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[03:31:17] | camjac251: | hello |
[03:31:39] | Hydr0p0nX: | heya |
[03:31:50] | camjac251: | is there a lossless recording setting for mythtv |
[03:33:07] | [R]: | what is your source for vidoe? |
[03:34:22] | camjac251: | not sure what you mean |
[03:34:27] | camjac251: | its fios, cablecard |
[03:34:36] | [R]: | then its just dumping whatever is on the cable |
[03:34:38] | [R]: | its not encoding anything |
[03:34:54] | camjac251: | i had some recording from amc on there |
[03:34:58] | camjac251: | and the quality was terrible |
[03:35:03] | [R]: | blame your provider |
[03:35:24] | Hydr0p0nX: | yea, you're getting "lossless" in relation to what you are being sent |
[03:35:37] | camjac251: | but the quality when viewing it live was fine |
[03:35:53] | [R]: | mtyhtv doesnt reencode digital |
[03:36:09] | [R]: | maybe its your computers fault playing it back |
[03:36:35] | Hydr0p0nX: | yea, what resolution is your myth box running ? and what video card? and is vdpau enabled ? |
[03:37:31] | camjac251: | its linux, no resolution, no video card, and not sure on the last one |
[03:37:48] | camjac251: | no video output plugged in |
[03:37:55] | [R]: | then how are you playing it? magially? |
[03:37:57] | [R]: | magically* |
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[03:43:35] | camjac251: | physical file |
[03:43:48] | camjac251: | playing it on my local network |
[03:43:49] | camjac251: | from vlc |
[03:43:53] | camjac251: | on my computer |
[03:45:53] | Hydr0p0nX: | streaming the recording from myth to your computer, what resolution is your computer running ? |
[03:47:25] | camjac251: | 1080p |
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[03:50:03] | camjac251: | http://i.imgur.com/8kXv98i.png |
[03:50:08] | camjac251: | theres a screenshot :/ |
[03:50:11] | camjac251: | after its been deinterlaced |
[03:50:31] | camjac251: | deinterlaced live by vlc, not transcoded |
[03:51:14] | Hydr0p0nX: | Tools -> Codec Information |
[03:52:05] | Hydr0p0nX: | make sure it's being received as 1080p , what's it look like without deinterlacing ? |
[03:53:56] | camjac251: | mythtv-setup is so buggy for me |
[03:54:03] | camjac251: | no keyboard control on x11 |
[03:54:06] | camjac251: | or vnc |
[03:54:13] | camjac251: | this is so frustrating |
[03:55:57] | Hydr0p0nX: | not sure why you have such a problem with it, works fine for me vnc or not |
[03:56:31] | tgm4883: | Hydr0p0nX: some users.... |
[03:57:07] | Hydr0p0nX: | honestly, don't think i've touched it in 3 or 4 months |
[03:57:41] | Hydr0p0nX: | actually... it was october because i renewed my schedules-direct sub with the wrong account |
[03:58:00] | tgm4883: | I just had to touch mine...... because I upgraded to 0.28 |
[03:59:02] | tgm4883: | camjac251: you sure you didn't record it from the SD station? |
[03:59:03] | Hydr0p0nX: | i need to upgrade to 0.27.5 |
[03:59:33] | camjac251: | im just upset, i had fargo recording |
[03:59:39] | camjac251: | but then when entering the setup, it cancelled it |
[03:59:46] | camjac251: | and now its giving me 404 errors |
[03:59:55] | camjac251: | for the recording |
[04:00:19] | Hydr0p0nX: | yea, mythtv-setup prompts you to stop the backend before continuing, even have to enter root/sudo password |
[04:00:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | stopping the backend stops recordings |
[04:00:30] | tgm4883: | camjac251: The screenshot you posted is a terrible example. First, it appears it's some sort of close up fast action type of thing. Give us a few better screenshots (maybe a shot of some people in a room) |
[04:01:06] | tgm4883: | Second, The text in the bottom corner looks fine. Maybe a little large, which is why I wonder if you recorded the wrong channel |
[04:01:52] | tgm4883: | camjac251: However, one thing that it appears the others here might have missed, is that you said you were watching this via VLC, is that correct? |
[04:01:52] | camjac251: | i also noticed some ghosting |
[04:01:55] | camjac251: | when playing it back |
[04:02:21] | camjac251: | i was watching it in vlc since i couldnt watch it locally |
[04:02:29] | camjac251: | and downloading the file over my lan would take too long |
[04:02:44] | camjac251: | so streaming it in its original form over a symlink through nginx is what i did |
[04:02:47] | tgm4883: | camjac251: ok, and when you pulled it up in VLC, what was the filename? |
[04:03:04] | camjac251: | 1731_20151206134600.ts |
[04:03:12] | tgm4883: | camjac251: ok. Did you ever look up the codec info in VLC? |
[04:03:17] | camjac251: | yea |
[04:03:33] | tgm4883: | camjac251: and....? |
[04:04:37] | camjac251: | give me 3 minutes to download it and run it through mediainfo |
[04:04:49] | camjac251: | vlc had shown mpeg |
[04:05:32] | tgm4883: | camjac251: you have mythweb? |
[04:05:56] | camjac251: | im running 0.28 |
[04:05:58] | camjac251: | webfrontend |
[04:06:07] | camjac251: | might just downgrade because this is all frustratring |
[04:06:13] | camjac251: | or switch to hdhomerun dvr |
[04:06:53] | tgm4883: | camjac251: FFS, if you're going to keep "threatening" to go to another DVR, then just do it |
[04:07:02] | tgm4883: | I couldn't give a crap less |
[04:07:16] | tgm4883: | You are on 0.28, so what. You still have mythweb available |
[04:07:50] | camjac251: | im sorry |
[04:07:52] | tgm4883: | I don't know what issue's you're having (maybe you should make a list and we can work through them) |
[04:08:14] | camjac251: | i'll try another recording right now |
[04:08:35] | tgm4883: | camjac251: what tuner do you have? |
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[04:11:11] | camjac251: | hdhomerun prime |
[04:11:47] | tgm4883: | camjac251: why do you have a .ts file? |
[04:11:59] | camjac251: | i'm not sure |
[04:12:43] | tgm4883: | camjac251: I wonder if it's a 0.28 thing |
[04:12:51] | tgm4883: | I've got those now too, only since I upgraded it seems |
[04:12:53] | Hydr0p0nX: | .ts is a telesync extension |
[04:13:06] | Hydr0p0nX: | at least, historically |
[04:13:12] | camjac251: | http://pastebin.com/j6MCtZvW |
[04:14:11] | tgm4883: | camjac251: can you get a screenshot from that video? |
[04:14:21] | camjac251: | sure |
[04:14:22] | camjac251: | from vlc? |
[04:14:24] | camjac251: | or.. |
[04:14:31] | tgm4883: | Hydr0p0nX: the backend writes .mpg files from the prime in 0.27 |
[04:14:36] | Hydr0p0nX: | yea |
[04:14:37] | tgm4883: | camjac251: vlc should be fine |
[04:14:38] | Hydr0p0nX: | I just looked |
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[04:14:51] | Hydr0p0nX: | .asx to stream from mythweb and .mpg to download |
[04:15:05] | Hydr0p0nX: | i have a homerun + ceton |
[04:15:34] | Hydr0p0nX: | homerun was bought to prove an issue wasn't mine and sits unused for the most part at the moment |
[04:15:45] | camjac251: | http://i.imgur.com/u6X6X5a.jpg |
[04:16:32] | tgm4883: | camjac251: do you have mythweb installed? |
[04:16:40] | camjac251: | it comes standard |
[04:16:43] | camjac251: | to 0.28 |
[04:16:52] | camjac251: | its replaced by webfrontend |
[04:17:13] | tgm4883: | camjac251: what's the URL you use to get to the web frontend? |
[04:17:43] | camjac251: | localip:6544 |
[04:19:12] | tgm4883: | camjac251: ok, so this doesn't have what I'm looking for. |
[04:19:21] | tgm4883: | camjac251: can you install mythweb? |
[04:19:35] | camjac251: | i've said |
[04:19:42] | camjac251: | it replaces it |
[04:19:44] | camjac251: | in 0.28 |
[04:19:54] | camjac251: | so mythweb to my knowledge wouldnt be compatible with 0.28 |
[04:19:57] | camjac251: | as its older |
[04:20:11] | tgm4883: | camjac251: Ok, you obviously know more about MythTV than I do |
[04:20:25] | tgm4883: | Hydr0p0nX: your turn |
[04:20:36] | camjac251: | Im sorry, im just salty |
[04:20:56] | tgm4883: | camjac251: fine, I'll continue |
[04:21:15] | tgm4883: | camjac251: install mythweb |
[04:21:17] | Hydr0p0nX: | tgm4883, I'm mostly useless :) |
[04:21:21] | tgm4883: | it's not incompatible |
[04:21:24] | camjac251: | from where? |
[04:21:40] | tgm4883: | camjac251: uh, apt? |
[04:21:43] | Hydr0p0nX: | sudo apt-get install mythweb? |
[04:21:46] | tgm4883: | camjac251: 'apt-get install mythweb' |
[04:21:50] | camjac251: | im on ubuntu, its pretty old |
[04:21:52] | camjac251: | the repos |
[04:21:55] | camjac251: | for mythtv |
[04:22:08] | tgm4883: | camjac251: no it's not. You are on 0.28, which means you are using the PPA |
[04:22:38] | camjac251: | https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/ubuntu/0.28 mythweb isnt there though |
[04:22:41] | camjac251: | only mythtv |
[04:23:09] | camjac251: | installing it though |
[04:23:15] | camjac251: | mythweb |
[04:23:28] | tgm4883: | Hydr0p0nX: permission to treat the witness as hostile |
[04:24:19] | ** Hydr0p0nX exits quietly ** | |
[04:25:23] | camjac251: | Encoder 5 [ HDHOMERUN : 13214773–0 ] is local on TvServer and is recording 'Fargo' on FXHD. This recording is scheduled to end at 11:22 PM. |
[04:25:25] | camjac251: | im on mythweb |
[04:26:14] | tgm4883: | camjac251: and that is where you got the screenshot that you just sent? |
[04:26:28] | camjac251: | what? |
[04:26:35] | camjac251: | no it was from an amc show |
[04:26:45] | camjac251: | i dont know how it was recorded |
[04:26:50] | camjac251: | but it was there |
[04:26:51] | tgm4883: | I know |
[04:28:02] | camjac251: | you know hwat, i think fx is copy once :/ |
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[04:31:15] | Hydr0p0nX: | how long have you had that homerun ? |
[04:31:52] | camjac251: | a few days |
[04:32:06] | Hydr0p0nX: | there have been some cable card standard changes in the last 12–18months that may be messing with you if you haven't updated it |
[04:32:37] | camjac251: | i think for standard channels, FX is the only one thats copy once |
[04:32:50] | camjac251: | while everything is copy free |
[04:33:16] | Hydr0p0nX: | namely, sending a copy flag for copy freely is optional, up until march-may timeframe, the standard required end user devices to interpret no copy flag set as copy once |
[04:33:57] | Hydr0p0nX: | it was randomly screwing up my ability to record channels |
[04:34:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | didn't impact video quality, just whether or not i could watch/record a channel at all |
[04:35:49] | Hydr0p0nX: | and tgm4883/wagnerrp/stuart[a|m], if I haven't said so before, thanks for all the help with my initial screw ups everything has been pretty stable since i got it working |
[04:36:20] | tgm4883: | Hydr0p0nX: I'm trying to verify it's recording an HD channel and not SD, but seems I've got to dig for this info as it's not readily available |
[04:37:15] | tgm4883: | camjac251: it might be easier to tell it to record from the AMC channel right now and then grab a screenshot |
[04:37:31] | tgm4883: | camjac251: you don't have the actual mythtv frontend anywhere? |
[04:38:14] | camjac251: | nop |
[04:39:43] | tgm4883: | camjac251 how are you watching it live? |
[04:39:57] | camjac251: | not currently at the moment |
[04:39:59] | camjac251: | i'd use kodi |
[04:40:27] | camjac251: | i thought you meant specifically the mythtv frontend |
[04:40:31] | camjac251: | not a frontend |
[04:40:42] | tgm4883: | camjac251: and how do you have kodi getting it? Is it getting it from mythtv, or directly from the hdhomerun prime? |
[04:44:56] | camjac251: | theres a mythtv addon |
[04:45:01] | camjac251: | for kodi |
[04:45:35] | tgm4883: | camjac251: correct there is. |
[04:46:07] | tgm4883: | camjac251: you can also stream directly from the hdhomerun to kodi |
[04:46:10] | tgm4883: | which is why I asked |
[04:47:29] | tgm4883: | camjac251: so when you are watching it "live", you're still using the mythtv plugin for kodi? |
[04:52:44] | tgm4883: | camjac251: do you not need my assistance anymore? |
[04:55:22] | camjac251: | I think I'll wait a little while |
[04:55:40] | ** tgm4883 shrugs ** | |
[04:55:49] | camjac251: | sorry for being rude |
[04:56:06] | tgm4883: | camjac251: I'm just trying to figure out how you're watching the live stream in kodi |
[04:56:14] | camjac251: | i was frustrated at it not going the way that I had hoped |
[04:56:22] | camjac251: | what do you mean? |
[04:56:37] | tgm4883: | camjac251: if you're watching it via the kodi mythtv plugin, then mythtv is recording that as well |
[04:56:39] | camjac251: | That recording I had, I was watching it through vlc |
[04:56:57] | camjac251: | Watching what, im not doing anything with kodi at the moment |
[04:57:13] | camjac251: | I was using the frontend to set fargo to record |
[04:57:14] | tgm4883: | camjac251: you said that the quality was good when watching it live |
[04:57:22] | camjac251: | but since its copy once, guess i cant do that :/ |
[04:57:44] | camjac251: | yes it was, over kodi on a 1080p screen on the raspi2 with osmc |
[04:58:22] | tgm4883: | camjac251: ok, so heres the deal |
[04:59:04] | tgm4883: | camjac251: When you were watching it live, you were watching an inprogress recording being done by mythtv |
[04:59:22] | tgm4883: | camjac251: and when you watched the recording in vlc, that was obviously a recording done by mythtv |
[04:59:35] | tgm4883: | camjac251: so the same process is used to record both |
[05:00:02] | tgm4883: | So then lets take a look at your tuner |
[05:00:11] | tgm4883: | camjac251: you've got an HDHomerun prime |
[05:00:43] | camjac251: | yup |
[05:00:44] | tgm4883: | we've already disclosed that both ways you were watching it were from mythtv, so unless you have another tuner then they both came from the prime |
[05:01:13] | tgm4883: | Now the prime is a digital recording, and like all digital recorders it tunes the digital stream |
[05:02:04] | tgm4883: | well it being a digital stream, it's coming to your house from FIOS as either an mpeg2-ts or possibly mpeg4 (although we've already determined it's mpeg2 based on the codec info you posted) |
[05:02:35] | tgm4883: | so all mythtv is doing here is writing already compressed data to the disk. It does NOT alter this data in any way from what it's receiving from the HDHomerun |
[05:03:44] | tgm4883: | So now that we know that both ways of recording it were the same, and we know the same tuner was used for both (same being the hdhomerun prime. while it has 3 tuners they are identical for our purposes here), we need to look at what the differences are that could account for the quality difference |
[05:04:24] | tgm4883: | DIfferent programs to watch the shows, different shows compared, different channels compared, different scenes in the same show compared |
[05:05:26] | tgm4883: | camjac251: if I were you, and I had the hardware available to do it, I would set it up so I could watch 3 things at teh same time (all being the exact same content |
[05:06:31] | tgm4883: | One streamed directly from the hdhomerun to some device. One recorded and watched in something (such as VLC) |
[05:06:36] | tgm4883: | minimally you'd need that |
[05:06:53] | tgm4883: | you could do a third with an actual mythtv frontend |
[05:07:38] | tgm4883: | but in any case, there is nothing that mythtv is doing regarding the quality of the stream. All it does is simply write the data to the disk that it gets from the hdhomerun |
[05:08:06] | tgm4883: | camjac251: Once you're able to do some of those test and get some data, we can make a gameplan to figure out how to fix it |
[05:08:31] | tgm4883: | as it could still be a number of things, although only one of them that I'm thinking could be mythtv related |
[05:09:14] | camjac251: | I wanted to watch tv on roku devices, nexus player, and a raspi |
[05:10:11] | tgm4883: | camjac251: ok, I understand that is what you want to do. But you're having issues with that, so the next logical step would be to take a step back and try to figure out where the issue is |
[05:11:22] | tgm4883: | IDK how the roku or nexus stream the content, so there might possibly be a second way that mythtv is causing the quality issue, but since you said you were using kodi I'm not sure if it's relevant |
[05:11:24] | tgm4883: | brb |
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[06:04:11] | TSS: | Use plex to stream your recordings |
[06:05:43] | tgm4883: | TSS: I don't believe adding in another non-mythtv option will help right now |
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[06:31:20] | camjac251: | i use plex |
[06:31:40] | camjac251: | but i want to be able to watch livetv on roku |
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[19:52:32] | kusznir: | Hi all: I applied updates to my LinHES system a couple days ago, and since then, my HD HomeRun ATSC tuner has only recorded unwatchable, badly pixilated recordings. I just verified with VLC on my workstation that the HDHomeRun is putting out a clean signal. |
[19:52:47] | kusznir: | Any suggestions? This is supposidly 0.27.5+fixes backend version. |
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[19:57:14] | kusznir: | I am seeing this in my backend logs when I go to use the tuner: E TVRecEvent recorders/recorderbase.cpp:206 (SetStrOption) RecBase[1](192.168.4.13–0): SetStrOption(...recordingtype): Option not in profile. |
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