
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[22:30:42] bill6502: koffel: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Build_from_Source
[22:32:10] [R]: camjac251: if you are recording from a digital source, thats what myth does
[22:32:28] camjac251: ok
[22:33:04] camjac251: is mythtv easier to manage on windows?
[22:34:52] [R]: huh?
[22:35:09] koffel: camj yes it is
[22:38:15] camjac251: what version do you guys run
[22:38:18] camjac251: 0.28 or 0.27
[22:40:53] koffel: .28
[22:42:08] camjac251: is it worth it over 0.27?
[22:43:30] koffel: nope
[22:45:11] camjac251: have you used mythbuntu
[22:45:24] camjac251: I cant find a guide on installing mythtv normally on ubuntu
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[22:50:25] koffel: just use ppa
[23:01:21] bill6502: camjac251: 0.27 was released in Sept. 2013 and 0.28 just entered beta. It's worth is up to you. See: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.28. I run 0.28-pre to answer your question ^^^.
[23:02:59] bill6502: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Installing_MythTV_on_Ubuntu
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