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[02:44:56] Russ: so I know mythtv has the feature where you can record a certain amount before and after a scheduled showing
[02:45:10] Russ: since stations usually move stuff around a little
[02:45:12] Russ: which is great
[02:45:29] Russ: but many shows that I record are back to back so one part of one showing is in the order recording
[02:45:49] Russ: is there any way to get mythtv to duplicate the information or to get the two recordings to conflict so they will use different tuners?
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[03:10:17] cybrNaut: kodi users: how do you get the "mythtv pvr client" plugin?
[03:10:47] cybrNaut: the "mythbox" plugin is crap.. not configurable
[03:11:58] cybrNaut: i need the plugin that was written by Christian Fetzer.. that's apparently the proper one
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[04:09:37] knightr: cybrNaut, I meant try the #kodi channel...
[04:10:44] knightr: they are the guys/gals responsible for that plugin...
[04:17:06] Hydr0p0nX: Russ, mine seem to work that way
[04:17:19] Hydr0p0nX: how many tuners do you have ?
[04:17:22] Russ: 3
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[04:21:43] Hydr0p0nX: how many live shows are you watching when the recording is scheduled?
[04:23:28] cybrNaut: knightr: i realize that's what you meant.. however that was my first stop
[04:23:46] cybrNaut: anyway, i eventually worked it out
[04:23:48] Russ: it's just recording 1 show, then another
[04:24:14] cybrNaut: some crappy PPA had to be installed, followed by some unintuitive steps
[04:24:17] Russ: so one recording starts at say, 4pm, finishes at 4:30pm, and the next one starts on the same station at 4:30pm
[04:24:24] knightr: cybrNaut, chances are anyone here uses the real frontend, not kodi...
[04:24:33] Russ: but mythtv is configured to start recording 2 minutes early and finish recording 2 minutes after
[04:25:10] Hydr0p0nX: what version are you using ?
[04:26:08] Russ: v0.27.5
[04:26:16] knightr: anyway I am happy you figured it out...
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[04:43:33] Hydr0p0nX: i haven't upgrade to .5 yet, maybe something changed with it, but .4 seems to work that way
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[04:46:34] Russ: never worked for me
[04:46:47] Russ: always recorded back to back shows on the same channel on the same tuner
[04:46:59] Russ: been years
[04:48:18] Hydr0p0nX: maybe i've just never noticed
[04:48:31] Russ: modern family on abc has been really bad
[04:48:47] Russ: they always run without commercials between, and the tend to float the start time
[04:50:27] Russ: at least mythtv has the option to schedule a rerecord
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[04:52:59] Russ: btw, this has allowed me to free up hundreds of GB https://gist.github.com/russdill/c1129db9338f77bf849d
[04:53:23] Russ: transcoding to h264 and reducing res to 480p, gives about 1/10th the size (500MB/hour)
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[05:13:32] Hydr0p0nX: yea, but it's 480p
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[06:05:08] Bray90820: If a channel changes it's name but keeps the same channel number will it still record my previously setup recording rules?
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[06:53:10] Russ: Hydr0p0nX, sadly only so much fits on 4tb, sacrifices must be made. It'd be easy to choose 720p
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[10:53:39] jarnos: I have this on /etc/apache2/sites-available/mythweb.conf :
[10:53:50] jarnos: <LocationMatch .*/pl/stream/[0–9]+/[0–9]+>
[10:53:58] jarnos: Allow from all
[10:54:05] jarnos: </LocationMatch>
[10:55:48] jarnos: That is uncommented. But still, when I try to play stream using an ASX file that I got using MythWeb, it asks for authentication.
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[18:26:59] pyrodex: stuarta I can host it :)
[18:27:08] pyrodex: mythtv.cnn.com :)
[18:30:56] stuarta: it's back
[18:31:15] stuarta: i could host it too ;-) already host the dev version
[18:38:17] pyrodex: lol
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[19:48:14] Bray90820: If a channel changes it's name but keeps the same channel number will it still record my previously setup recording rules?
[19:48:41] Bray90820: or season pass which is what my tiro calls it
[19:48:48] Bray90820: TiVo
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[19:51:10] pyrodex: Do you have you recording rule by channel name or number?
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[20:23:03] jarnos: I tried editing a recording rule during recording to lengthen recording time, but it did not work.
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[20:37:46] sphery: jarnos / jarnos_ : in mythfrontend or in MythWeb?
[20:38:11] sphery: It should work properly if done correctly in mythfrontend. In MythWeb, it may or may not work.
[20:39:06] sphery: Bray90820: Only "this channel" rules are affected by changes to channels, and only when their call sign (which is user-configurable) is changed.
[20:39:33] sphery: Since call sign isn't updated by MythTV, your "this channel" rules will only break if you change the channel's call sign.
[20:39:44] jarnos_: sphery, I mean the ASX files that I get from using MythWeb.
[20:40:07] sphery: and you can unbreak the rules by changign the call sign back--or you can delete the rule and re-create it with the new channel's call sign
[20:40:08] Bray90820: So event ABC family Changed it's to Freeform all my recording rules will still record?
[20:40:42] sphery: Bray90820: yes, as long as you don't change the call sign for the channel that was ABC Family in your MythTV database
[20:41:07] sphery: Bray90820: that said, generally--for this exact reason--you should not ever use "this channel" rules, but should always use "any channel" rules
[20:42:12] sphery: jarnos_: so you changed the rule using MythWeb? If so, it's quite possible that functionality is broken--because it has to know exactly how the scheduler wants such changes to be specified and MythWeb hasn't had any real development (let alone developers) for quite some time
[20:42:26] Bray90820: Alright
[20:42:26] sphery: meaning it may well be doing things wrong due to more-recent changes to MythTV code
[20:42:34] Bray90820: sphery: Thanks
[20:42:46] Bray90820: Another question
[20:42:56] Bray90820: What if the channel number changes but the name stays the same
[20:43:05] sphery: jarnos_: this is why MythWeb is being replaced with a web-based application directly in mythbackend (no need for Apache, etc. once it's complete)
[20:43:54] jarnos_: sphery, oh, sorry, I mixed things. I edited the recording rule in mythfrontend.
[20:44:21] jarnos_: sphery, but an authentication rule in mythweb.conf
[20:44:34] sphery: Bray90820: channel number is only used for a) display purposes (telling you, in a short format, which channel was used for something) and b) to allow you to change to that channel directly in Live TV, rather than browsing to it
[20:44:48] jarnos_: sphery, which I wrote earlier on today.
[20:44:51] Bray90820: sphery: Thanks
[20:44:55] sphery: Bray90820: you can change channel number at any time--and regardless of what your provider is using--without affecting MythTV
[20:45:01] jarnos_: sphery, ..about.
[20:45:31] sphery: Bray90820: note, however, that Frequency ID (in like screen 2 of mythtv-setup's Channel Editor) often must contain a provider-specified channel number
[20:46:00] Bray90820: Alright thanks
[20:46:50] sphery: so, while you could rename your cable company's channel 1003 to 3, the same number used by the station in their over-the-air broadcast, you may have to keep the frequency ID set to 1003 (i.e. if you're using a cable company STB or some other external tuner to tune the channel)
[20:47:14] sphery: jarnos_: not sure what happened, then
[20:47:23] sphery: in theory, extending it should have worked
[20:48:26] sphery: that said, IIRC, there are a lot of ways that you can make mistakes during the process of extending it
[20:48:39] sphery: I don't even remember how to do so--I haven't done that in a long time
[20:48:56] sphery: that is, if we're talking about extending a recording in progress
[20:49:26] sphery: if you mean you created a rule and set an extra time at end of recording on that rule, that should definitely have worked--it does for me
[20:51:04] sphery: jarnos_: and if that's what you did (record over time in recording rule) and your program got cut off, it could well be something like http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/594511#594511
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[20:59:14] jarnos_: sphery, oh, maybe I'll do more testing.
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